March 2010 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] Call for testing: on-demand package installation
by Lubos Lunak 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

Hello, in OBS in home:llunak:ksuseinstall there are packages branched from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop that have one experimental feature added: When a needed package is not installed, the user is offered its installation. Currently there is support for debuginfo packages, applications that can open a specific file type if none is installed and multimedia codecs for Amarok. The plan is that this feature makes it into 11.3, so please test and provide feedback. The things I'm especially interested in: - the UI and the workflow could quite possibly be improved (currently it uses Yast modules to save me a lot of work, and it's also done this way because of a certain catch mentioned below). So, imagine you are Joe User the Clueless who's just installed 11.3 and think about how this would or would not work and how it could be improved. The catch here is that this is not only a technical problem but also a legal :(. This can quite easily help with the problem of installing packages that cannot be shipped as a part of openSUSE because of various stupid patent stuff etc. The problem is that we should not even encourage too much usage of such packages. Don't ask what that means exactly, because I don't know, and probably not even lawyers know for sure, but something like "MP3 support is missing, press Yes to install it from Packman" is simply very unlikely to make it past our lawyers. I think the guideline could be that the user has to know it's an extra and that it's not part of openSUSE, and thus has to make at least some effort, not just confirm a dialog. There is a reason why adding community repositories in Yast fetches a list of those from a 3rd party site and knows nothing else than the URL of that list. Yes, this all sucks. - there could be more places where this could help a lot, either by saving the default installation size by not installing packages that most users wouldn't use, or by handling something where such on-demand installation would be helpful to many users. From 11.2 the Nepomuk/Strigi config module comes to mind - we had it disabled by default and some parts were not installed, so enabling it required not only flipping the checkbox but also installing something. I am not going to patch every single place in KDE where an optional package could be possibly missing, but it shouldn't be difficult to handle some mores places where it makes a difference, if you know such cases. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Request to have sysinfo fixed for openSUSE 11.3
by Roman Bysh 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

Hi all, I am checking to see if sysinfo will be fixed by the time openSUSE 11.3 is released in July 2010. An update to KDE Platform Version 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2) "release 231" was done on openSUSE 11.2 today. It is still broken. The Driver field shows "Unknown" rather than the Nvidia driver version number. OpenSUSE Milestone 4 sysinfo is also broken. Any thoughts? Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] System load viewer not working..
by Daniele 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Hi all, I just upgraded my 11.2 to kde 4.4.1, so far so good.. Only the plasmoid System load viewer does not work, It always shows cpu usage at 100%. In the panel it shows 100% in both the bar and in the tooltip. On the desktop, the cpu bar does not appear but the tooltip still shows 100%. Known bug ? It worths a bugreport ? It's an opensuse or upstream issue ? Thanks. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 1 March, 17:00 UTC
by Will Stephenson 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

*** Europe is on summer time now! That means the meeting is probably an hour later than normal for Europeans! The following meeting, 15 April, will be at 1600UTC/1800CEST *** The next openSUSE KDE Team Meeting will take place tomorrow, 2010-04-01 at 1700 UTC The date and time in your timezone: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=1&month=4&year=201… For discussion this week: try MeetBot again (Meetings/About) OBS Repo policies - e.g. (when) should betas be allowed in Community/Factory/Backports etc. Default configuration of nepomuk/strigi, dolphin search toolbar in 11.3 Getting KDE meetings in news.o.o calendar Status reports Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=1&month=4&year=201… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join in and participate! Will Stephenson -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] factory missing pulseaudio
by Marc Benstein 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

I'm using KKFD and pulseaudio has been missing from the sound system configuration since 4.4.0. Now, my intel (whatever) fails back to " device." on startup. I seem to be failing back to something because everything is working fine after that. I'm using the xine backend. What happened to pulseaudio in the sound system configuration? Pulseaudio is the only why I can get multiple applications to play sounds at the same time. Thanks -- Marc Benstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Fix for bug, but only for KDE SC 4.5 releasing
by Rastislav Krupanský 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi. Fix for the upstream bug 219709 (also reported in bugzilla - 591655) is ready for KDE SC 4.5 releasing. Afaik, openSUSE 11.3 shouldn´t include KDE SC 4.5. So, is any way how could you include this fix for stable release 4.4.x also in final 11.3? It´s nonsense when the fix already exist, but only for 4.5 releasing and won´t be backported. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] synaptiks crash in systemsettings
by Thomas Leineweber 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hello, when the synaptiks package from KKFD is installed in my 11.2 system, and I start the touchpad configuration within the system-settings, the synaptiks-daemon crashes. This is shown in bko 226005 and http://bitbucket.org/lunar/synaptiks/issue/32 . The last link says that this is fixed within the KDE SVN. I think I have identified the corresponding revision. It is rev 1097582. In order to verify this, I have created a backport of this patch in my obs-project home:leineweb:branches:KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop I have no crashes anymore with this patch, but I'd like someone else to verify this patch before I create a submitreq to fix this in KKFD. Best regards, Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-kernel] Kernel 2.6.34-rc2 hangs on one of three systems
by Johannes Obermayr 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

> Status update: > > I installed recent kernel-vanilla yesterday first time and it has runned without any problems for over 24 hours now. > > Only openSUSE patched kernel flavors have problems ... > > Johannes Sorry wrong list ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-kernel] Kernel 2.6.34-rc2 hangs on one of three systems
by Johannes Obermayr 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Status update: I installed recent kernel-vanilla yesterday first time and it has runned without any problems for over 24 hours now. Only openSUSE patched kernel flavors have problems ... Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] mic boost
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Hello Mates, in older Versions of kmix i had an option "mic boost +20db". In the actual 3.6 i don't find it. Must i enable this manually? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kmix patch
by Mariusz Fik 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi, Kmix looks really ugly in KDE 4.3 series. A patch fixing it was committed into 4.4 tree. Since KDE 4.3.5 is in update repo, is there any chance to apply this patch to our KDE 4.3.5? http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2328/ -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik, openSUSE Community Member

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop: publishing disabled
by Dirk Müller 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi, I've disabled publishing to finish upload of KDE 4.4.2 tarballs (to be released mid next-week). Greetings, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Community Discussion - KDE Edition
by Andrew Wafaa 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Aloha oh wondrous KDE Community, Some may have noticed my blog posts trying to engage the wider openSUSE Community in discussion on ways of improving how we, the openSUSE Community, work and play. The shotgun approach of hitting the whole Community seems to be going a bit slow, so I thought I would try a different approach :-) So basically I'm looking to see what you the KDE Community feel is missing, an issue, could be improved etc. Also crucially how do you think any of the issues can be resolved. As I mentioned in my blog posts, I am looking for a discussion and not a flame war. I am not in any power to resolve any issue that are present, but I do feel that we already have the tools at hand to fix most that we encounter. I will however put my noisy voice to as much use as possible and try and help out where I can. I do feel that sometimes we just shrug our shoulders and carry on regardless, and think "why bother we aren't going to get any help". If we don't make a sound case for why & how we need help there is no chance we will. So this is the first step in getting that help - defining what and how. Please help me and yourselves work out how best to improve life within openSUSE. If people would rather not make their concerns etc public, please feel free to contact me directly. What I do ask is that we please try and keep things on topic, calm and pleasant. Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. PGP: 0x3A36312F openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: openoffice status bar buttons invisible
by John King 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Sven Burmeister wrote: > Am Freitag, 26. März 2010 10:16:12 schrieb John King: >> kde 4.3.5 on opensuse 11.2, openoffice 3.2.0 from opensuse repository >> >> Following a recent update (though I can't specify exactly when) I've >> noticed that the buttons on the openoffice status bar at the bottom are >> invisible. The status bar itself shows but only the shape of the buttons >> is visible. Clicking on the blank buttons will call up the appropriate >> menu, and sometimes brings out the button text. Also changing the kde >> theme will sometimes reveal some, but not all of the buttons, though in >> some cases will hide their outlines completely. Similarly, changing the >> openoffice icon size and style in the options menu sometimes reveals the >> button text or hides the buttons. >> >> This problem doesn't seem to exist on a machine running gnome, so I >> assume it's kde related. >> >> Can anyone confirm this behaviour? > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561170 > > Please add you comment to the bug. Maybe that changes something regarding > the OO mantainers at novell. > > Sven Comment added to bug report. After reading the bug report, I tried two experiments, making changes to ~/.profile 1 adding export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde4 to the profile doesn't make any difference, the button text is invisible. but 2 adding export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde to the profile reveals all the buttons on the status bar. John johnmking_uk(a)yahoo.co.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] New phonon always expects pulseaudio (with workaround)
by Tejas Guruswamy 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

On 26/03/10 07:34, Per Osbäck wrote: > I'm not seeing this on my machine though I run factory with libpulse0 0.9.21 > but without pulseaudio. > > rpm -q libpulse0 > > does that give you 0.9.19 or nothing? > These are the problematic package versions I had > rpm -qa | grep pulse libpulse0-0.9.21-1.2.1.x86_64 libxine1-pulse-1.1.18.1-1.pm.37.2.x86_64 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.21-1.2.1.x86_64 > rpm -qa | grep phonon libphonon4-4.4.0-39.1.x86_64 phonon-backend-xine-4.4.0-41.1.x86_64 phonon-4.4.0-39.1.x86_64 from KKFD > There is also a reworked patch for phonon that you could try out if you time: > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio:/phonon/… > > try without the _export_ > With your phonon-4.4.0-pulse-connection-rejig.patch, phonon works with and without PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE. Looks like that's solved it. Thanks! I'll send this back to the list so people are aware. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openoffice status bar buttons invisible
by John King 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

kde 4.3.5 on opensuse 11.2, openoffice 3.2.0 from opensuse repository Following a recent update (though I can't specify exactly when) I've noticed that the buttons on the openoffice status bar at the bottom are invisible. The status bar itself shows but only the shape of the buttons is visible. Clicking on the blank buttons will call up the appropriate menu, and sometimes brings out the button text. Also changing the kde theme will sometimes reveal some, but not all of the buttons, though in some cases will hide their outlines completely. Similarly, changing the openoffice icon size and style in the options menu sometimes reveals the button text or hides the buttons. This problem doesn't seem to exist on a machine running gnome, so I assume it's kde related. Can anyone confirm this behaviour? John johnmking_uk(a)yahoo.co.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] New phonon always expects pulseaudio (with workaround)
by Tejas Guruswamy 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Hi all, After the latest updates from 11.2 / KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop, I had some problems with phonon ... I don't use pulseaudio or even have it installed on this machine. But after the latest KDE4.4 update applications trying to use phonon were hanging, apparently on detecting PulseAudio support. Even the control module didn't work. What seems to be happening is that now phonon is compiled with pulseaudio, it seems to *always expect* pulseaudio to be present, or hangs (no crash, just an infinite block). Which sucks for those of us who aren't using pulseaudio. Thankfully there is a workaround (after tracking down the problem and analysing the relevant sources) which is to set the following export PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1 For now this works, but is the behaviour we want as default? If so, can we integrate this workaround somehow into the relevant packages? (e.g. in setup-pulseaudio) Forgive me if I'm just being dense and this was all obvious, I didn't see any mention of this in any of the recent threads discussing KDE4.4 / pulseaudio. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Adding KDE meetings also to Meetings/Archives
by Lubos Lunak 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Hello, it's been brought to my attention that there is a wiki page http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Archive where all meeting minutes/transcripts are archived. I will update http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/Managing to say that the minutes and transcript should be also added to that page, but it would be nice to have also all already past KDE meetings there (there are currently only few past meetings). Would somebody update the Meetings/Archive page to link to all KDE meetings? I'd assume it's just a bit of scripting on the wiki page source or a little of manual copy&pasting. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Konqueror does not want to open kmz files
by Richard Bos 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Hi, I've a problem with konqueror, the app does not automatically use Google Earth when I click on a link that refers to a kmz file. The details of my problem: Let's start what is working: - if a file on disk is a .kmz file konqueror opens the file with Google Earth. (this is e.g. a kmz file that was downloaded from the internet and stored in /tmp) - If I right click on a link on a webpage refering to a .kmz file, the context menu contains a reference to Google Earth. When using that reference GE opens the link. What's not working: - Clicking on a link refering to a kmz file. E.g. on this page: http://www.kmzlinks.com/?offset=1&group= Click Now konqueror offers me: 'save as', 'open with' and cancel. Or when I right click on the link, the context menu offers me to open the link with e.g. kate, kwrite, OO.org writer, and other editors, but no GE :( Why is that? I've *kmz files associated with Google Earth.... For example in $HOME/.local/share/mime/application/vnd.google-earth.kmz.xml .kde4/share> cat ./mimelnk/application/vnd.google-earth.kmz.desktop [Desktop Entry] # Installed by xdg-mime from googleearth-mimetypes.xml Type=MimeType MimeType=application/vnd.google-earth.kmz Icon=application-vnd.google-earth.kmz Comment=Keyhole Markup Language archive Patterns=*.kmz; In /usr/share/applications/ there is ./googleearth.desktop The last files that are kmz related I know are located in: /usr/share/mime # find | grep google ./packages/googleearth-mimetypes.xml ./application/vnd.google-earth.kmz.xml ./application/vnd.google-earth.kml+xml.xml Shouldn't this be sufficient for konqueror to open kmz files automatically? At firefox offers to open the links with GE, konqueror should be able to do that too, isn't it??? -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] problem with the media key
by CP Hennessy 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, My base system is opensuse 11.2 but I've made a "few" updates : - KDE4.4 - X11 from /repositories/X11%3a/XOrg/openSUSE_11.2/ - and kernel 2.6.33 I have very few problems with this. However one really annoying one is the media keys to play/pause, stop, etc which do not cause any action. This was working before the update(s) above. I can assign the MediaPlay custom key in amarok in the global shortcuts (i.e. when I click on "None" option and then use the "MediaPlay" key it is accepted. However either the application never receives the key or it ignores it. I tried other apps and had the same results. Using "xev" I can see that the key being returned is XF86AudioPlay. I've attached a small pyqt4 script which runs and shows the comparrison with the QT "Media" key which runs successfully on my Dell laptop. But still the apps do not recognise the key. Can anyone give me any hint how I can figure this out ? Thanks, CPH

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20100318
by Lubos Lunak 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

See http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/ for futher details. === Old AIs === * test oxygen-modulecule (everybody) ** AI: import oxygen-molecule to KKFD, submit to factory, set as default (llunak) * InitalZero to submitrequest kaffeine ** AI: ask initialZero about kaffeine (wstephenson) === Status Report === * KDE netboot reference project ** http://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/03/17/the-kde-plasma-reference/ etc. === On-demand Package Installation === * experimental support for 11.3 to detect missing applications, debuginfo, codecs, etc. and ask for installing them automatically * see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-03/msg00138.html for details * testing and feedback is welcome === Q&A, Misc === * inclusion of .iso preview service menu ** http://osdir.com/ml/kde-devel/2010-01/msg00149.html ** submit request for KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop should be created, or a bugreport ** AI: make a SR for iso preview ( javier_ ) === Action Items === * import oxygen-molecule to KKFD, submit to factory, set as default (llunak) * ask initialZero about kaffeine (wstephenson) * make a SR for iso preview ( javier_ ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 18th March, 17:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 18th March, at 17:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * on-demand package installation * old action items * status report * calls for testing * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=18&month=3&year=20… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] synaptiks on openSUSE 11.3
by Andi Sugandi 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi Listmates, I could not tap the touchpad of Acer Aspire 5620 on openSUSE 11.3 Mx (it works on openSUSE 11.2 though), but worked nice with synaptiks installed (from KKFD repository). Will the package be included in the 11.3 public release? Best regards, -- Andi Sugandi (Bandung) openSUSE Ambassador http://en.opensuse.org/User:Andisugandi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Rekonq on openSUSE
by Markus 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Hi. To whoever created the Rekonq package in KDE/Community: You forgot to package the language files. :-) Bye, Markus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Must be something wrong with 'screensaver-mode' anyway...
by Oddball 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

As i now left the newly configured desktop alone, to write and read mail, on another machine, and making some food. Returning after about 15-20 minutes, i found the desktop in a black screen. Moving mouse, or hitting 'shift' on the keyboard established nothing... I had to 'reset' with the button.... Is this known, or could it be realated to only 512MB ram? (Swap 750MB), or a vga-card: ATI RV250 lf, with only 64mb video-ram on it? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.33-rc6-2-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-SFN1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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