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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Stephan Kulow 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011 schrieb Karsten König: > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:41:38 schrieb Stephan Kulow: > > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:36:00 schrieb Karsten König: > > > openSUSE usually does not take upstreams point updates after release > > > anyways, there was an exception for KDE4.3 where an SLE service pack > > > was going to ship with a more recent version, I actually liked how > > > that turned out, maybe Bille can comment a bit on the extra work this > > > caused, if possible. > > > > > > > Especially for 4.6.1, there's such a large number of fixes in, that > > > > basically 11.4 is _already_ outdated if we don't ship 4.6.1. > > > > Sorry, 11.4's roadmap was known for half a year now. > > Fair enough, we had our chance. > If we find bugs we deem important on bko and can trigger them on opensuse > will you accept such patches or not? We will document the upstream > bugreport and clarify that we could reproduce on opensuse so I hope this > fits your requirement of a well documentated fix. > Sure, you can put up any patch that has a bugzilla id (doesn't even have to be bnc) and was reviewed. What I don't want are branch updates without any review. > > PS: > I hope you don't mind me cc'ing that to opensuse-kde, so just everyone > knows what's what. I just posted with the wrong address. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Where is the application kst?
by Freek de Kruijf 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

When I read the information about the KDE application kst e.g. on http://kst.kde.org, it looks as if there should be an executable /usr/bin/kst. However, when I install kst using the openSUSE repositories, only files in /usr/lib64/ are installed. After installation of the packet kst the command kst can not be found. Is there something missing in the kst packet? I should mention that a kst.pot did exist in the kde.org repository for KDE. However, currently such a file does not exist. I also searched websvn.kde.org and could not find the sources of kst. Very strange that kst.kde.org still exists and also openSUSE does have a kst packet. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Karsten König 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:41:38 schrieb Stephan Kulow: > Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:36:00 schrieb Karsten König: > > openSUSE usually does not take upstreams point updates after release > > anyways, there was an exception for KDE4.3 where an SLE service pack was > > going to ship with a more recent version, I actually liked how that > > turned out, maybe Bille can comment a bit on the extra work this caused, > > if possible. > > > > > Especially for 4.6.1, there's such a large number of fixes in, that > > > basically 11.4 is _already_ outdated if we don't ship 4.6.1. > > Sorry, 11.4's roadmap was known for half a year now. Fair enough, we had our chance. If we find bugs we deem important on bko and can trigger them on opensuse will you accept such patches or not? We will document the upstream bugreport and clarify that we could reproduce on opensuse so I hope this fits your requirement of a well documentated fix. Cheers, Karsten PS: I hope you don't mind me cc'ing that to opensuse-kde, so just everyone knows what's what. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Bug strategy
by Karsten König 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

(cc coolo as I don't know if he is subscribed/reads -kde) http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2011-02/msg00232.html is a useful root for the 4.6.(0|1) discussion that just started. Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 17:22:45 schrieb Sebastian Kügler: > Hey, > > On Thursday, February 17, 2011 13:55:45 Karsten König wrote: > > The timing is a bit of a bummer, 4.6.1 releases on 1st of march while > > opensuse 11.4 goldmaster ist on 3rd, and with the track record of not > > only including bugfixes in point releases I can atleast understand coolos > > decision. > > Would be good to communicate that to the release team. My impression was > that we (as in upstream KDE) have been pretty disciplined in including > only bugfixes, and therefore making the point releases more suitable for > downstream updates. That's the plan yes, but sometimes they also had bugs that weren't there before, I can't remember specifics, but I do remember point updates sometimes having unpleasent consquences, no show stoppers though. h > If that's not the case, we might as well not ship .1 versions and just ask > all distros to cherry-pick their updates from master. That won't make > anybody happy. openSUSE usually does not take upstreams point updates after release anyways, there was an exception for KDE4.3 where an SLE service pack was going to ship with a more recent version, I actually liked how that turned out, maybe Bille can comment a bit on the extra work this caused, if possible. > Especially for 4.6.1, there's such a large number of fixes in, that > basically 11.4 is _already_ outdated if we don't ship 4.6.1. I agree, there is alot of bkos mentioned in the commits and .0 to .1 is propably worth it, but the by current policy it is not an intended step this late in the release cycle and somehow this got overlooked, so we have to deal with the consequences. This can be begging coolo for an exception and maybe risking some last minute release delay or fixing the fallout later, with maybe bad press for the reviews. If we need another strategy to handle kde updates I suggest waiting a few weeks because right now 11.4 is on the plate and closing in fast. Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 18:57:57 schrieb Sven Burmeister: > Is there a way to get a list of all bug numbers that have been fixed since > 4.6.0 came out? I would be happy to feed them one by one into bnc just to > make sure nobody could not have noticed that it is impossible for Will to > do all the work of cherry picking from all those and backporting them + > taking care of the zypp backend + taking care of knm etc. pp. and a waste > of time compared to a branch update. It's a bit more complicated since the migration to git there is no single repo with a single 4.6 branch anymore Take these as an example: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=log&h=refs/heads/KDE/4.6 http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-runtime.git&a=log&h=refs/heads/KDE/4.6 http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdelibs.git&a=log&h=refs/heads/KDE/4.6 The bug descriptions often contain the bko# they fix Cheers, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Misplaced sun shadow in bluemarble wallpaper
by Olav P. 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Hello, After upgrading to KDE 4.6 the bluemarble wallpaper has a misplaced sun shadow. The sun shadow is correct in the marble applicatiion itself, and in KDE 4.5 it was also rendered correctly in the marble wallpaper. Has anyone else seen this? If so, is it a bug or can it be fixed in some setting? Cheers Olav -- Olav P. http://www.twitpic.com/photos/olavpet -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kalarm for kdepim46 crashes
by Stefan Vater 16 Feb '11

16 Feb '11

Hi, I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64 bit) with KDF and kdepim46 repos. Unfortunatelly, kalarm always crashes on startup and almost every time it is started manually. When I delete the ~/.kde4/share/apps/kalarm folder, kalarm seems not to crash the first time I use it. But at least at the first next restart of kde it crashes again. I suppose, it might have to do with the Qt patch needed, which was reported in [1]. But I am not sure. If yes, would it be possible to add a version of qt including this patch to the repos? That improve testing this version a lot ;-) Otherwise, I can also give some more information, file a bug report to kde, if needed. Regards, Stefan [1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-January/004428.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kde menu editor - set icon
by johnm_s2 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

openSUSE 11.4 RC1 KDE - oxygen widget style I spent about 30 minutes trying to figure out how to set the icon for a new menu item, using KDE menu editor... argh!! :D I knew I had done it before, but I couldn't figure out what had changed. Then I happened to mouse over the magic location, and tada a button showed up. Otherwise its totally camouflage. screenshot: http://www.picfront.org/d/842Q Should I report this upstream? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] AI: KPK systray icon
by Martin Schlander 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

As everyone probably knows, KPackageKit is the default updater on 11.4 KDE systems. At the last KDE IRC meeting I got the action item to check if KPackageKit systray icons are "good enough"(tm). My findings are these: KPK will show the same systray icon to notify about all types of patches/updates (security, recommended, optional), and this icon seems to be the 'system-software-update' from Oxygen icons - so not included in KPK itself. Note: You can easily distinguish between patch types in the KPK UI - this is only about the systray icon. It'll look like this: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kpk.png Personally I can easily accept only one icon for all types of patches - but I do think the icon should be a highly visible one that isn't easily overlooked. So what can we do? Option 1: ------------------------------ Do nothing. Accept status quo from upstream. Possibly talk to pinheiro and/or dantti about making the icon more "visible" for future releases. Advantages: No extra work, consistency with other (KPK using) distros like Fedora and Kubuntu (I think, haven't tried). Disadvantage: "Updates available" icon remains easily overlooked. Option 2: ----------------------- We could use an icon from kupdateapplet instead: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_red.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_yellow.png Advantage: Highly "visible" icon, consistent with older openSUSE versions. Disadvantage: Extra work, not consistent with KDE looks and other distros. Option 3: -------------------- We could use a different Oxygen icon - which is more craving of attention. E.g.: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/emblem-important.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/security-medium.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification-bell.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification.png Advantages: Icon is not overlooked, integrates in the look of KDE Disadvantages: Extra work, inconsistent with other distros. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Kwin- Xrender or OpenGL?
by Anshul Jain 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Hi all, I've been trying out KDE 4.6 for the past few weeks since it was released, and to my very pleasant surprise...its been pretty darn stable on my modest Thinkpad SL400c w/ 2GB of RAM and Intel 4500MHD graphics driver. There's one wrinkle and thats Kwin under OpenGL which renders fonts incorrectly for my development environment (LabVIEW) when compositing is turned on. Seems like a regression from Qt 4.6 to 4.7. Also, OpenGL is sluggish and freezes when clicking OK in systemsettings. Xrender on the other hand is rock solid and stable. No problems with font rendering and absolutely no lockups or freezes. Heck, I'd call Kwin+Xrender to be smoother and lighter than Compiz on GNOME under 11.3. My question is, what are the advantages of using OpenGL as compared to Xrender? Is OpenGL any better than Xrender, if so how? Thanks! -Anshul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Kwrite is not the handler for application/x-perl
by Křištof Želechovski 13 Feb '11

13 Feb '11

Kwrite is not the handler for application/x-perl and KSUSEInstall cannot find anything appropriate. == Steps to reproduce == 1. { h2xs -A -n Mytest; } 2. Tell Dolphin to navigate to Mytest. 3. Tell Dolphin to open Makefile.PL . == Actual results == 3. Dolphin is unable to find a handler for "application/x-perl". == Expected results == 3. Dolphin should tell Kwrite to open Makefile.PL . Note: this is only an annoyance, since Kwrite is eventually called when the dialogue box is dismissed. However, Kwrite is perfectly capable of handling Perl code and I can see no reason why it is not registered as a handler for it. Please fix, Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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