August 2011 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] Removed ntrack dependency from kdebase4-runtime
by Ismail Donmez 17 Aug '11

17 Aug '11

Hi all, Looks like ntrack caused us a lot of troubles and being an optional dependency I removed it from build dependencies of kdebase4-runtime. If it proves to be stable/useful again we can always add it back. Regards. -- İsmail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] 12.1 is around the corner, and I must make my concerns known.
by Roger Luedecke 17 Aug '11

17 Aug '11

To the Green Blooded, The excitement is building as yet another release of our beloved openSUSE is just around the corner. This coming release looks as though it may be yet more exciting than 11.4 was; 11.4 being the distro I run only and place my clients on as well. Last release was a bit rough around the edges at launch, and had issues that shook confidence of new users. Though it brought enormous improvements in speed and stability, I must still worry about the first experience. As you most likely will recall, there were several discrepancies and throwbacks to previous versions that sullied 11.4 upon release. Primarily ones I noticed were the oddity of the DVD using the old Knetwork Manager as opposed to the current plasmoid version that was present in the KDE Live CD version. There was also the matter of the pre 11 series behavior of AppArmor in blocking Samba; this I found was more pronounced in the DVD install. (To this day I can't get Samba to work properly in a DVD install.) Since I am not a developer, and have only a brief familiarity with many of the logistical issues facing a project of this magnitude I will not offer an immediate critique. However as an Ambassador I must emphasize that these sort of anomalies, no matter how technically minor will shake the confidence of someone trying the new release. The things that we may consider minor, a new user will consider to be clues to the overall experience and what to expect; this is especially true for new users coming from Windows. Thus we lose a potential asset to the community in favor of some other distro (usually Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, or Mandriva). Frankly, I would rather we be a bit late on releasing 12.1 than to release it as finished with the same sort of issues 11.4 showed. 11.4 was a grand milestone, creating enormous buzz with its massive improvements. 11.4 launched openSUSE to a new height of interest and popularity, and with that in consideration we must be careful to not put off the new users. Further, openSUSE has long been known as the flagship for KDE and as such many people will be looking to us for an alternative to the much disliked Gnome3 and Unity. Sincerely, Roger openSUSE Ambassador P.S. In this section I wanted to raise some questions, critiques, and a small wishlist. As this is less important by far I have placed it where it is. The odd discrepancies in the DVD vs LiveCD version leads me to wonder where there was some sort of disconnect between teams. I further wonder why there was not a central unified repository for the two versions, as I imagine that would have helped remove discrepancies. Why did this occur and how can it be prevented? Though I know its late in the game to make a lot of changes to the final product, this is my personal wishlist of things to see in future openSUSE (Gnome team disregard KDE specific things): 1. Have a simple default configuration for Samba, like in Ubuntu where it simply works out of the box. a. Fix AppArmor so it isn't battling with Samba constantly. 2. AppArmor desktop notifier. It would be nice for the user to know when AppArmor blocks something, and be able to click straight through to the Profile Update wizard. But even somethin as simple as a system announcement would be superior and be picked up by the KDE notification system. 3. Maintain more current versions of some neglected packages, especially WINE. Rekonq being the other package I would have liked to see updated. 4. Amarok is known as one of the most feature rich players in all of Linux. However, it often suffers from bugs that crash it constantly, or degrade its performance. Also its interface suffers from not using common conventions, and thus confounds new users. I recommend replacing it with Clementine as it is more stable and has a friendlier interface, and is yet KDE native. 5: There has been some talk about replacing the YaST Printer module with a KDE one in userspace. Frankly I think this is a terrible idea as YaST is the only tool on any platform that has actually made configuration of the god-forsaken yet popular HP AllInOne devices simple. Thank you for your time and consideration. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kmail 4.7 broken for me
by Andreas Jaeger 15 Aug '11

15 Aug '11

With kmail 4.7 I get on two systems that kmail aborts since: "Failed to fetch the resource collection" Any ideas? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Kmail 1.13.7 not messages into folders
by Bob Williams 15 Aug '11

15 Aug '11

Kmail won't move incoming mail from my IMAP account server into a subfolder, but it does apply the filter when prompted to do so manually. The error message is Error while uploading message Could not upload the message dated Today 01:27:18 from Simon Cropper <scropper(a)botanicusaustralia.com.au> with subject "Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [FOLLOW-UP; CAUSE IDENTIFIED]" to the server. The destination folder was: Gradwell/LibreOffice-users. The server reported: Append completed. Am I failing to set something somewhere? Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.4 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop, KDE 4.7.0 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Default Packages
by Steven Sroka 15 Aug '11

15 Aug '11

I have a few questions regarding some packages in openSUSE 12.1 KDE. 1) What are the difference between the "KDE4 Desktop Environment" and "KDE4 Base System" patterns? -> The two seem similar because there are important/non-important KDE packages in both patterns. -> For example, I naturally figured "KDE4 Base System" would only have the packages that are core to KDE on openSUSE. Notice I say KDE on openSUSE because openSUSE might have certain packages that are *expected* to be installed when KDE is used as the main DE, but those same packages may not be dependencies. And I originally thought "KDE4 Desktop Environment" simply housed all other KDE specific packages. 2) Are kscd and gimp needed as part of the default install? -> Given the decline of CD's (including music CD's), and that the kscd code is essentially unmaintained, it probably isn't usually to provide it. Also, Amarok can play CD's along with many other music players. -> Gimp is a gtk based application - a good one - but still a gtk app. Would Krita not be a better KDE alternative? See the features of both at the bottom. Their would easily be room on the LiveCD if gimp was replaced: Krita with dependencies and recommendations: ~47 MB Gimp with dependencies and recommendations (including sane): 90+ MB There would actually be 40MB of extra space left over for other packages that people might need. Anyways, sorry for the rant. I simply like to look over the smaller details since things like these are lower on the priority list for others during development. Features: http://krita.org/features http://www.gimp.org/features/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Project patterns
by todd rme 14 Aug '11

14 Aug '11

I am in the process of removing the base packages from the various KDE projects (kdeutils, kdegames, kdemultimedia, etc). These will be replaced by basic documentation packages or just merged into other packages. I was told a while ago that these are not really the proper way to install these groups of packages, and instead patterns should be used. So, I was wondering if we should go ahead an make patterns for each of these groups. There is already a games patterns, but there isn't one of the others. I would be willing to do so, but I do not the best way. Is it possible with the web interface or do I have to use the command-line interface? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] policikit and the hell
by Alin Marin Elena 12 Aug '11

12 Aug '11

Hi All, policikit drives me crazy lately... i am on kde unstable like... system and any operation that requires authorisation I cannot do mainly due to the fact that regardless of what password I supply to policicykit (user or root) it does not accept it... keeps asking me for password. any thoughts? I would prefer not to delete the presets supplied or to overwrite them by local settings to stop asking me for password... Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! _____________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________

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[opensuse-kde] Who likes to use KDE activities?
by Malte Gell 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

Is there someone who likes the concept of KDE activities? I´m not sure yet, whether I really find it useful or not. I play with it and I find it a nice extension to the virtual desktop concept, but I still don´t know if I really will use it regularly. Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] nepomuk spamming .xsession-errors
by Basil Chupin 11 Aug '11

11 Aug '11

On 02/08/11 16:43, Sven Burmeister wrote: > Am Dienstag, 2. August 2011, 00:49:30 schrieb Sven Burmeister: >> [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(6678)" Soprano: >> "SQLExecDirect failed on query 'sparql select distinct ?r ?reqProp1 where { >> { { ?r<http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/03/22/nmo#to> ?v2 . >> ?v2 >> <http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/03/22/nco#hasEmailAddress> >> ?v3 . ?v3<http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/2007/03/22/' (iODBC >> Error: [OpenLink][Virtuoso iODBC Driver][Virtuoso Server]SQ074: Line 1: >> SP030: SPARQL compiler, line 1: syntax error at '<' before 'http:' at '' >> immediately before end of statement)" >> >> This happens to me with the packages from KDF. > If I am not mistaken it is kmail2 that causes this. It also happens when > indexing is suspended (nepomuk enabled), so I guess it's the feeders that > issue those notifications. > > Sven What exactly is "kmail2"? You haven't read my response to your earlier message which I posted some 7 hours ago, right? I don't use "kmail2" - what ever that is - or have every used any variant of this name in my life nor do I have nepomuck enabled - but get (a) strange notification(s) message(s) which I thought would be of some assistance to you. Good luck. BC -- Paradise is like Hell and neither is too far from you because both are creations of your mind and therefore both are already inside you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] graphical problems with Firefox and Thunderbird since KDE4.7 update
by Fabian Ohde 09 Aug '11

09 Aug '11

Hello Since I updated (in the morning) KDE4.6 to KDE4.7 I have graphical problems with Firefox and Thunderbird. See the pictures: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/bild1f.png/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/bild2f.png/ other GTK apps are not affected (like gimp, chrome, libreoffice). the gtk style is oxygen-gtk My system: opensuSUSE 11.3 x86_64 KDE4.7.0 Nvidia Geforce 9800GT with NVIDIA 270.41.06 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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