February 2011 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] KDE Branding HOWTO
by Will Stephenson 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I've been finishing the branding work for 11.3 this week, and have been documenting how to do it as I go. The first draft is attached. Comments? If I was hit by a bus tomorrow, could you do openSUSE 11.4 branding? (Lubos doesn't need to answer that ;)). Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex

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[opensuse-kde] Could you readd openSUSE 11.1 build targets for KDE:Release:45 and KDE:Distro:Factory please
by Hans-Peter Jansen 13 Apr '11

13 Apr '11

Hi, could some kind soul with KDE: admin privileges readd these targets for the KDE:Release:45 and KDE:Distro:Factory projects at least? E.g: add this segment to the respective project: <repository name="openSUSE_11.1"> <path repository="standard" project="DISCONTINUED:openSUSE:11.1:Update"/> <arch>x86_64</arch> <arch>i586</arch> </repository> Thanks in advance, Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] recoll links don't work
by johnm_s2 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

11.4 RC1 x86_64 recoll 1.15.1-1.3 from KDE:Extra factory The hyperlinks in the search results aren't working for me. Click and nothing happens. (Preview, Open, Next) Anyone else? -johnm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Fixes for 11.4
by Karsten König 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

I tried finding important fixes we might want to ship I couldn't search for duplicates so I had to stick to votes =/ Plasma crashes on logout https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264076 I couldn't reproduce (as aseigo) but there is alot of duplicates https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264076#c29 suggests which commits are important Digikam removes tags https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264745 data loss! vlc hangs on open dialog https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260719 very annoying bug and the commit got proper review hanging nepomuk query https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246678 sounds like an important patch to improve virtuoso kwin shadow buggy https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243890 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229164 removes the shadow implementation, kwin dev: "The shadow effect is known to be broken since at least 4.5." store luks passwords in kwallet https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186783 just a feature request but lots of votes djvu crash in okular https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=266133 kget crash https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265681 (pretty big diff =/) There were some other interesting crash fixes but mostly on corner cases, I hope we'll do 4.6.1 through update though. Comments? I'll make submit requests for the ones that have a chance to get through to 11.4rc2, so please tell me what is accaptable and what not. Cheers, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] nvidia 270.29 solves 32bit plasma crash?
by phanisvara das 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

even though i'm using oS 64bit and never experienced this infamous plasma crash with newer nvidia drivers, i'm subscribed to a bug re. this. just now i received an email, where a 32bit user states: ----------------- I install new beta driver from ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.29/ and now plasma work! ----------------- https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=648718#c80 would be nice to know if this is a happy exception, or if this bug has finally been resolved. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Qtcurve-->Configure Aqua Apply then Curve Apply causes plasma desktop to crash on RC2
by Roman Bysh 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

Deal Listmates, I have installed KDE 4.6.0 openSUSE RC2 Every time I select Qtcurve -->Configure--> Aqua OK and Apply Then Qtcurve -->Configure--> Curve OK and Apply causes the plasma desktop to crash every time including kwin, akonadi, nepomuk.... I had to press CTRL+ALT+DEL twice to exit the crash and log back in again. My graphics card is a GeForce 8600 GTS Nvidia driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-270.29.run used. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Select Configure Desktop --> Application Appearance 2. Select Qtcurve -->Configure--> Aqua OK and Apply 3. Select Qtcurve -->Configure--> Curve OK and Apply 4. Plasma desktop crashes Please see Bugzilla link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675651 -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] synaptiks 0.5
by todd rme 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

Synaptiks was recently updated to 0.5 (now 0.5.2): http://synaptiks.lunaryorn.de/ However, this version is a rewrite in python. Should the openSUSE KDE version be updated as well? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Switching desktops
by Marc Chamberlin 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

There are times that I simply cannot grok the minds of developers and this is one of them... I have a laptop, with a touchpad that handles scrolling by touching it along the side of the touchpad area. With multiple desktops, this was resulting in an extremely annoying behavior (to me) in that I would inadvertently touch the side while manipulating the mouse cursor, and the freaking desktop would switch on me. So, I decided to track down where this behavior was set and the first LOGICAL place to look for it was in the KDE Desktop Settings > Multiple Desktops > Switching Seems like a REAL APPROPRIATE place for such a setting to be found, but no joy there! Nothing, nada about mouse scroll behavior... Not believing that this was a built in "feature" I hunted and hunted around and FINALLY discovered that by right clicking on the background to bring up the context sensitivity menu, selecting Desktop Activity Settings, one finds Mouse Actions here! Why here??? And there I found the miscreant setting for mouse scrolling set to switch desktops! Why make this so difficult? Either have this setting ability located in both places so it can be more easily found, OR just locate it in the KDE Desktop Settings along with the rest of the options for controlling desktop switching. What is the rational for having two different locations/mechanisms for switching desktops? openSuSE 11.3 KDE 4.4.4 Marc.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Switching desktops
by Will Stephenson 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

<resent due to Reply-To:> On Sunday 27 February 2011 20:54:38 Marc Chamberlin wrote: > <disappointment that the desktop settings->mouse actions KCM has the UI for switching desktop on mouse wheel, not the virtual desktops KCM> > Why make this so difficult? Either have this setting ability located in > both places so it can be more easily found, OR just locate it in the KDE > Desktop Settings along with the rest of the options for controlling > desktop switching. What is the rational for having two different > locations/mechanisms for switching desktops? AFAICS there is no rationale for it. This code has never been touched by a usability person, so the configuration is in the same logical place as the code that executes it (the path of least resistance for the coder method). My gentle recommendation is to channel your frustration into productive energy and work out a design which unifies the "virtual desktops->switching" UI with the "desktop settings->mouse actions" UI and the "workspace behaviour->screen edges->switch desktop on edge" UI in a usable way. Be prepared for bikeshedding, pushback from coders (since you're forcing them out of the path of least resistance), conflicting advice from armchair usability experts like me, and the siren call of "throw out all the features because making their configuration usable is too much hard work". Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Language pack of digikam/kipiplugins
by Freek de Kruijf 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

More than 2 years ago I changed the translation into Dutch for the message Add in extragear-graphics/kipiplugin_timeadjust.po in the KDE translation repository, because the translation was wrong. I just noticed that that translation is still not in openSUSE 11.3 KDE 4.5. Is there something wrong in copying these translations from KDE to openSUSE? Should I report it in bugzilla? -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-kde3] usb headset
by Bob S 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

On Wednesday 23 February 2011 00:21:18 Mark Goldstein wrote: Hi David & Mark, Thanks for replying > > > > Let's start with 'lsusb -v' so we can try and get a handle on the > > hardware :) lsusb -v ???......OK here goes. Easystreet:/ # lsusb -v Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0002 2.0 root hub bcdDevice 2.06 iManufacturer 3 Linux 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop ehci_hcd iProduct 2 EHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:02.1 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 25 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes bInterval 12 Hub Descriptor: bLength 11 bDescriptorType 41 nNbrPorts 10 wHubCharacteristic 0x000a No power switching (usb 1.0) Per-port overcurrent protection bPwrOn2PwrGood 10 * 2 milli seconds bHubContrCurrent 0 milli Ampere DeviceRemovable 0x00 0x00 PortPwrCtrlMask 0xff 0xff Hub Port Status: Port 1: 0000.0100 power Port 2: 0000.0503 highspeed power enable connect Port 3: 0000.0100 power Port 4: 0000.0100 power Port 5: 0000.0100 power Port 6: 0000.0100 power Port 7: 0000.0100 power Port 8: 0000.0503 highspeed power enable connect Port 9: 0000.0100 power Port 10: 0000.0100 power Device Status: 0x0003 Self Powered Remote Wakeup Enabled Bus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:8904 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 6940 series Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x03f0 Hewlett-Packard idProduct 0x8904 DeskJet 6940 series bcdDevice 2.00 iManufacturer 1 HP iProduct 2 Deskjet 6940 series iSerial 3 MY92BCK21Y04Q9 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 99 bNumInterfaces 2 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower 2mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 3 bInterfaceClass 7 Printer bInterfaceSubClass 1 Printer bInterfaceProtocol 2 Bidirectional iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0008 1x 8 bytes bInterval 7 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 3 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0008 1x 8 bytes bInterval 7 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 1 bNumEndpoints 3 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 212 bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0008 1x 8 bytes bInterval 7 Device Qualifier (for other device speed): bLength 10 bDescriptorType 6 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 bNumConfigurations 1 Device Status: 0x0001 Self Powered Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05e3:070e Genesys Logic, Inc. X-PRO CR20xA USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x05e3 Genesys Logic, Inc. idProduct 0x070e X-PRO CR20xA USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader bcdDevice 93.17 iManufacturer 3 Genesys Logic iProduct 4 USB Reader iSerial 5 00202242 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 32 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 500mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip) iInterface 6 Reader Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Device Qualifier (for other device speed): bLength 10 bDescriptorType 6 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 bNumConfigurations 1 Device Status: 0x0000 (Bus Powered) Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0001 1.1 root hub bcdDevice 2.06 iManufacturer 3 Linux 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop ohci_hcd iProduct 2 OHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:02.0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 25 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0002 1x 2 bytes bInterval 255 Hub Descriptor: bLength 11 bDescriptorType 41 nNbrPorts 10 wHubCharacteristic 0x0012 No power switching (usb 1.0) No overcurrent protection bPwrOn2PwrGood 1 * 2 milli seconds bHubContrCurrent 0 milli Ampere DeviceRemovable 0x00 0x00 PortPwrCtrlMask 0xff 0xff Hub Port Status: Port 1: 0000.0100 power Port 2: 0000.0100 power Port 3: 0000.0100 power Port 4: 0000.0103 power enable connect Port 5: 0000.0103 power enable connect Port 6: 0000.0100 power Port 7: 0000.0100 power Port 8: 0000.0100 power Port 9: 0000.0100 power Port 10: 0000.0100 power Device Status: 0x0003 Self Powered Remote Wakeup Enabled Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04b8:0110 Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 1650 Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bDeviceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass bDeviceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x04b8 Seiko Epson Corp. idProduct 0x0110 Perfection 1650 bcdDevice 3.02 iManufacturer 1 EPSON iProduct 2 EPSON Scanner iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 32 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower 2mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Device Status: 0x0001 Self Powered Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:0a0b Logitech, Inc. Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x046d Logitech, Inc. idProduct 0x0a0b bcdDevice 10.13 iManufacturer 1 Logitech iProduct 2 Logitech USB Headset iSerial 0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 299 bNumInterfaces 4 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 3 G8 v3.0.0.0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 100mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 0 bInterfaceClass 1 Audio bInterfaceSubClass 1 Control Device bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 0 AudioControl Interface Descriptor: bLength 10 bDescriptorType 36 bDescriptorSubtype 1 (HEADER) bcdADC 1.00 wTotalLength 100 bInCollection 2 baInterfaceNr( 0) 1 baInterfaceNr( 1) 2 AudioControl Interface Descriptor: bLength 12 bDescriptorType 36 bDescriptorSubtype 2 (INPUT_TERMINAL) bTerminalID 13 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Undefined wLockDelay 0 Undefined Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 2 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 0 bInterfaceClass 1 Audio bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 0 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 2 bAlternateSetting 1 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 1 Audio bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 0 AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 36 bDescriptorSubtype 1 (AS_GENERAL) bTerminalLink 10 bDelay 0 frames wFormatTag 1 PCM AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor: bLength 14 bDescriptorType 36 bDescriptorSubtype 2 (FORMAT_TYPE) bFormatType 1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I) bNrChannels 1 bSubframeSize 2 bBitResolution 16 bSamFreqType 0 Continuous tLowerSamFreq 8000 tUpperSamFreq 48000 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 13 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type Synchronous Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0060 1x 96 bytes bInterval 1 bRefresh 0 bSynchAddress 0 AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 37 bDescriptorSubtype 1 (EP_GENERAL) bmAttributes 0x01 Sampling Frequency bLockDelayUnits 2 Decoded PCM samples wLockDelay 1 Decoded PCM samples Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 3 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device bInterfaceSubClass 0 No Subclass bInterfaceProtocol 0 None iInterface 0 HID Device Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 33 bcdHID 1.00 bCountryCode 0 Not supported bNumDescriptors 1 bDescriptorType 34 Report wDescriptorLength 57 Report Descriptors: ** UNAVAILABLE ** Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0002 1x 2 bytes bInterval 8 Device Status: 0x0000 (Bus Powered) Easystreet:/ > > ... And versions of kernel and alsa driver. bob@Easystreet:~> uname -a Linux Easystreet 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-12-13 11:13:53 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Not sure I know how to find out what my alsa driver is, but here is info I found.. Easystreet:/ # alsactl -v alsactl version 1.0.23 Easystreet Thanks, Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] KDE meeting on 2nd March 15UTC
by Karsten König 24 Feb '11

24 Feb '11

Am Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011, 16:49:59 schrieben Sie: > On Wednesday 23 February 2011 09:14:03 Karsten König wrote: > > The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held on Wednesday, > > 3rd March at 15:00 UTC. > > According to my calendar March 3 is a Thursday -- care to > ammend the above? > > sc Oh right, yes the meeting is on 2nd of march, Wednesday! Sorry for the confusion =( Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Documentation of kate in KDE docmessages/kdesdk/kate_fundamentals.pot
by Freek de Kruijf 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

I did have the following conversation on kde-i18n-doc(a)kde.org: > A Dimecres, 23 de febrer de 2011, Freek de Kruijf va escriure: > > Op woensdag 23 februari 2011 15:58:42 schreef Burkhard Lück: > > > Am Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011, um 13:33:45 schrieb Freek de Kruijf: > > > > Message #7 in branch and trunk in > > > > docmessages/kdesdk/kate_fundamentals.pot reads: > > > > > > > > Open the &kde; program menu by clicking on the big <guiicon>K</guiicon> > > > > icon on the toolbar at the bottom left of your screen. This will raise > > > > a menu. Move your cursor up the menu to the > > > > <menuchoice><guimenu>Applications</ > > > > guimenu><guisubmenu>Utilities</guisubmenu> <guimenuitem>Advanced Text > > > > Editor &kate;</guimenuitem></menuchoice> menu item. > > > > > > > > However it should read as: > > > > > > > > Open the &kde; program menu by clicking on the big <guiicon>K</guiicon> > > > > icon on the toolbar at the bottom left of your screen. This will raise > > > > a menu. Move your cursor up the menu to the > > > > <menuchoice><guimenu>Applications</ > > > > guimenu><guisubmenu>Utilities</guisubmenu><guisubmenu>Editor</guisubmen > > > > u> <guimenuitem>Advanced Text Editor &kate;</guimenuitem></menuchoice> > > > > menu item. > > > > > > > > Note the added <guisubmenu>Editor</guisubmenu> > > > > > > /me has Applications->Utilities->Advanced Text Editor &kate; in trunk + > > > branch compiled from sources, no additional 'Editor'. > > > > I have openSUSE 11.4 RC2 with KDE SC 4.6.0 and I have Editor in between. > > Might be openSUSE playing with you, i don't have an Editor in the middle > either with Archlinux 4.6.0. > > Albert In fact in trunk it is not in kdesdk but in kdebase-runtime. Any comment? -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Add Colours button to change your monitor's color depth or bit depth
by Roman Bysh 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

Hello mates, I know we are very busy preparing for the openSUSE 11.4 RC2 and GM. But.. I'm proposing we add a "Colours" button to the Display and Monitor settings. This will allow the user to change the color depth via the graphics card. Color depth explained -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth ------------------------------------------------------------------- In SaX2 the button was named "Colours". Click on the following link to view how it looked in SaX2: http://en.opensuse.org/File:YaST-Monitor.jpg Since SaX2 was deprecated and "xorg.conf" was being phased out. All openSUSE users have been missing a very valuable feature to dynamically change the color depth. This could be integrated into KDE 4.6x - 4.7x revisions. The following shows a sample of different color depth settings. Example: * 32-bit * 24-bit * 16-bit * 8-bit This could be an interesting project for the Summer of Code 2011. I have submitted this feature below: https://features.opensuse.org/311322 -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE meeting on 3rd March 15UTC
by Karsten König 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

Hello everybody! Our planned meeting for today is pushed back one week as most people lack time or are unable to attend, there was no opposition to a one week delay in the channel. The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held on Wednesday, 3rd March at 15:00 UTC. For discussion this week: * announcement and marketing rally for 11.4 (remur_030) Generic all-time topics: * old action items * status report * Q&A, misc Further items are appreciated; please add them and your IRC nick to http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2011&month=3&day=… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net (feel free to add yourself to the list of people who should be notified before the meeting, at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_meetings_ping_list) Everyone is welcome to join in and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] rekonq
by Steven Sroka 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

Does anyone know why rekonq didn't become the openSUSE 11.4 KDE default browser? I justed remembered that rekonq was on the table to be the default browser in 11.4 KDE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Why, when qtcurve crashes, do I lose my *plasma* settings?
by Jon Nelson 20 Feb '11

20 Feb '11

I was fiddling qtcurve settings a bit tonight. It's absolutely lovely, except when it crashes it takes *everything* with it. Big huge crash with dozens of crash windows. What surprises me is not the crash (annoying) but rather the fact that when I log back in my plasma desktop settings are *gone*. How is it that when KDE apps crash they sometimes take their config with them? I can't even tell you how many times I've lost KDE config (usually plasma desktop related) when something goes tilt. This has been an on-going issue since I first started using KDE4, around 4.2 or 4.3. I'm running KDE 4.6.0 from KR 46 on openSUSE 11.3 -- Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Karsten König 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

Heya, 11.4 is comming up quickly and there will be no general branch update for kde, so it's single bug fixing, they won't disappear by a sudden rush of changes anymore. The 11.4 release will propably see another increase again. So in the last meeting I raised a question how we could get better bug triage coverage especially validating bugs and finding possible upstream bug fixes. Bille had the idea of dedicated bug search querries and people who will cover them to increase the chance to gain knowledge in this area, the best example might be kdepim, validating a range of kmail bugs to upstream reports will be faster then switching from an okular crash to a plasma graphical glitch to a power munching kded process. This would include a general splitting up into groups: pim, workspace, defaults, random-apps Most important is finding out about upstream reports and possible patches, these save a ton of time and can be applied quickly, spotting regular reporters and inviting them into #opensuse-kde might be a good idea as well to get them about the team. There is a opensuse bug hunt on sunday http://news.opensuse.org/2011/02/16/open-bugs-day-on-sunday-the-20th-of- february/ It's 5 days before rc2 so it's a good time to find necessary upstream patches, test them in KDF and push to Factory before the deadline. (I'll have a very long saturday in Dresden so I hope I'll be fit to join) On the other hand timely handling incoming bugs helps keeping the bugreporters reporting bugs and getting required information that's often forgotten (the usual log files for example) http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Screening_KDE#Bugreport_organization_in… explains a good way to screen the incoming stuff. Any comments on the issue? Other ideas? Am I making a fuzz about a non- problem? Regards, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Karsten König 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

Am Freitag, 18. Februar 2011, 00:12:23 schrieb Sven Burmeister: > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 22:44:09 schrieb Karsten König: > > > Sorry, 11.4's roadmap was known for half a year now. > > > > Fair enough, we had our chance. > > Did we? Was there ever a oS release with less Novell staff dedicated to > KDE? We had our chance to voice concerns about the timing. > > If we find bugs we deem important on bko and can trigger them on opensuse > > will you accept such patches or not? We will document the upstream > > bugreport and clarify that we could reproduce on opensuse so I hope this > > fits your requirement of a well documentated fix. > > This wastes a lot of time one could put into making sure that the KR46 repo > is polished and provides tested KDE 4.6.1 packages for the 11.4 release. > > Given that resources are limited I think that one should just look at the > final result and changing resources does also imply that "that's how it > always was" changes as well. > > So if we stick to the current scheme we do: > > - find out whether bugs are opensuse-specific or not > - search for bugs and report them at bko > - wait for patches and report those back to bnc > - backport them > - test them regarding regressions (who of those active on IRC uses STABLE?) > - document/beg for including the fixes into 11.4 I'd rather see us trying to find out about important crash fixes from upstream, maybe use some clever bko query so at least fix crashers. What's not fixed upstream is hard to fix in 1 week on our resources alone anyways, so even if it is a crashreport on bnc. I hope to find some time on sunday to dig abit on bko and backport stuff that looks important. > after 11.4 this continues: > - bugs that are fixed in KDE 4.6.x have to be found at bko > - report at bnc, document, beg for official update > - of course only major bugs will get those updates, so most smaller fixes > will never see 11.4 -> if you want fixes, use KR46. > - in fact, not having branch updates makes testing harder since you cannot > tell upstream that a fix did not work. Simply because it might be that it > was not included or the backport failed. I don't know about others, but unless a report turns up on bnc or I am affected myself I am not really willing to monitor bko for bugfixes after the release. I only suggest doing this for one week (until 11.4rc2 tag) and then fix what people report afterwards on bnc. > Result: 11.4 is outdated the day it gets released but continues to suck-up > time for backports. And backports are always only consuming downstream > resources whereas regressions are worked on upstream as well. > > If one puts the same resources into polishing KR46 which is not restricted > by some roadmap which does not care about KDE releases, we would get the > following: > > - find out whether bugs are opensuse-specific or not > - search for bugs and report them at bko > + only report opensuse-specific bugs back to bnc > + no backporting > + test them (who of those active on IRC uses KDF or KR46?) > > after the 11.4 release this continues: > + bugs that are fixed in KDE 4.6.x do not have to be backported > + all upstream fixes will be included > - regressions may appear and have to be reported and fixed which is done > upstream or downstream. > > Result: more fixes, less double-reporting, less double-documenting, less > backporting, less time to spend on begging for updates, more time to spend > on opensuse-specific bugs, more time to spend on knm etc., easier testing > and reporting against upstream, MAYBE some regressions on which one would > have to see whether they are more severe than the bugs that will remain in > 11.4 because of not updating to KDE 4.6.1, better tumbleweed packages. > > So IMHO the only thing that makes sense is to get all KDE 4.6.1 fixes plus > _maybe_ some regressions and then spend resources on fixing those > regressions rather than only get a minimum of fixes and waste time on work > that was already done. I support this for the post 11.4 release, polish 4.6.1 in KR46, submit it to KDS and ask people to help regression testing and push it into the opensuse update queue later. But this won't happen if we can't provide the opensuse:update watchers with a good reason and a solidly tested repo. It also won't happen if they flat out deny it, well then I'll just switch back to KDF and leave 11.4 to the people who think this will be more solid then a factory repo. > I gave up reporting to bnc because Will is too busy and most fixes will not > be allowed to get into the official updates anyway, so my time is better > spent reporting and testing upstream, i.e. on KR46 after 11.4 got > released. > > Sven Cheers, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Where is the application kst?
by Roman Bysh 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

On 02/18/2011 10:37 AM, Roman Bysh wrote: > On 02/17/2011 04:44 PM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 21:38 +0100, Freek de Kruijf wrote: >> >>> When I read the information about the KDE application kst e.g. on >>> http://kst.kde.org, it looks as if there should be an executable /usr/bin/kst. >>> However, when I install kst using the openSUSE repositories, only files in >>> /usr/lib64/ are installed. After installation of the packet kst the command >>> kst can not be found. >>> >>> Is there something missing in the kst packet? >>> >>> I should mention that a kst.pot did exist in the kde.org repository for KDE. >>> However, currently such a file does not exist. I also searched websvn.kde.org >>> and could not find the sources of kst. Very strange that kst.kde.org still >>> exists and also openSUSE does have a kst packet. >>> >> I am a fan of kst. These days, the installed binary is called kst2, even >> though the package is still called kde. I only use the 32-bit version. >> So I do not know if there are issues with the 64-bit install. >> >> The files in the 32-bit version are: >> >> /usr/bin/dirfile_maker_new >> /usr/bin/kst2 >> /usr/lib/kst/* >> /usr/lib/libkst2* >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Cheers! > > Roman > "Six by nine. Forty two." > "That's it. That's all there is." > "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe" > You can find it in: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.3/standard Cheers! Roman "Six by nine. Forty two." "That's it. That's all there is." "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Stephan Kulow 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011 schrieb Karsten König: > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:41:38 schrieb Stephan Kulow: > > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:36:00 schrieb Karsten König: > > > openSUSE usually does not take upstreams point updates after release > > > anyways, there was an exception for KDE4.3 where an SLE service pack > > > was going to ship with a more recent version, I actually liked how > > > that turned out, maybe Bille can comment a bit on the extra work this > > > caused, if possible. > > > > > > > Especially for 4.6.1, there's such a large number of fixes in, that > > > > basically 11.4 is _already_ outdated if we don't ship 4.6.1. > > > > Sorry, 11.4's roadmap was known for half a year now. > > Fair enough, we had our chance. > If we find bugs we deem important on bko and can trigger them on opensuse > will you accept such patches or not? We will document the upstream > bugreport and clarify that we could reproduce on opensuse so I hope this > fits your requirement of a well documentated fix. > Sure, you can put up any patch that has a bugzilla id (doesn't even have to be bnc) and was reviewed. What I don't want are branch updates without any review. > > PS: > I hope you don't mind me cc'ing that to opensuse-kde, so just everyone > knows what's what. I just posted with the wrong address. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Where is the application kst?
by Freek de Kruijf 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

When I read the information about the KDE application kst e.g. on http://kst.kde.org, it looks as if there should be an executable /usr/bin/kst. However, when I install kst using the openSUSE repositories, only files in /usr/lib64/ are installed. After installation of the packet kst the command kst can not be found. Is there something missing in the kst packet? I should mention that a kst.pot did exist in the kde.org repository for KDE. However, currently such a file does not exist. I also searched websvn.kde.org and could not find the sources of kst. Very strange that kst.kde.org still exists and also openSUSE does have a kst packet. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Karsten König 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:41:38 schrieb Stephan Kulow: > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:36:00 schrieb Karsten König: > > openSUSE usually does not take upstreams point updates after release > > anyways, there was an exception for KDE4.3 where an SLE service pack was > > going to ship with a more recent version, I actually liked how that > > turned out, maybe Bille can comment a bit on the extra work this caused, > > if possible. > > > > > Especially for 4.6.1, there's such a large number of fixes in, that > > > basically 11.4 is _already_ outdated if we don't ship 4.6.1. > > Sorry, 11.4's roadmap was known for half a year now. Fair enough, we had our chance. If we find bugs we deem important on bko and can trigger them on opensuse will you accept such patches or not? We will document the upstream bugreport and clarify that we could reproduce on opensuse so I hope this fits your requirement of a well documentated fix. Cheers, Karsten PS: I hope you don't mind me cc'ing that to opensuse-kde, so just everyone knows what's what. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Karsten König 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

(cc coolo as I don't know if he is subscribed/reads -kde) http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2011-02/msg00232.html is a useful root for the 4.6.(0|1) discussion that just started. Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 17:22:45 schrieb Sebastian Kügler: > Hey, > > On Thursday, February 17, 2011 13:55:45 Karsten König wrote: > > The timing is a bit of a bummer, 4.6.1 releases on 1st of march while > > opensuse 11.4 goldmaster ist on 3rd, and with the track record of not > > only including bugfixes in point releases I can atleast understand coolos > > decision. > > Would be good to communicate that to the release team. My impression was > that we (as in upstream KDE) have been pretty disciplined in including > only bugfixes, and therefore making the point releases more suitable for > downstream updates. That's the plan yes, but sometimes they also had bugs that weren't there before, I can't remember specifics, but I do remember point updates sometimes having unpleasent consquences, no show stoppers though. h > If that's not the case, we might as well not ship .1 versions and just ask > all distros to cherry-pick their updates from master. That won't make > anybody happy. openSUSE usually does not take upstreams point updates after release anyways, there was an exception for KDE4.3 where an SLE service pack was going to ship with a more recent version, I actually liked how that turned out, maybe Bille can comment a bit on the extra work this caused, if possible. > Especially for 4.6.1, there's such a large number of fixes in, that > basically 11.4 is _already_ outdated if we don't ship 4.6.1. I agree, there is alot of bkos mentioned in the commits and .0 to .1 is propably worth it, but the by current policy it is not an intended step this late in the release cycle and somehow this got overlooked, so we have to deal with the consequences. This can be begging coolo for an exception and maybe risking some last minute release delay or fixing the fallout later, with maybe bad press for the reviews. If we need another strategy to handle kde updates I suggest waiting a few weeks because right now 11.4 is on the plate and closing in fast. Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 18:57:57 schrieb Sven Burmeister: > Is there a way to get a list of all bug numbers that have been fixed since > 4.6.0 came out? I would be happy to feed them one by one into bnc just to > make sure nobody could not have noticed that it is impossible for Will to > do all the work of cherry picking from all those and backporting them + > taking care of the zypp backend + taking care of knm etc. pp. and a waste > of time compared to a branch update. It's a bit more complicated since the migration to git there is no single repo with a single 4.6 branch anymore Take these as an example: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=log&h=refs/heads/KDE/4.6 http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-runtime.git&a=log&h=refs/heads/KDE/4.6 http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdelibs.git&a=log&h=refs/heads/KDE/4.6 The bug descriptions often contain the bko# they fix Cheers, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Misplaced sun shadow in bluemarble wallpaper
by Olav P. 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Hello, After upgrading to KDE 4.6 the bluemarble wallpaper has a misplaced sun shadow. The sun shadow is correct in the marble applicatiion itself, and in KDE 4.5 it was also rendered correctly in the marble wallpaper. Has anyone else seen this? If so, is it a bug or can it be fixed in some setting? Cheers Olav -- Olav P. http://www.twitpic.com/photos/olavpet -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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