openSUSE KDE March 2014

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[opensuse-kde] The road to releasing KDE 4.13 (Repository naming)
by Raymond Wooninck 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

Dear Listmates, With 4.13 on the close horizon, we got the question again if the KDE:Release:XY are really such a good idea as that this would mean that users constantly have to switch and also these repo's are not always build against all openSUSE versions. We got the proposal to move to a single repository named KDE:Latest which holds the latest KDE release and is build against all supported openSUSE releases. This means that if a user wants to track the latest KDE releases, he/she only have to add this repository for his openSUSE release version and from that moment onward every new release is automagically delivered. Downside is that the user no longer has a choice which KDE release. The only choice is whether to stay with the KDE release coming with the openSUSE release (and the possible maintenance updates) or to switch to the KDE:Latest repo. On the other hand it would be getting ride of a lot of repositories and maintenance work. So we would like to have your feedback if we should stay with the current approach (KDE:Release:XY and KDE:Distro:Factory) or to move to KDE:Latest (which tracks the latest and highest release, building for all openSUSE releases) and KDE:Distro:Factory (which would hold Beta's and RC's and builds for Factory and the latest oS release). As that 4.13 is about to be released, we want to make the decision latest on Monday so that we can either release KDE:Latest or KDE:Release:413 with KDE 4.13 Thank you. your openSUSE KDE Community Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] militarises
by Blackmar Resseguie 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

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[opensuse-kde] Problem with knights 2.5.0 from extra repo
by stakanov＠freenet.de 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

Hello everybody. When I try to play a game against my computer, knights stops when charging the game saying: unable to start the application, check if it is installed. Knights is of course installed and the engines (gnuchess, crafty and stockfish20) too and verified. Is this a bug I should report or is there a trick I should know of. Standard of the engines xboard (but UCI does not make any difference), KDE 4.11.5 and tried with various desktop layout and themes. Is anybody having the same problem? If it is a bug, should I report to the mail of the author or to the bugzilla (who handles extra repo stuff?) --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Fwd: [Kde-pim] Baloo indexer in Beta 3
by Jos Poortvliet 23 Mar '14

23 Mar '14

Hmmm, should we wait for the next testing release or is it worth trying to get this in the current packages? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Martin Koller <kollix(a)aon.at> Date: Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] Baloo indexer in Beta 3 To: jospoortvliet(a)gmail.com, KDE PIM <kde-pim(a)kde.org> On Sunday 23 March 2014 08:54:12 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > Hi, > > After upgrading from Beta 2 to Beta 3, the baloo indexer has spend about 24 > hours indexing my mail. That wasn't an issue in Beta 2... How can I find out > what in $DEITY's name it is doing? What I've learned is that there was a bug with maildir handling, which got just solved after the beta3 tagging. I did install the current git snaphost and here it works pretty well. Indexing from scratch my ~83k mails took just half an hour or so. See the following chat I had: [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:38:59] <cmollekopf> mkoller: If you're not on a recent git snapshot maildir doesn't work yet. [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:39:20] <mkoller> I'm on 4.12.95 - maildir should work here AFAIK [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:39:26] <cmollekopf> because the cache is constantly expired, it looked to baloo as if the items were added and removed all the time. [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:39:47] <mkoller> I know that. I think I was the one who reported the problem ... [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:42:35] <mkoller> yes, that was bug #332196 [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:42:36] <bugbot> KDE bug 332196 in Baloo (General) "baloo does not index all mails" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/332196 [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:43:15] <tsdgeos> mkoller: i was told you need akonadi 1.1.90 too [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:43:26] <cmollekopf> indeed [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:43:34] <cmollekopf> commit 88fa239 [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:43:52] <cmollekopf> and without c8b910d your items will be constantly reindexed [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:43:56] <cmollekopf> which is from yesterday [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:44:31] <mkoller> hmmm I installed the openSuse packages today. akonadi rpm says Version : 4.12.95 Release : 452.1 [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:44:46] <cmollekopf> and with c8b910d you'll need 15ae81f from kdepimlibs [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:45:00] <cmollekopf> that doesn't even make sense -.- [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:45:28] <cmollekopf> mkoller: Without the patches from yesterday you can forget maildir with baloo. [Friday 21 March 2014] [17:45:39] <cmollekopf> The good news is, since today it works for me nicely -- Best regards/Schöne Grüße Martin A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q: Why is top posting bad? () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ - against proprietary attachments Geschenkideen, Accessoires, Seifen, Kulinarisches: www.bibibest.at -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] libprison not current
by Martin Koller 16 Mar '14

16 Mar '14

Hi, I was just hitting a crash in libprison in openSuse 13.1. cloning the kde:prison repo however shows me that this bug was already fixed 3 years ago ... I don't know the policy regarding what version openSuse uses to deliver, but if it's just the version with the latest tag (here v1.0) then this is in that case probably not so good. Can someone make sure that the latest master checkout of libprison will be used, please ? -- Best regards/Schöne Grüße Martin A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q: Why is top posting bad? () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ - against proprietary attachments Geschenkideen, Accessoires, Seifen, Kulinarisches: www.bibibest.at -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Weather plasmoid
by ianseeks 15 Mar '14

15 Mar '14

Hi Is anyone else having issue with them? THey don't seem to work anymore, i had mine configured for London UK (using Wettercom - i used to be able to use BBC but now that seems no longer an option) but now the list of weather stations has disappeared. regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] calligra-l10n
by Nico Kruber 15 Mar '14

15 Mar '14

hi, fellow maintainers, does anyone know why the publishing of calligra-l10n in KDE:Extra is disabled? calligra itself is published and thus raising a dependency error... last change to calligra-l10n is 5 days ago - unfortunately OBS does not keep track of why/when repository metadata changed, so I'm asking here... Regards Nico

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[opensuse-kde] ffmpeg in KDE:Extra
by Cor Blom 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

Hi, ffmpegthumbs and cantata (and maybe other stuff, but I only use these two) are build against the ffmpeg in Extra, but they require ffmpeg 1 (libavcode.so.54). They build and work fine with the latest ffmpeg. Maybe we should update the dummy ffmpeg package in Extra? Regards, Cor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] We want to hear from YOU
by Peter 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

On 08/03/14 09:01, Raymond Wooninck wrote: > Dear fellow KDE Desktop user, We want to hear from you about your > experience with the KDE Desktop within openSUSE and where we could > improve. Click on the link below and give us your feedback. Every > opinion counts. http://eSurv.org?s=OBNLNJ_9747839c We wil... Well I tried. But I got an Internal 500 Server Error or some such annoyance at the end. I had already anticipated such a circumstance - these survey backends are always horseshit and let me down at the last moment. It's why I have a routine of Ctrl-A Ctrl-C built in to my brain when filling out any form text field. So perhaps the reason it failed was because when I got to the last question 13 I thought yay, an opportunity to spout off directly to some developers, let me grab a beer. And away I went, typing to my heart's content. About half an hour later I thought 'this will fail when I hit submit, either because I've taken too long or because I've typed too much.' So here were my remarks in response to the open-ended question 13. I don't care if the world at large gets to read them. (Since I'm not subscribed to this list and just read it via RSS I will probably not be able to reply in any useful threaded way in case anyone responds here). ---- 13. In your opinion where could the openSUSE KDE Community team improve? ---- The current openSUSE dark KDE themes are unusable, resulting in various places where text or other elements are unreadable against the background. I have quickly modified the popular Obsidian Coast theme with a few more SUSE-like greens and that works much better (aside from this very box I'm typing in now which has an awful default contrast for some reason - must be pulling in some colour elements from the page design; yellow on white, urgh). The standard KDE setup in openSUSE could be improved. Many things are a matter of taste but some stuff is just poor attention to detail. The default taskbar at the bottom of the screen is not high enough, resulting in some squashed elements, and certain systray hover popups appear at the top-right of the screen instead of the bottom-right (at least on my 1280x800 resolution). I find a minimum height of 32 pixels suffices for the panel. Some elements don't work with a vertical panel, others like plasmoids have weird button borders that don't fit the buttons, or the KRunner dropdown suggestions when typing are too small and cut off, perhaps because I've increased the default font size. The default KDE fonts are horrid and not big enough. I prefer 9pt across the board with 10pt bold in the window titles, but admittedly I install the MS fonts since I never liked DejaVu, Bitstream Vera or any other alternatives. The boot, login and default backgrounds were disappointingly not changed in the last release, which is not to say that they were bad but it's the first time I ever recall there being no visual refresh from one oS distro update to another. However, I'm not keen on how previous editions from the 9.x series onwards used constantly differing shades of green (and don't even mention the heretic blue that briefly appeared). There was talk years ago of scrapping the initial KDE welcome splash screen and/or updating it with something else, but we're still stuck with it. I don't know why it would be so difficult to create some local HTML page that opens in a browser. The additional elements could be contained as hidden files in the users' .kde4 directories with the main .html file sitting on the desktop (or the page elements could be in /Desktop/.kde_greeter). That way people can still make use of it if offline, and link to installed help files and documentation. openSUSE could make more of an effort to distinguish its KDE desktop, unless it really wants to just go with raw upstream defaults. Nothing elaborate, but how about some more obvious default Activities, with buttons or links provided somewhere so people actually try them out instead of having to actively go looking for them? How about an implementation of KMix that isn't abjectly horrible? That is to say, with PulseAudio enabled, one that doesn't resize the main mixer window after every subsequent opening such that none of the controls are visible. And by the way, that question about KCM Touchpad vs Synaptiks. I don't even know what I'm using any more. In my previous 12.3 installation they seemed to both be installed and conflicting, and I eventually had to manually remove Synaptiks from the loaded services then delete it entirely. But at the same time, a couple of nice bits of configuration functionality seem to have vanished, like the ephemeral option to prefer short touchpad taps to long ones, where did that go? Finally, not KDE-specific, but will whoever kept parroting the notion that every successive version of openSUSE provided a more flicker-free boot please shut up? It is absolutely not true, in fact on all my machines the boot provides more buggering about now than it ever did even nine years ago. It's just a blatant lie to say that plymouth and all the rest has made the boot process smooth and flicker free. It's all over the place. I keep seriously thinking about uninstalling all that stuff and just watching a lot of incoherent text scroll up the screen like the good (bad) old days. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] video thumbnailer for Dolphin
by Malte Gell 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

Hello, I use openSUSE 13.1 and want to chose a video thumbnailer for Dolphin. Currently I have these packages installed: ffmpegthumbnailer-2.0.8-3.4.x86_64 libffmpegthumbnailer4-2.0.8-3.4.x86_64 kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.11.5-322.1.x86_64 kde-audio-thumbnail-0.2-3.1.x86_64 kffmpegthumbnailer-1.1.0-2.1.x86_64 kde-odf-thumbnail-1.0.0-3.1.x86_64 When I hover over a video and want to see a quick preview within Dolphin, Dolphin wants to install some Gstreamer parts. What thumbnailer depends on Gstreamer? What of the packages above can I remove? What package do I need to keep to have video thumbnails in Dolphin? Thanks Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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