March 2010 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] Call for testing: on-demand package installation
by Lubos Lunak 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

Hello, in OBS in home:llunak:ksuseinstall there are packages branched from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop that have one experimental feature added: When a needed package is not installed, the user is offered its installation. Currently there is support for debuginfo packages, applications that can open a specific file type if none is installed and multimedia codecs for Amarok. The plan is that this feature makes it into 11.3, so please test and provide feedback. The things I'm especially interested in: - the UI and the workflow could quite possibly be improved (currently it uses Yast modules to save me a lot of work, and it's also done this way because of a certain catch mentioned below). So, imagine you are Joe User the Clueless who's just installed 11.3 and think about how this would or would not work and how it could be improved. The catch here is that this is not only a technical problem but also a legal :(. This can quite easily help with the problem of installing packages that cannot be shipped as a part of openSUSE because of various stupid patent stuff etc. The problem is that we should not even encourage too much usage of such packages. Don't ask what that means exactly, because I don't know, and probably not even lawyers know for sure, but something like "MP3 support is missing, press Yes to install it from Packman" is simply very unlikely to make it past our lawyers. I think the guideline could be that the user has to know it's an extra and that it's not part of openSUSE, and thus has to make at least some effort, not just confirm a dialog. There is a reason why adding community repositories in Yast fetches a list of those from a 3rd party site and knows nothing else than the URL of that list. Yes, this all sucks. - there could be more places where this could help a lot, either by saving the default installation size by not installing packages that most users wouldn't use, or by handling something where such on-demand installation would be helpful to many users. From 11.2 the Nepomuk/Strigi config module comes to mind - we had it disabled by default and some parts were not installed, so enabling it required not only flipping the checkbox but also installing something. I am not going to patch every single place in KDE where an optional package could be possibly missing, but it shouldn't be difficult to handle some mores places where it makes a difference, if you know such cases. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Request to have sysinfo fixed for openSUSE 11.3
by Roman Bysh 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

Hi all, I am checking to see if sysinfo will be fixed by the time openSUSE 11.3 is released in July 2010. An update to KDE Platform Version 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2) "release 231" was done on openSUSE 11.2 today. It is still broken. The Driver field shows "Unknown" rather than the Nvidia driver version number. OpenSUSE Milestone 4 sysinfo is also broken. Any thoughts? Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] System load viewer not working..
by Daniele 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Hi all, I just upgraded my 11.2 to kde 4.4.1, so far so good.. Only the plasmoid System load viewer does not work, It always shows cpu usage at 100%. In the panel it shows 100% in both the bar and in the tooltip. On the desktop, the cpu bar does not appear but the tooltip still shows 100%. Known bug ? It worths a bugreport ? It's an opensuse or upstream issue ? Thanks. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 1 March, 17:00 UTC
by Will Stephenson 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

*** Europe is on summer time now! That means the meeting is probably an hour later than normal for Europeans! The following meeting, 15 April, will be at 1600UTC/1800CEST *** The next openSUSE KDE Team Meeting will take place tomorrow, 2010-04-01 at 1700 UTC The date and time in your timezone: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=1&month=4&year=201… For discussion this week: try MeetBot again (Meetings/About) OBS Repo policies - e.g. (when) should betas be allowed in Community/Factory/Backports etc. Default configuration of nepomuk/strigi, dolphin search toolbar in 11.3 Getting KDE meetings in news.o.o calendar Status reports Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=1&month=4&year=201… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join in and participate! Will Stephenson -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] factory missing pulseaudio
by Marc Benstein 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

I'm using KKFD and pulseaudio has been missing from the sound system configuration since 4.4.0. Now, my intel (whatever) fails back to " device." on startup. I seem to be failing back to something because everything is working fine after that. I'm using the xine backend. What happened to pulseaudio in the sound system configuration? Pulseaudio is the only why I can get multiple applications to play sounds at the same time. Thanks -- Marc Benstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Fix for bug, but only for KDE SC 4.5 releasing
by Rastislav Krupanský 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi. Fix for the upstream bug 219709 (also reported in bugzilla - 591655) is ready for KDE SC 4.5 releasing. Afaik, openSUSE 11.3 shouldn´t include KDE SC 4.5. So, is any way how could you include this fix for stable release 4.4.x also in final 11.3? It´s nonsense when the fix already exist, but only for 4.5 releasing and won´t be backported. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] synaptiks crash in systemsettings
by Thomas Leineweber 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hello, when the synaptiks package from KKFD is installed in my 11.2 system, and I start the touchpad configuration within the system-settings, the synaptiks-daemon crashes. This is shown in bko 226005 and http://bitbucket.org/lunar/synaptiks/issue/32 . The last link says that this is fixed within the KDE SVN. I think I have identified the corresponding revision. It is rev 1097582. In order to verify this, I have created a backport of this patch in my obs-project home:leineweb:branches:KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop I have no crashes anymore with this patch, but I'd like someone else to verify this patch before I create a submitreq to fix this in KKFD. Best regards, Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-kernel] Kernel 2.6.34-rc2 hangs on one of three systems
by Johannes Obermayr 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

> Status update: > > I installed recent kernel-vanilla yesterday first time and it has runned without any problems for over 24 hours now. > > Only openSUSE patched kernel flavors have problems ... > > Johannes Sorry wrong list ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-kernel] Kernel 2.6.34-rc2 hangs on one of three systems
by Johannes Obermayr 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Status update: I installed recent kernel-vanilla yesterday first time and it has runned without any problems for over 24 hours now. Only openSUSE patched kernel flavors have problems ... Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] mic boost
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Hello Mates, in older Versions of kmix i had an option "mic boost +20db". In the actual 3.6 i don't find it. Must i enable this manually? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kmix patch
by Mariusz Fik 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi, Kmix looks really ugly in KDE 4.3 series. A patch fixing it was committed into 4.4 tree. Since KDE 4.3.5 is in update repo, is there any chance to apply this patch to our KDE 4.3.5? http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2328/ -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik, openSUSE Community Member

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop: publishing disabled
by Dirk Müller 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi, I've disabled publishing to finish upload of KDE 4.4.2 tarballs (to be released mid next-week). Greetings, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Community Discussion - KDE Edition
by Andrew Wafaa 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Aloha oh wondrous KDE Community, Some may have noticed my blog posts trying to engage the wider openSUSE Community in discussion on ways of improving how we, the openSUSE Community, work and play. The shotgun approach of hitting the whole Community seems to be going a bit slow, so I thought I would try a different approach :-) So basically I'm looking to see what you the KDE Community feel is missing, an issue, could be improved etc. Also crucially how do you think any of the issues can be resolved. As I mentioned in my blog posts, I am looking for a discussion and not a flame war. I am not in any power to resolve any issue that are present, but I do feel that we already have the tools at hand to fix most that we encounter. I will however put my noisy voice to as much use as possible and try and help out where I can. I do feel that sometimes we just shrug our shoulders and carry on regardless, and think "why bother we aren't going to get any help". If we don't make a sound case for why & how we need help there is no chance we will. So this is the first step in getting that help - defining what and how. Please help me and yourselves work out how best to improve life within openSUSE. If people would rather not make their concerns etc public, please feel free to contact me directly. What I do ask is that we please try and keep things on topic, calm and pleasant. Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. PGP: 0x3A36312F openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: openoffice status bar buttons invisible
by John King 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Sven Burmeister wrote: > Am Freitag, 26. März 2010 10:16:12 schrieb John King: >> kde 4.3.5 on opensuse 11.2, openoffice 3.2.0 from opensuse repository >> >> Following a recent update (though I can't specify exactly when) I've >> noticed that the buttons on the openoffice status bar at the bottom are >> invisible. The status bar itself shows but only the shape of the buttons >> is visible. Clicking on the blank buttons will call up the appropriate >> menu, and sometimes brings out the button text. Also changing the kde >> theme will sometimes reveal some, but not all of the buttons, though in >> some cases will hide their outlines completely. Similarly, changing the >> openoffice icon size and style in the options menu sometimes reveals the >> button text or hides the buttons. >> >> This problem doesn't seem to exist on a machine running gnome, so I >> assume it's kde related. >> >> Can anyone confirm this behaviour? > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561170 > > Please add you comment to the bug. Maybe that changes something regarding > the OO mantainers at novell. > > Sven Comment added to bug report. After reading the bug report, I tried two experiments, making changes to ~/.profile 1 adding export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde4 to the profile doesn't make any difference, the button text is invisible. but 2 adding export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde to the profile reveals all the buttons on the status bar. John johnmking_uk(a)yahoo.co.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] New phonon always expects pulseaudio (with workaround)
by Tejas Guruswamy 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

On 26/03/10 07:34, Per Osbäck wrote: > I'm not seeing this on my machine though I run factory with libpulse0 0.9.21 > but without pulseaudio. > > rpm -q libpulse0 > > does that give you 0.9.19 or nothing? > These are the problematic package versions I had > rpm -qa | grep pulse libpulse0-0.9.21-1.2.1.x86_64 libxine1-pulse-1.1.18.1-1.pm.37.2.x86_64 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.21-1.2.1.x86_64 > rpm -qa | grep phonon libphonon4-4.4.0-39.1.x86_64 phonon-backend-xine-4.4.0-41.1.x86_64 phonon-4.4.0-39.1.x86_64 from KKFD > There is also a reworked patch for phonon that you could try out if you time: > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio:/phonon/… > > try without the _export_ > With your phonon-4.4.0-pulse-connection-rejig.patch, phonon works with and without PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE. Looks like that's solved it. Thanks! I'll send this back to the list so people are aware. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openoffice status bar buttons invisible
by John King 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

kde 4.3.5 on opensuse 11.2, openoffice 3.2.0 from opensuse repository Following a recent update (though I can't specify exactly when) I've noticed that the buttons on the openoffice status bar at the bottom are invisible. The status bar itself shows but only the shape of the buttons is visible. Clicking on the blank buttons will call up the appropriate menu, and sometimes brings out the button text. Also changing the kde theme will sometimes reveal some, but not all of the buttons, though in some cases will hide their outlines completely. Similarly, changing the openoffice icon size and style in the options menu sometimes reveals the button text or hides the buttons. This problem doesn't seem to exist on a machine running gnome, so I assume it's kde related. Can anyone confirm this behaviour? John johnmking_uk(a)yahoo.co.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] New phonon always expects pulseaudio (with workaround)
by Tejas Guruswamy 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi all, After the latest updates from 11.2 / KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop, I had some problems with phonon ... I don't use pulseaudio or even have it installed on this machine. But after the latest KDE4.4 update applications trying to use phonon were hanging, apparently on detecting PulseAudio support. Even the control module didn't work. What seems to be happening is that now phonon is compiled with pulseaudio, it seems to *always expect* pulseaudio to be present, or hangs (no crash, just an infinite block). Which sucks for those of us who aren't using pulseaudio. Thankfully there is a workaround (after tracking down the problem and analysing the relevant sources) which is to set the following export PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1 For now this works, but is the behaviour we want as default? If so, can we integrate this workaround somehow into the relevant packages? (e.g. in setup-pulseaudio) Forgive me if I'm just being dense and this was all obvious, I didn't see any mention of this in any of the recent threads discussing KDE4.4 / pulseaudio. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Adding KDE meetings also to Meetings/Archives
by Lubos Lunak 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Hello, it's been brought to my attention that there is a wiki page http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Archive where all meeting minutes/transcripts are archived. I will update http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/Managing to say that the minutes and transcript should be also added to that page, but it would be nice to have also all already past KDE meetings there (there are currently only few past meetings). Would somebody update the Meetings/Archive page to link to all KDE meetings? I'd assume it's just a bit of scripting on the wiki page source or a little of manual copy&pasting. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Konqueror does not want to open kmz files
by Richard Bos 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Hi, I've a problem with konqueror, the app does not automatically use Google Earth when I click on a link that refers to a kmz file. The details of my problem: Let's start what is working: - if a file on disk is a .kmz file konqueror opens the file with Google Earth. (this is e.g. a kmz file that was downloaded from the internet and stored in /tmp) - If I right click on a link on a webpage refering to a .kmz file, the context menu contains a reference to Google Earth. When using that reference GE opens the link. What's not working: - Clicking on a link refering to a kmz file. E.g. on this page: http://www.kmzlinks.com/?offset=1&group= Click Now konqueror offers me: 'save as', 'open with' and cancel. Or when I right click on the link, the context menu offers me to open the link with e.g. kate, kwrite, OO.org writer, and other editors, but no GE :( Why is that? I've *kmz files associated with Google Earth.... For example in $HOME/.local/share/mime/application/vnd.google-earth.kmz.xml .kde4/share> cat ./mimelnk/application/vnd.google-earth.kmz.desktop [Desktop Entry] # Installed by xdg-mime from googleearth-mimetypes.xml Type=MimeType MimeType=application/vnd.google-earth.kmz Icon=application-vnd.google-earth.kmz Comment=Keyhole Markup Language archive Patterns=*.kmz; In /usr/share/applications/ there is ./googleearth.desktop The last files that are kmz related I know are located in: /usr/share/mime # find | grep google ./packages/googleearth-mimetypes.xml ./application/vnd.google-earth.kmz.xml ./application/vnd.google-earth.kml+xml.xml Shouldn't this be sufficient for konqueror to open kmz files automatically? At firefox offers to open the links with GE, konqueror should be able to do that too, isn't it??? -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] problem with the media key
by CP Hennessy 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, My base system is opensuse 11.2 but I've made a "few" updates : - KDE4.4 - X11 from /repositories/X11%3a/XOrg/openSUSE_11.2/ - and kernel 2.6.33 I have very few problems with this. However one really annoying one is the media keys to play/pause, stop, etc which do not cause any action. This was working before the update(s) above. I can assign the MediaPlay custom key in amarok in the global shortcuts (i.e. when I click on "None" option and then use the "MediaPlay" key it is accepted. However either the application never receives the key or it ignores it. I tried other apps and had the same results. Using "xev" I can see that the key being returned is XF86AudioPlay. I've attached a small pyqt4 script which runs and shows the comparrison with the QT "Media" key which runs successfully on my Dell laptop. But still the apps do not recognise the key. Can anyone give me any hint how I can figure this out ? Thanks, CPH

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20100318
by Lubos Lunak 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

See http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/ for futher details. === Old AIs === * test oxygen-modulecule (everybody) ** AI: import oxygen-molecule to KKFD, submit to factory, set as default (llunak) * InitalZero to submitrequest kaffeine ** AI: ask initialZero about kaffeine (wstephenson) === Status Report === * KDE netboot reference project ** http://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/03/17/the-kde-plasma-reference/ etc. === On-demand Package Installation === * experimental support for 11.3 to detect missing applications, debuginfo, codecs, etc. and ask for installing them automatically * see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-03/msg00138.html for details * testing and feedback is welcome === Q&A, Misc === * inclusion of .iso preview service menu ** http://osdir.com/ml/kde-devel/2010-01/msg00149.html ** submit request for KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop should be created, or a bugreport ** AI: make a SR for iso preview ( javier_ ) === Action Items === * import oxygen-molecule to KKFD, submit to factory, set as default (llunak) * ask initialZero about kaffeine (wstephenson) * make a SR for iso preview ( javier_ ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 18th March, 17:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 18th March, at 17:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * on-demand package installation * old action items * status report * calls for testing * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=18&month=3&year=20… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] synaptiks on openSUSE 11.3
by Andi Sugandi 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi Listmates, I could not tap the touchpad of Acer Aspire 5620 on openSUSE 11.3 Mx (it works on openSUSE 11.2 though), but worked nice with synaptiks installed (from KKFD repository). Will the package be included in the 11.3 public release? Best regards, -- Andi Sugandi (Bandung) openSUSE Ambassador http://en.opensuse.org/User:Andisugandi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Rekonq on openSUSE
by Markus 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Hi. To whoever created the Rekonq package in KDE/Community: You forgot to package the language files. :-) Bye, Markus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Must be something wrong with 'screensaver-mode' anyway...
by Oddball 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

As i now left the newly configured desktop alone, to write and read mail, on another machine, and making some food. Returning after about 15-20 minutes, i found the desktop in a black screen. Moving mouse, or hitting 'shift' on the keyboard established nothing... I had to 'reset' with the button.... Is this known, or could it be realated to only 512MB ram? (Swap 750MB), or a vga-card: ATI RV250 lf, with only 64mb video-ram on it? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.33-rc6-2-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-SFN1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] How to get panel back?
by Oddball 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hi, I installed 11.2 from netinstall just today, on a p4p800 asus mainboard with p4x2 3GHz. After updating and hardware configuring i logged in. I wanted to set a screensaver. After selecting it, the desktop froze, and i had to reset with the button. After rebooting, the panel was gone, not to return after a few reboots.. So no control whatsoever just alt+F2 in kde4. I removed the whole .kde4 dir, as all was just new i thought np. This did not bring back the panel also... Any tip as how to proceed to get a panel back again? tia... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.33-rc6-2-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-SFN1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Desktop Folder--> My Computer Reporting wrong Nvidia driver?
by upscope 14 Mar '10

14 Mar '10

Video card Nvidia 8400GS When I display the Nvidia configuration with NVIDIA X Server Settings it shows 190.53. with RPM command I get: rpm -qa |grep nvidia x11-video-nvidiaG02-190.53-9.1.x86_64 nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-190.53_2.6.31.5_0.1-8.1.x86_64 Hardware info in YaST shows the driver as nvidia. When I use desktop folder --> My Computer, shows the nvidia driver as nv. This is happening on both 11.2 KDE 4.4.1. release 225 and on 11.3 MS3 KDE 4.4.1 release 227. If I do dmesg right after boot up I get error message in 11.3 as follows: [ 14.845426] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [ 14.845430] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint [ 14.944510] hald-probe-inpu[1651]: segfault at 2 ip 00007fea17eece49 sp 00007fffe00e6600 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7fea17e75000+157000] [ 14.951621] hald-probe-inpu[1652]: segfault at 2 ip 00007f0a7e625e49 sp 00007fffa6922fc0 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f0a7e5ae000+157000] [ 14.965793] hald-probe-inpu[1654]: segfault at 2 ip 00007ff8c3c67e49 sp 00007fffdc550280 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7ff8c3bf0000+157000] [ 14.971553] hald-probe-inpu[1655]: segfault at 2 ip 00007f22ef9fee49 sp 00007fff01aa9ab0 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f22ef987000+157000] [ 14.976122] hald-probe-inpu[1656]: segfault at 2 ip 00007f0601d6fe49 sp 00007fff2c3a3d20 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f0601cf8000+157000] [ 14.980162] hald-probe-inpu[1658]: segfault at 2 ip 00007f49c9115e49 sp 00007fff2d817a90 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f49c909e000+157000] [ 15.409668] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 15.409675] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 15.409679] vgaarb: device changed decodes: PCI:0000:01:00.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=io+mem [ 15.409914] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 195.36.03 Mon Feb 1 18:33:51 PST 2010 Don't know if the seg fault has anything to do with it. 11.2 just tell me the: 6.367104] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [ 6.367109] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint [ 6.495115] EDAC MC: Ver: 2.1.0 Mar 6 2010 [ 6.595656] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x0924 pid 0x3D57 [ 6.595671] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp [ 6.621368] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 6.621375] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 6.621575] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 190.53 Wed Dec 9 15:29:46 PST 2009 [ 6.656996] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/12x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray There is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 on either system. I do find a xorg.conf in var/lib/sax but its from 11-2009. Show my old Panasonic monitor. my actual monitor is now a Samsung lcd. Its detected correctly by YaSt and hwdinfo. How can I tell which driver is really in use? My kernel is: 2.6.31.12-18-desktop on 11.2. installed to get around shutdown problem. The problem above existed before I installed the kernel update. Any ideas would be appreciated! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Amarok on openSUSE-11.2 no sound
by Richard Bos 14 Mar '10

14 Mar '10

Hi, Settings -> configure amarok -> playback -> configure: Music: 2 choices - Pulse Audio - HDA Intel (Generic) Press 'test' in this dialog for both options sound is here (KDE tune). There is no gstreamer listed Backend tab shows: Xine (it also shows 'deinterlacing' information, but this is I think not applicable for sound. Anyway the DVD is checked and deinterlacing method is set to 'use_vo_driver'). Tried different user, no sound either. Installed rpms are: amarok-2.1.1 libxine1-1.1.16.1-7.6 libxine1-gnome-vfs-1.1.16.1-7.6 libxine1-pulse-1.1.16.1-7.6 phonon-backend-xine-4.3.1-3.3 alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.21-3.3 alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit-1.0.21-3.3 libpulse0-0.9.21-1.1.1 libpulse0-32bit-0.9.21-1.1.1 libxine1-pulse-1.1.16.1-7.6 pulseaudio-0.9.21-1.1.1 pulseaudio-lang-0.9.21-1.1.1 vlc-aout-pulse-1.0.4-1.54 When I navigate with Dolphin to my folder with mp3, and select one of them it's opened by VLC and the song is played. When I do the same and manually select 'kaffeine' to play the song, no sound is heart. An error msg is presented instead, stating: "cannot find input plugin for MRL [cdda:/]". I tried 'aplay' to play the mp3's, but that only resulted in noise. In this case I assume that I should supply aplay with arguments. But for now, I don't know which ones. Can anybody give me a hint where to start to get Amarok play my music? -- TIA, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] K3b 1.91 released
by Markus 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Dear packagers, since K3b 1.90 was already not packaged, I'd like to inform you that 1.91 is available: https://sourceforge.net/projects/k3b/files/k3b/1.91.0rc2/k3b-1.91.0rc2.tar.… Bye, Markus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Packaging kaffeine pre3
by Marc Benstein 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hey Team, I was reading the last meeting transcript and noticed you guys haven't seen my submit requests (I was unable to attend). Anyways, I keep getting denied by coolo anyways. Could someone please explain how to add the .changes file. The original package I used had changelog as part of the .spec. So I looked at another package and noticed that the changelog was moved to a .changes file. So I did that. Apparently, I destroyed it? So I have no clue how to add the .changes file to the package even though it is a part of my build project. My latest denied request is #34343 bensteinm@bensteinm08:~/tmp > osc rq show 34343 Request #34343: submit: home:benstein/kaffeine(r10) -> KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop/kaffeine Message: Version change to pre3 from pre2. Added a patch to support strict gcc compiler. Removed an outdated patch. Added requires for xine-lib added in pre3. Moved changelog from spec to changes file State: declined 2010-03-08T17:59:10 coolo Comment: you destroyed the .changes file History: new 2010-03-08T17:46:13 benstein Thanks in advance. -- Marc Benstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Upstream version of Konqueror 'Introduction Page' on openSUSE 11.3 Mx
by Andi Sugandi 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hello, KDE 4 Live (openSUSE 11.2)[0] has the upstream background image[1] on Konqueror 'Introduction Page' while openSUSE 11.3 Milestones (KDE 4.4) has its (temporary?) branding[2]. Which package i should install to have the upstream version on Konqueror 'Introduction Page' in openSUSE 11.3 Milestones? Thanks in advance. [0] http://home.kde.org/~kdelive [1] http://picasaweb.google.com/andisugandi/OpenSUSE#5447237271572246418 [2] http://picasaweb.google.com/andisugandi/OpenSUSE#5447237271771262802 Best regards, -- Andi Sugandi (Bandung) openSUSE Ambassador http://en.opensuse.org/User:Andisugandi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Removed desktop plasma
by Allan Dreyer Andersen 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hi guys I was trying to delete an extra panel I was trying out but accentually got deleted the desktop plasma (don't know the correct word for it). A screen shot of what I have deleted is here: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/images/kde430-desktop.png It's in the far back and called Desktop - how do I create this again? Thanks in advance. -- Venlig hilsen / Best regards Allan Dreyer Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-kde] Kmail distribution lists
by Richard Creighton 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

On Monday 08 March 2010 06:21:09 Will Stephenson wrote: > On Monday 08 March 2010 06:38:20 911 wrote: > > Any and all ideas, suggestions, would be most helpful. At this moment I > > cannot send out emails to my distribution lists and the backlog grows > > significanly. > > I suggest that in the short term you revert your KDE PIM packages to > 4.3.5. > > "zypper in kdepim4=4.3.5-0.1.4" will do this for you currently, however the > build number /may/ change, use "zypper se -s --match-exact kdepim4" to > determine the current build number. > > I am hammering on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223034 to get this > bug addressed promptly. > > Will Will, While you're hammering... A friend of mine whom I converted to SuSE some time ago and KDE PIM circa 3.5.10 uses the "CUSTOM" fields in the Contacts portion of KMail/PIM/Contacts. Specifically, she uses the ROLE: field and has defined some custom fields like JOINED_DATE: ORIENTATION_DATE: MAILING_LIST and so on. She is still using that version but I am testing 4.4.1 of Kontact for her for possible upgrade. I have found that there is no way to edit the fields, nor use the data in those custom fields in her mailing lists programs. She has many thousands of customers/members in her business that she uses KMail and Kontact and a custom written mailing list program that can use the *.vcf fields maintained/exported by Kontact to control its' mailing of EMail to her customers and club members, which may be several thousand on any given mailing. The custom program sends / meters the rate at which she sends mail so that no single ISP is flooded with email at any time and mail is only sent to those that have requested mail previously. Her ISP used to limit her outbound send rate to so many per hour and so many per day and even that limit is accounted for in the program, but the custom fields in her Contacts list are important to her and it appears to me that while the fields seem to be in the *.vcf files that are imported (dont know if they stay there or not permanently but...), but for sure, Kontact's editor neither displays nor allows editing of these fields that were created in v3.5.10 and exported by that version. It would be somewhat imperitive for the new version of Kontact to maintain the ability to import and edit CUSTOM fields, ie, if the field is defined in an imported *.vcf file, it should be displayable and editable. Thanks for listening and I believe this to be the same 'hammer' as bug 223034. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-kde] Kmail distribution lists
by 911 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

> On Sunday 07 Mar 2010 07:06:59 911 wrote: > > > On Saturday 06 March 2010 05:39:23 911 wrote: > > > > Running 11.2, 4.4. Kmail 1.13.0 > > If you are using this for real work etc, you shouldn't be upgrading your > important working environment for no real reason. This is the prime reason > most corporations are a full release of an OS behind the current release. > Its a hard way to learn, almost the same way people learn to make backups > when they don't have one to restore after a crash. > Keep bleeding edge away from a working environment, create a separate > partition for bleeding edge. > Welllllll....Ian. Don't know exactly what you are telling me here. I am a true believer in "stable" (been there - done that and regretted it) but everyone on this list says 4.4 is "It" The "Cat's Meow?" so to speak. So I just jumped and upgraded to 4.4 because I was so dissapointed with KDE4 up to that point, hoping, of course, (ignorantly) that 4.4 was the answer. Apparently not. When will I learn??? Soooo....chastising me, as I have done to myself, is deserved, it would be nice if people who are in the know, would help me to extricate myself from this morass. Any and all ideas, suggestions, would be most helpful. At this moment I cannot send out emails to my distribution lists and the backlog grows significanly. Dear God, I pray that I will not have to rebuild lists with hundreds of Email addresses. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kde-obs-generator does not work
by Daniele 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

HI, I'd like to try kde-obs-generator but i does not work. dan@kailed:~> kde-obs-generator Your user account / password are not configured yet. You will be asked for them below, and they will be stored in /home/dan/.oscrc for future use. Creating osc configuration file /home/dan/.oscrc ... then nothing happens.. so ^C Strace output (last 3 lines): gettimeofday({1268163934, 343238}, NULL) = 0 stat64("/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2652, ...}) = 0 select(1024, [9 13 15], [], NULL, NULL Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] RE: [opensuse-testing] "Kicker" height
by Rastislav Krupanský 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

> -----Original Message----- > From: Felix Miata [mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:00 AM > To: opensuse-testing(a)opensuse.org > Subject: [opensuse-testing] "Kicker" height > > How does one configure the toolbar at screen bottom to some certain px > height. I don't seem to be able to find out how one is supposed to change > it > by dragging either, but naturally dragging is no way to get a consistent > size for comparability across multiple users or systems. > -- Yea, that´s good question. I would like to know myself. It´s missing for me also. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] audacious2
by Peter Czanik 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

Hello, I have an ugly problem with audacious2. I know, it's not a KDE application and not even something comming from an official openSUSE repository (it is packman), still I'd like to know, how this kind of problem could be debugged/solved. Since the latest KDE upgrade to 4.3.5 (which was an official upgrade on openSUSE 11.2) text in audacious menus is not shown any more (or is on black on black, which is the same from the usefulness point of view...). It worked fine before the upgrade and still works fine when I start TWM instead of KDE. Here is a screenshot: http://peter.czanik.hu/audacious_popup.png Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] two weirdnesses with kde 4.4.1
by Mathias Homann 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

Hi, I'm running 4.4.1 from buildservice:kde:kde4:factory on an 11.2 and I'm having two weird effects here: 1. when I put my mouse pointer over a desktop icon, a black circle with a + sign appears in the top left corner of that icon. I can click that + to turn it into a -, but there's no other visible effect than that... where does that come from, how do I get rid of it or what is it good for? 2. On every login the icons on my desktop arrange themselves in several neat columns along the left edge of my desktop. All options that I could find regarding icon placement have already been switched off. With as many desktop icons as I have this can be rather annoying... Any hints? My desktop is configured like this: 8 virtual desktops, only one activity set (desktop view), pointing to the standard desktop folder (~/Desktop). "Glassified" plasma theme, oxygen window decorations & icons & style. ~ is on a nfs share. composite effects are active. ... I'm running the same configuration on my laptop (same versions installed, same desktop setup, same "look configuration"), and neither of the two is happening there... the only difference that I can think of is that on the laptop ~ is on a local partition... Anyone got some suggestions for me? thanks, MH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Can't Ctrl C and Ctrl V to copy and paste from Konqueror?
by Bob Smits 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

I've been using Kaggregator in KDE-PIM, which uses Konqueror as the browser to go to links from Kaggregator. Unfortunately, Konqueror no longer seems to be able to Copy highlighted material with Ctrl C, and then to write it with Ctrl V, the way we've done it for ever. Is this a setting I've missed? Or is this a new "feature" in Konqueror? Thanks, Bob -- Robert Smits Email bob(a)rsmits.ca -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] OpenSync and KDE
by Malte Gell 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

Hello, I want to sync my Nokia N97 with KOrganizer from Kontact. I use openSUSE 11.1 and try to learn about OpenSync. I would like to know, does the libopensync-plugin-kdepim that comes with openSUSE 11.1 support KDE 4 or only KDE 3? I use KDE 4.3.5. Regards Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Call for testing: Cross-distro building of KDE packages in OBS
by Lubos Lunak 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

Hello, I'm looking for people who'd be interested in testing a tool that helps packaging applications in the build service. If you have no experience with packaging, that's not an excuse but a perfect qualification :). Comments from people who do have experience are valued too. http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Build_Service/Cross-distro has a HOWTO explaining the process. It is not very extensive, it's right to the point, but I hope it's sufficient. In case there are problems, try consulting http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service or other wiki pages, or ask. I have packaged a couple of various KDE apps in home:llunak:kdetest, including the tool used for this itself, so it is possible to use those as a reference. There are no manual modifications to any of those packages besides providing INFO file if necessary. If you are interested, follow the HOWTO and try to package e.g. something from kde-apps.org or kde-look.org . I'd be especially interested in: - various build and packaging errors caused by the tool (there is also the possibility that the application tarball itself is broken) - wrong or missing mapping of package names (e.g. from the tarball to package names or between distributions) - any other problems that would hinder the usage of the tool for easy packaging of KDE apps Please mention the project and package name if you report any problems (report them simply as replies here). The tool is not perfect (nor can it be), so it is aimed to be used only for the initial package creation. It is possible to manually modify the generated files afterwards. I intend to create another tool to also help doing e.g. version updates. Thanks -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Kmail distribution lists
by 911 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

Hello SuSE KDE people, Running 11.2, 4.4. Kmail 1.13.0 Can't send any mail with a Distribution list because Kmail keeps adding an @Easystreet at the end of the list name and the server will not accept it. (Easystreet is the name of my computer) I am pretty sure that this was working OK until I enabled Nepomuk/Akonadi/Strigi whatever. How do I make this right again? Ideas? Can I go to wherever these apps put things and delete whatever they have done? Could that work? I have already disabled Nepomuk/Strigi because it kept popping up messages that it couldn't do this or that. The addressbook in Kmail is also broken or "optimized"? You can no longer edit it. You know, things like Family, Business, Friends, Distribution List, etc. I know, I know, the Devs are trying to give us these great indexing/integration tools but it just doesn't work and gives people like me all kinds of grief. Yell at me, tell me I don't understand, but please help. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Vanilla KDE in OpenSuse
by Dotan Cohen 06 Mar '10

06 Mar '10

I have been using another KDE distro for some time (Kubuntu). I will probably be back on OpenSuse 11.3 comes out, but I would like to have KDE as close to vanilla KDE as possible. Is this easily done in OpenSuse? How? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Icons machen einen "knicks"...
by Mathias Homann 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

Hallo Liste, ich hab da grad mal ein ganz seltsames Problemchen... Immer wenn ich ein icon auf meinem Desktop anklick, machen alle anderen Icons so einen kleinen "Hopser"... als ob sie Schluckauf hätten oder so... Wie krieg ich das abgestellt? Laufen tut hier ne 11.2 mit KDE 4.4.1 aus den KDE4:Factory repositories. Seltsam ist auch dass das nur auf meinem Laptop passiert... Aufm desktop rechner nicht. Verwendete Icons: oxygen (icon animationen hab ich schon abgestellt, hopsen tun sie immer noch 0.o) Vorschläge? danke, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Krunner crash / performance issues
by Tejas Guruswamy 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

Continuing a discussion that was on the main list, but is more relevant to this one, On 01/03/10 16:59, Will Stephenson wrote: > I guess that it's crashing. KRunner uses multiple 'Runners' running in > their > own threads. If you click the wrench icon at the left side of the > KRunner > popup, you can disable individual runners. Could you try to disable > individual runners (binary search?) to determine which one is dying? > > You can also restart krunner in gdb in a shell to get a backtrace of the > crashing runner with > killall krunner && gdb --args krunner --nocrashhandler --nofork > then 'run', then when it dies 'bt', copy that, finally 'quit' to get > out of > gdb, killing the dead and suspended krunner process. I tried to test some different runners and I learnt a couple of things: * Some runners don't seem to work at all for me (as in, give no results even as the only runner loaded, for terms I know should give results). + Contacts (maybe because I have migrated my contacts to akonadi?) + Control Audio Player (tested against Amarok) + Kill (lots of debug output, no actual output) I don't use sessions so didn't have anything to test the various *-session runners against. Also, the nepomuk runner didn't give me any results but I think that's because I have strigi disabled atm. * The Windows krunner "close", "activate", work, but it crashes reliably when "shade", "min"/"max", "keep above"/"keep below" is used, taking down all of krunner * Under stress, the nepomuk krunner seems to crash according to the debug output, but restarts without bringing all of krunner down * The web-lookup runners (wikipedia, wikitravel, techbase) take a while to return any results (and in the debug output is a message saying "runner is too slow, putting it on the back burner.") - probably to be expected. With the following runners loaded krunner only crashed once in several days of use, was responsive to typing and quick to open and close: + Locations + Spell Checker + Places + Applications + Command Line + Bookmarks + Desktop Sessions + Calculator + Kopete contact runner + PowerDevil + Unit Converter + Plasma Desktop shell + KGet + Kate sessions + Konqueror sessions + Konsole sessions + Web browser history + Konqueror web shortcuts The one time I managed to get krunner to crash completely in this configuration was after about 15mins of constantly opening, typing a few things, closing, loading a new runner, unloading a runner. This didn't happen reliably. Is the attached backtrace any use? Control Audio player is very bad, and causes krunner to open+close very slowly / return results very slowly. Could be because I have a ~2000 track Amarok collection it is trying to search, but controlling amarok (play/pause) doesn't work either. However I don't see an actual crash, things just seem to stall ... So the summary of this email is try disabling the "Control Audio player", "Windows", and web-lookup runners and see if things work better/faster. Regards, Tejas

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 4th Mar, 17:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 4th March, at 17:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * old action items * status report * calls for testing * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=4&month=3&year=201… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE 11.3 KDE branding - forever green?
by Will Stephenson 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

I had an interesting conversation with the Oxygen team at Tokamak4 here last week. They are the guys who did the openSUSE Air branding for 11.2 as part of the upstream branding collaboration started by KDE. I was asking them whether they'd like to do the 11.3 branding again and the answer was 'Just say the word.' but then we started talking about the colour. It seems that the design used in 11.3 was a real love it or hate it thing. The Oxygen guys pointed out to me that of all the primary colours, green is the one that LCD monitors have the hardest time representing accurately. If you look at any monitor gamut diagram, it's always green that is weakest. The result is that greenish designs look great on the high end external monitors favoured by designers, digital photographers and gadget freaks like me, and look like many other things that are not great on lesser displays, which includes the majority of laptop displays. Other colours display much more reliably. So how would you feel if we had a non-green release this time? Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] openSUSE 11.3 KDE branding - forever green?
by S.Kemter 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

Hi, > I had an interesting conversation with the Oxygen team at Tokamak4 here last > week. They are the guys who did the openSUSE Air branding for 11.2 as part of > the upstream branding collaboration started by KDE. > > I was asking them whether they'd like to do the 11.3 branding again and the > answer was 'Just say the word.' but then we started talking about the colour. > It seems that the design used in 11.3 was a real love it or hate it thing. > The Oxygen guys pointed out to me that of all the primary colours, green is > the one that LCD monitors have the hardest time representing accurately. If > you look at any monitor gamut diagram, it's always green that is weakest. The > result is that greenish designs look great on the high end external monitors > favoured by designers, digital photographers and gadget freaks like me, and > look like many other things that are not great on lesser displays, which > includes the majority of laptop displays. Other colours display much more > reliably. > > So how would you feel if we had a non-green release this time? Will who ever said to Nuno make it green? I am sure jimmacs solar theme for the Gnome side isnt really green. And now the funny thing jimmac and me we are both not lucky with the differnce between the gnome side and the kde side in 11.2 Yeah after an (not really green) solar bootsplash comes nunos green air. Jimmac like to wait for 11.3 with what comes KDE out and go after that to make a theme and for this other things waiting like the theming for LXDM So maybe we should setup a little IRC meeting between all partys so that work can go on. br gnokii > > Will -- more http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs http://www.xing.com/go/invita/11208336 http://twitter.com/karltuxstadt http://identi.ca/karltuxstadt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] New working and existing! icon for myComputer.desktop
by Johannes Obermayr 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 22:13:08 schrieb Tejas Guruswamy: > On 27/02/10 21:03, Johannes Obermayr wrote: >> Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 21:36:58 schrieb Markus: >> >>> "mycomp" is a SUSE-specific icon which, btw, isn't even placed in the oxygen >>> folder, but in highcolor: >>> file:///usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/mycomp.png >>> (if you use openSUSE right now, you should be able to open it) >>> >> Which package? >> >> $ /usr/share/icons> find -name *mycomp* >> $ /usr/share/icons> >> >> On all my systems "myComputer" (= "Arbeitsplatz" -> German) are without icons >> ... >> >> And dependencies are also OK ... >> <snip> >> tejas@hobbes:/usr/share/icons> find . -name "*mycomp*" | xargs rpm -qf | >> sort -u >> kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE-11.2-60.4.x86_64 >> >> make sure you've not got branding-upstream installed instead That is it. I have *-branding-upstream installed for all packages and prefer it because of "ksnapshotting" for upstream translations (docs) ... But in this case we have only two possibilities: 1. Changing http://gitorious.org/opensuse/kdebase4-opensuse/blobs/master/config-files/u…: - Icon=mycomp + Icon=computer 2. Set a dependency in kdebase4-opensuse (spec-file): + Requires: kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE I prefer first solution. Thanks. Johannes

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