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[opensuse-kde] phonon-backend-vlc crashes knotify4 and Amarok on openSUSE 13.2
by Roman Bysh 20 Jan '16

20 Jan '16

Hi all, I submitted a bug report upstream on 2015-11-13 20:45:14 UTC for the phonon-backend-vlc when installed on openSUSE 13.2 crashes kcm-phonon. Ref: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355309 If phonon-backend-vlc is installed the crash is still happening. They have it marked as resolved. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Upcoming changes for KDE users in Tumbleweed
by ianseeks 19 Jan '16

19 Jan '16

On Monday 18 Jan 2016 20:38:10 Bruno Friedmann wrote: > On Monday 18 January 2016 16.01:35 ianseeks wrote: > > On Monday 18 Jan 2016 15:38:26 Wolfgang Bauer wrote: > > > Am Montag, 18. Januar 2016, 13:05:07 schrieb ianseeks: > > > > On Monday 18 Jan 2016 12:46:34 Wolfgang Bauer wrote: > > > > > Am Sonntag, 17. Januar 2016, 18:31:03 schrieb ianseeks: > > > > > > Shouldn't the install process also automatically stop akonadi for > > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > > > No, that's impossible. > > > > > > > > > > The update/install process is running as root, it cannot stop the > > > > > users' > > > > > akonadi(s) that might be running. > > > > > > > > > > Well, it could kill them of course, but that would cause the same > > > > > possible > > > > > problems that not stopping Akonadi before the update manually would > > > > > be > > > > > able > > > > > to cause I think. > > > > > > > > Could it not pop up a warning that says, "please stop akonadi (with > > > > the > > > > example command)...... and press Y when done?" > > > > I think doing this type of user friendly action makes the process more > > > > professional and will hopefully stop a few bug reports > > > > > > No. You have the same problem again. > > > The installation process running as root cannot connect to the users' X > > > or > > > DBUS session. > > > > its a shame that there is no way round it, it makes parts of installation > > process difficult to fully automate > > Well I consider it as administrative tasks. > Now we all know we shouldn't have akonadi running during the update. > > So from an admin point of view it quite simple: ask an user logged to get > out and keep them away from the system man nologin could help. > > Once you're sure there no more user process reunning fire up a zypper up/dup > and it's done. > > Do we really want to have to reboot like some systems to be able to make > an update, not me as far I'm concern. certainly not.. their install process is shit :o) This is a special case that needs migration and update. I would have thought a migration process should cater for dependencies in some way. The problem is that there may be ordinary users (e.g. my gran) who do not subscribe to these lists who will not know about it and will not have a clue how to stop akonadi. The current process is fine for Admins and developers. Perhaps there needs to be a way for a the process to find out which user launched its update session and then check if akonadi is running for that user. Or the update process creates an autostart file that runs the migration/update on log in before akonadi is started (if thats possible, i don;t know). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Upcoming changes for KDE users in Tumbleweed
by Luca Beltrame 17 Jan '16

17 Jan '16

In data domenica 17 gennaio 2016 12:26:30 CET, hai scritto: Hello, > Might be a "Good Idea" (tm!) to post a link to your blog (post) :^) It's at the bottom of the first email in the thread by Raymond. Nevertheless: https://www.dennogumi.org/2016/01/kdepim-changes-in-opensuse-tumbleweed/ -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B

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[opensuse-kde] ~/.kde obsolete with KDE5 ?
by Malte Gell 16 Jan '16

16 Jan '16

Hi there, KDE5 seems to not create a new ~/.kde5 folder. >From previous KDE versions I still have ~/.kde4 and ~/.kde in my home directoy, but they seem not to be used anymore. So, is ~/.kde* now obsolete with KDE5, is everything stored below ~/.config ? Thankx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2?
by stakanov＠freenet.de 15 Jan '16

15 Jan '16

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Emilio Recio > Gesendet: Mi. 13.01.2016 15:21 > An: opensuse-kde , > Betreff: [opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2? > > How long is this version supported? I really don't want to go to Leap just > yet due to 1) my experiences with plasma5/kf5 crashing and 2) all the > other scary stories I hear around the new KDE and 3) system tray missing. > > -e > > The information contained in this transmission contains privileged and confidential information. It is > intended only for the use of the person named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > CAUTION: Intended recipients should NOT use email communication for emergent or urgent health care matters. > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende----- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Emilio Recio > Gesendet: Mi. 13.01.2016 15:21 > An: opensuse-kde , > Betreff: [opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2? > > How long is this version supported? I really don't want to go to Leap just > yet due to 1) my experiences with plasma5/kf5 crashing and 2) all the > other scary stories I hear around the new KDE and 3) system tray missing. > a) what version of kde with plasma 5 did you use. To get an idea about plasma 5 you can use a virtualized leap. The integration for 13.2 was far from perfect and the official version was not plasma 5 but that was more a technology preview. b) what are "all the other scary stories". This is a quite astonishing affirmation. In the first 6 month of any distribution I know, a lot of issues come up. Always. This is due to very personal usage patterns. You may or may not be hit by one of this bugs. This is what release notes are for. They can and should be read BEFORE ANY installation. 90% of the time it iwll not be pertinent to your usage case. So what you write there is really from my point of view a gratuitous FUD. c) system tray is not missing. There are several workaround and patches. I did not find any "system tray missing" here on my notebook. With very few exceptions it works even now better with leap then with 13.2. You may have several issues when doing a new install of 13.2. So if you are installing for the first time: use leap, it is, in my experience right now, absolutely reliable even for mission critical stuff. This is particularly true for first time install because the brand new installation do not have ANY migration issues, yeeeehaaa! So all your scares are gone to a 50% at once. A lot of crashes can come from old system files hanging around. To get an idea when using plasma 5 try to use a brand new user to see if those crashes are migration related. Video drivers: ATI opensource and closed source drivers are good Nvidia: in my experience the noveau are problematic since 4,1 but that should not hit you with leap. Proprietary ones are good. Intel: there are some issues with dolphin crashing. Particularly if using the i915 chipset, like my X201. Still working with leap is enjoyable currently. Yes I did report quite some bugs but nearly all if not all are annoyances. Non of them AFAIR are showstoppers. There are a lot o false stories about leap that I would like to dismantle here and now. Notably: IT IS NOT TRUE that using Leap - you are loosing your hair (not even puberty hair, not true really). - you are getting peritonitis or emphysema (I swear, that is dead wrong). - it does allow you to see the future nor do you see ghosts. (Not true, no "ring" is seen either and the telephone does not ring after seeing the desktop). If you tell us your hardware setting an your exact issue you will find a solution. and a lot of things are there (especially Libreoffice) that work better in leap than in 13.2 --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE wallet migration assistent
by Malte Gell 15 Jan '16

15 Jan '16

Hi there, I´ve been using KDE5 on OS 42.1 for quite some weeks now, but still a KDE wallet migration assistent pops up from time to time. I thought this is a one time procedure to migrate old wallets to new KDE5 wallets, but that migration assistent still appears from time to time. Has the wallet migration not yet completed? Thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Tumbleweed kio_svn missing
by Marc Benstein 13 Jan '16

13 Jan '16

It seems the package kio_svn isn't getting over to Tumbleweed. The package kdesvn requires it and kio_svn is in KDE factory but not in Tumbleweed. I will gladly report this issue on bugzilla if that's the right place to do so. Perhaps I am doing something wrong? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2?
by Emilio Recio 13 Jan '16

13 Jan '16

How long is this version supported? I really don't want to go to Leap just yet due to 1) my experiences with plasma5/kf5 crashing and 2) all the other scary stories I hear around the new KDE and 3) system tray missing. -e The information contained in this transmission contains privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. CAUTION: Intended recipients should NOT use email communication for emergent or urgent health care matters.

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[opensuse-kde] kopete crashes with kdelibs 4.14.14
by Rainer Klier 13 Jan '16

13 Jan '16

hi, kopete is not working any more. running kopete under KDE plamsa 5.5.1 had this behaviour: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355275 now, after updating to KDE plasma 5.5.2 it crashes immediatelly after start. as stated in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355275 a downgrade of kdelibs4 to 4.14.13 should help, but that is not available for tumbleweed. the solution of the above mentionied KDE bug is the new version of kdelibs4 4.14.16 which is also not available for tumbleweed. so, currently kopete is dead..... :-( -- *Rainer Klier* Research & Development, Technical Sales Consultant Namirial GmbH (xyzmo SIGNificant is now Namirial) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde][tw20160108] development menu items required by plasma5 desktop
by Felix Miata 10 Jan '16

10 Jan '16

The main menu has a section "Development". I'm not a developer, so don't want such things as QT 5 Assistant (Document Bro... QT 5 D-Bus Viewer (D-Bus Deb... QT 5 Designer (Interface Desig... cluttering my menu (and why elipses in a menu taking up at most 4% of screen space instead of spelling out whole names to explain what the app is about?). So I tried to remove the libqt5-qttools package to which they (qdbusviewer-qt5 at least) are ascribed. To do that, zypper wants to remove also plasma5-desktop plasma5-session plasma5-workspace Why is development clutter required in the main menu of an ordinary user? Is this purposely coming from upstream? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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