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[opensuse-kde] Regarding KDE:KDE4:Playground
by Stephan Kleine 27 Jul '10

27 Jul '10

Hi guys, I'm sorry for not attending yesterdays meeting but after some talk in -kde I realized you want to replace KDE:KDE4:Playground with something like KDE:Unstable:Playground. IMHO that is plain wrong for two reasons: 1. The URL implies some association with :Unstable which is just wrong. 2. It is simply under the wrong namespace. We created "KDE:Extra" for "community" maintained packages and the stuff in :Playground is either a SVN snapshot from :Extra or :Distro:Factory. But still it is _only_ community maintained! IMHO the :Playground stuff should therefore be under a namespace that makes it explicitly clear that those packages are _only_ community maintained. Further them being bellow KDE:Unstable gives the wrong intention since those packages have _nothing_ to do with the :Unstable project. Could you please therefore reconsider your decision and use "KDE:Extra:Playground" instead? This way it would be clear that anything bellow :Extra is community maintained and :Playground speaks for itself but it doesn't imply any relationships to :Unstable which are simply not valid. Personally I certainly couldn't care less since I'll be able to select the repos I need but since the purpose of all that renaming fuss is to create a more "reasonable" layout I beg you to put the :Playground stuff bellow :Extra since it is _only_ maintained by the community and has nothing to do with the :Unstable repo. Therefore please reconsider your decision. regards, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: [opensuse-kde] Re: upgrading to KDE unstable on oS 11.3
by phanisvara das 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

sorry, i accidentally sent this message to will stephenson instead of the list; didn't set up kmail yet... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phanisvara das <phani00(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse-kde] Re: upgrading to KDE unstable on oS 11.3 To: Will Stephenson <wstephenson(a)suse.de> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Will Stephenson <wstephenson(a)suse.de> wrote: > On Sunday 25 July 2010 23:57:25 phanisvara das wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 12:42 +0530, phanisvara das wrote: >> > i tried to install KDE unstable repos again, but any zypper dup (or the >> > yast equivalent) with KDE unstable enabled wants to downgrade a hell of >> > a lot of packages, switch to "inferior" 586 architecture for most of the >> > others, and generally create havoc with my installation, i'm afraid. >> >> upgrading to KDE-factory instead of unstable i get the result expected: >> lots of vendor changes, but no downgrading or architecture change. >> probably wasn't a good idea to go for unstable, since soon (november i >> think) KDE-factory is going to become 4.6--that's as far ahead as i want >> to go, actually. > > Correct, KDE:Unstable:SC (fka KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Desktop) currently contains > the very first snapshots of what will be 4.6, so these are pants-on-fire > unstable atm. if anybody else wants to use KDE 4.5 with oS 11.3, you should read the following. not knowing this earlier cost me like one day and most of a night before i got it finally working. KDE 4.5 (factory) installs ok, but once i rebooted, i couldn't log into KDE anymore. a box pops up, saying "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation," dropping me back to the kdm login. in .xsession-errors some more errors show up, indicating an auth.-file with different ownership than KDE expected. even deleting .kde4 or creating a new user acct. didn't help. google found a lot of confused forum topics, none of them offering real help--until i came across a forum post at forums.opensuse.org, where somebody recommended running zypper dup after installing KDE 4.5, and this worked for the OP. since i considered my (3rd) installation of 11.3 messed up already, i ran zypper dup with all repos enabled--something i don't normally do. i have no real idea how zypper dup decides what to do with different repos enbled, but after running the command, i can log into KDE again, and everything works as it should. KDE is still at 4.4.95, and whatever caused the ksmserver error is gone. so in order to use KDE 4.5 with 11.3, the following process works: 1. install KDE factory via one-click or whatever; 2. everything goes down the drain; 3. run zypper dup with all repos (OSS, non-OSS, update, and KDE factory) enabled and voila, everything works fine. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] upgrading to KDE unstable on oS 11.3
by phanisvara das 26 Jul '10

26 Jul '10

for the last few months on 11.2 i've been using KDE unstable and was quite happy with it. still, for my working install. it's a bit risky, so now i got the idea to use stable GNOME, which i checked out in 11.3 after a long time and sort of like--specially with KDE app's like konqueror, kmail, kdevelop, etc. i tried to install KDE unstable repos again, but any zypper dup (or the yast equivalent) with KDE unstable enabled wants to downgrade a hell of a lot of packages, switch to "inferior" 586 architecture for most of the others, and generally create havoc with my installation, i'm afraid. i'm sick at present, headache, fever, and hope that's the reason for not getting my head around this. (most likely it's old age taking it's toll, but one can keep hoping...) is there something obvious i'm missing here, or are KDE unstable repos still in the process of getting ready for 11.3? thanks for any suggestions, -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Mailinglist new Message feature broken ?
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 23 Jul '10

23 Jul '10

Hello, is this feature is broken? openSUSE KMAIL 1.13.5 I can't open a new Window for a new Message when I click with the Mouse on a Folder which is declared as Mailing-list! -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE Bug Triage
by Javier Llorente 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Hello everybody, I would like to know which days are better for you to organize a KDE bug triage. The main idea is to categorize KDE bugs in the wiki (ie: by difficulty), announce the bug triage (ie: next weekend) and start reviewing those bugs. Ideally, we would have some experienced openSUSE/KDE people helping the less experienced in #opensuse-kde and/or opensuse-kde mailinglist. Please take into account that this is my first time organizing a bug triage, so don't hesitate to add your feedback here ;-) Thanks, -- Javier Llorente

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[opensuse-kde] KDE Factory warning
by Martin Schlander 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Hey Since using the KDE Factory repository will most likely be a rather bumpy ride in the coming months, because of 11.3+1 skipping KDE 4.5 and getting 4.6, I thought it was best to warn people now, when a lot of people are tempted to upgrade to 4.4.5. The below text is copied from my blog. ======================================= With openSUSE 11.3 less than a week away, soon it’ll be time to think about 11.3+1 which will be released in March 2011 with KDE SC 4.6. This should interest people using the KDE Factory repository a great deal, because it means that Factory should move to KDE SC 4.5 RC very shortly, and in November it will move to KDE SC 4.6 Beta. Leaving users with no choice other than using 4.6 Beta or downgrading to 4.4.4 which will be the version officially supported in 11.3 and available in the KDE Stable repository. In other words, if you don’t wish to use KDE SC 4.6 Beta in November, don’t use the KDE Factory repository! Switch to the KDE Stable repository, which already has 4.4.4. Consider yourself warned. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:Extra and KDE:UpdatedApps
by Lubos Lunak 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Hello, last IRC meeting we agreed on most new KDE repositories [*], I have updated http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/RepositoryRenaming with to match the setup we've agreed on and later I'll update the still pending issues (the unstable ones). However, since 11.3 is almost here, we should get KDE:Extra and KDE:UpdatedApps into shape. I'll create a bugreport asking for updating the community repo list. I've also created http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Extra_Repository and http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/UpdatedApps_Repository which should provide all information about the repos. Note that 'osc setlinkrev' currently seems to be broken, so KDE:UpdatedApps currently points to latest versions in KDE:Distro:Factory. KDE:UpdatedApps should be now populated with everything from KDE:Distro:Factory that makes sense there, as already said setlinkrev doesn't work, but it could perhaps use some work to make some apps build on older distros, as feasible. There is a problem with defining what to do with build requirements. For example, Amarok requires taglib-extras, which requires taglib, which is provided in a sufficiently recent version only on 11.3, older repos don't build. Taglib-extras is more or less Amarok stuff, so including it there is fine. But taglib is a generic library not maintained by us, so it is a question if it is ok to include a newer version in KDE:UpdatedApps. One of the problems here is that since the repo is in the yast2 community list, potentionally a number of people can add it and end up with a version of the library that is not officially maintained on their distribution, and this might cause trouble (to the packager of it, and possibly even with the actual usage). Suggestions for how to handle such cases are welcome. KDE:Extra is set up, but is currently almost empty. Feel free to copypac packages from KDE:KDE4:Community which make sense and will be maintained. If you want to maintain something in KDE:Extra (and do not want to maintain the repo as a whole), see http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Extra_Repository for details (do submit requests or ask for maintainership for a specific package). I've added maintainers to the repos for which I could find a record of them saying they'd want to become one, but I'm sure I missed several, so if you've said in the past you would help maintain the repo and you're not set up yes, just say here or on IRC. [*] Which are actually called projects in osc and webui. Why do we call them repositories? -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Desktop folder disappeared in last update and menu bar without icons
by Freek de Kruijf 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

I use openSUSE 11.2 and have the following KDE repositories: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Playground/openSUS… http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Distro%3a/Factory/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Community/openSUSE… The latest update made my Desktop folder on the Destop disappear. Restoring this folder on the Desktop got it back. With widgets unlocked, while hoovering on it, I get a menu bar on the side, however without any icons - the X for close/remove or the wrench for a dialog with settings, etc. Guessing the location of these icons makes it possible to perform these functions. openSUSE bug or KDE bug? -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] YaST2 conflicts KDE 4.4.4 and openSUSE 11.2 64bit
by Jan Ritzerfeld 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Hey! I am trying to install KDE 4.4.4 from the repository for openSUSE 11.2 (64bit). YaST reports a conflict. IMHO, it tells me that there is no libpulse- mainloop-glib0-32bit: libphonon4-32bit-4.4.2-2.1.x86_64 requires libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.21-1.1.1.i586[http-download.opensuse.org- fe279584] libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.21-1.2.1.i586[http-download.opensuse.org-fe279584] libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.19-2.3.i586[repo-oss] [ ] break libphonon4-32bit by ignoring some of its dependencies [ ] install libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.21-1.2.1.i586 despite the inferior architecture [ ] do not install libphonon4-32bit-4.4.2-2.1.x86_64 Gruß Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Skype doesn't work in KDE:Factory
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

Hello Mates, i'm using oS 11.3 with KDE 4.4.93 from KDE:Factory. If i'm starting skype i can see the GUI but then it breaks. gdb says: [New Thread 0xf579fb70 (LWP 11578)] [New Thread 0xf571eb70 (LWP 11579)] [New Thread 0xf569db70 (LWP 11580)] [New Thread 0xf561cb70 (LWP 11581)] [New Thread 0xf4e1bb70 (LWP 11582)] [Thread 0xf4e1bb70 (LWP 11582) exited] [Thread 0xf561cb70 (LWP 11581) exited] [New Thread 0xf461ab70 (LWP 11583)] [New Thread 0xf561cb70 (LWP 11584)] [Thread 0xf561cb70 (LWP 11584) exited] [New Thread 0xf4599b70 (LWP 11585)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 0xf461ab70 (LWP 11583)] 0xf60fa49b in readdir () from /lib/libc.so.6 Can anyone reproduce it? Or have anyone an idea how to fix this? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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