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[opensuse-kde] KDE repos for Leap 15.2
by Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 22 Jul '20

22 Jul '20

Hi, It's really necessary to add all 3 repos (Qt5, Frameworks and Applications) on Leap 15.2? For 15.1 I understand, Qt was at a lower version which is not the case anymore. Regards, Luiz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Survey on changes of Plasma defaults: XWayland, xf86-input-synaptics
by Fabian Vogt 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

Hi, we are considering a few changes in the defaults offered by the KDE Plasma and related packages. If you have a touchpad or use any of the Plasma Wayland sessions, they will likely have an impact on your workflow, so we'd like to hear your feedback before committing to anything. Let us know! Offer only "Full Wayland" instead of both "Xwayland" / "Full Wayland" sessions ---------- To ease the transition into a Plasma Wayland session, it's configured that Qt and GTK applications prefer XCB over native Wayland: in other words, Xwayland is used for most applications instead of the native Wayland client implementations. This is what the "Plasma (Wayland)" session does, which is referred to here as "Xwayland" session for clarity. This means that some benefits of Wayland, like isolation of clients and support for per-monitor scaling (mixed-DPI setups), are missing. To mitigate that, there is a second session, called "Full Wayland", which forces both Qt and GTK applications to use their native Wayland client implementation again. Now there is a discussion upstream where it was requested that this split and GTK/Qt behaviour difference compared to other distros should be dropped: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/85 The arguments here are that this is not appropriate for developers and that most of the issues worked around by the Xwayland session are fixed meanwhile. So far we have read about both sides, some which wouldn't be able to use the Plasma Wayland session without the Xwayland setup and some which have a better experience with the "Full Wayland" session. Arguments pro Full Wayland: - Scaling works properly (including per-output scaling) - More consistent application behaviour (assuming that they can speak wayland natively) - More isolation between applications - ...? Arguments pro Xwayland: - Upstream, Qt does not consider qtwayland to be a good default in GNOME sessions due to various compatibility issues and so it explicitly uses the fallback to XCB there (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-68619) - It avoids certain incompatibilities like with Yakuake and stability issues, like with KMail (and other users of WebEngine) - ...? I'd argue that developers are able to switch to the "Full Wayland" kind of session themselves. If the "Full Wayland" session is perfectly usable by those who use the "Xwayland" session currently, there's no reason to keep this split anymore though. Otherwise, please tell us what makes the "Full Wayland" session a worse experience. Note that this won't touch the Xorg session at all: it'll stay the default for the at least near future. Don't recommend xf86-input-synaptics by default ---------- There are two main X11 drivers for touchpads: xf86-input-synaptics and xf86-input-libinput. Synaptics is practically dead upstream while libinput is the de-facto replacement, also for tablets. Currently, if plasma5-desktop is installed, xf86-input-synaptics is automatically pulled in as well. It takes precedence over the libinput driver. While it's a simple step to remove the package and thus let libinput take over, the question is whether this should be the default state. Pro synaptics: - More configuration options - Some say it works better for them - ...? Pro libinput: - Maintained upstream - Some say it works better for them - Used by wayland compositors, so a more consistent experience - Better handling of some hardware configurations (e.g. Thinkpad trackpoints) - ...? Cheers, the openSUSE KDE maintainers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Window unchangable
by JJM de Faber 05 Jul '20

05 Jul '20

In the left corner of the window titlebar is menu with an item named 'more actions/special application settings'. The next menu contains a tab 'Apperance and fixes'. This menu has an item 'No tittle bar and frame'. I activated this selection and the titlebar and frame where gone as expected. The problem is how to do additional setting now the title bar with the menu entry is gone? The window configuration is now unchangable because there is no entrypoint for the menu of this window! Doe anybody know a solution ??? Thanks, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] journal full of these types of messages
by Ianseeks 17 Jun '20

17 Jun '20

Hi I get a lot of these "deprecated" messages related to QML (see below) in the journal, some suggest upgrading to QtQml 2.15 but i can't even find any installation of QtQml anywhere to even check what version is installed. Are they pointless journal entries from a users point of view? regards Ian 1. file:///usr/share/plasma/wallpapers/org.kde.image/contents/ui/main.qml:76:9: Unable to assign [undefined] to QStringList file:///usr/share/plasma/wallpapers/org.kde.image/contents/ui/main.qml:75:9: Unable to assign [undefined] to int 2. file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Styles/Plasma/BusyIndicatorStyle.qml:39:9: QML Connections: Implicitly defined onFoo properties in Connections are deprecated. Use this syntax instead: function onFoo(<arguments>) { ... } 3. This behavior is deprecated. You have to import QtQml 2.15 after any QtQuick imports and set the restoreMode of the binding to fix this warning. In Qt < 6.0 the default is Binding.RestoreBinding. In Qt >= 6.0 the default is Binding.RestoreBindingOrValue. -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20200615 Qt: 5.15.0 KDE Frameworks: 5.70.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.19.0 - kwin 5.19.0 kmail2 5.14.2 (20.04.2) - akonadiserver 5.14.2 (20.04.2) - Kernel: 5.7.1-1-default - xf86-video-nouveau: 1.0.16 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] TW 20200611/5.70.0 leave doesn't mean leave any more
by Felix Miata 17 Jun '20

17 Jun '20

Before, right click desktop and select leave meant exit session without any kind of confirmation if in settings, confirm logout was deselected and end current session was selected. Now there's a logout menu presented with options that I can't find any way to get rid of that works. Default leave option in settings, which shows end current session selected, is grayed out. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] CPU / Network / HDD utilization wiogets stopped working
by Achim Gratz 13 Jun '20

13 Jun '20

After the latest Plasma/KDE uopdate these widgets have stopped working (and changed their default config to pie charts, which were previously not available). There are no available Sensors listed in the respective configuration tab to select from, so I guess that some other package is missing? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] qdbus - is this still working in 5.19?
by Ianseeks 12 Jun '20

12 Jun '20

Hi I use this to display progress of my backup script during logout but it no longer displays anything (i used to use kdialog). I am having other issues with the logout process since installing tumbleweed:20200609 in that its completely changed how it works so it may be linked to that. regards Ian -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20200610 Qt: 5.15.0 KDE Frameworks: 5.70.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.19.0 - kwin 5.19.0 kmail2 5.14.1 (20.04.0) - akonadiserver 5.14.1 (20.04.0) - Kernel: 5.6.14-1-default - xf86-video-nouveau: 1.0.16 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] SDDM does not reboot the computer anymore
by Mathias Homann 12 Jun '20

12 Jun '20

Hi, since the latest plasma beta showed up on OBS i can't directly log out into a shutdown or reboot anymore... you know, where you select "reboot" as your logout option. No matter what I select, all I get is the login screen, and there I have to click on reboot or shutdown to actually have it happen. Now here's the evil bit: I have TWO computers, both running openSUSE Leap 15.1 with Plasma from the OBS repos (Qt5, Frameworks5, Appplications, Extras). Both Systems are running exactly the same package versions (I've sent "rpm -qa --queryformat=%{NAME}-%{VERSION}\n"|sort -V into a file and kompared line by line with diff), and on one of the two shutdown&reboot works as excpected, on the other it does not. The only difference that I know of is the fact that on one of the computers I am logging in with a local user account, and that's where shutdown&reboot works; on the other I'm using a network user via NIS, with $home via NFS+autofs, and there shutdown&reboot does not work anymore, but it used to work until the current Plasma Beta rolled in. I can't find anything in what little there is in sddm config files - anyone here got any ideas? Cheers Mathias -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann(a)openSUSE.org telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 irc: [lemmy] on freenode and ircnet obs: lemmy04 gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] no window decorations since TW 20200604
by Felix Miata 08 Jun '20

08 Jun '20

After upgrade from 20200326 to 20200604, window decorations are missing: # journalctl -b | grep aile Jun 06 11:26:59 fi965 kernel: acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM Jun 06 15:27:16 fi965 systemd[1]: haveged.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Jun 06 15:27:49 fi965 nscd[840]: 840 stat failed for file `/etc/services'; will try again later: No such file or directory Jun 06 15:27:16 fi965 kwin_x11[1410]: kf5.kconfig.core: "\"fsrestore1\" - conversion of \"641,641,0,0\" to QRect failed" Jun 06 15:27:16 fi965 kwin_x11[1410]: kf5.kconfig.core: "\"fsrestore2\" - conversion of \"0,0,0,0\" to QRect failed" Jun 06 15:27:20 fi965 org_kde_powerdevil[1470]: powerdevil: org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper.brightness failed # cat .xsession-errors /etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default) gpg-connect-agent: no gpg-agent running in this session gpg-connect-agent: no gpg-agent running in this session dbus-update-activation-environment: warning: error sending to systemd: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: Invalid environment assignments Could not open kded5 using a library: Cannot load library libkdeinit5_kded5: (libkdeinit5_kded5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Created window 0x1c00001 on screen 0 with timestamp 89571 xsettingsd: Selection _XSETTINGS_S0 is owned by 0x0 xsettingsd: Took ownership of selection _XSETTINGS_S0 xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 9 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf What does one do to determine which package contains a file that's missing (e.g. libkdeinit5_kded5) so that (re-)installing it can be attempted? Anyone else having this trouble? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] proxy errors from updater applet
by Mathias Homann 12 May '20

12 May '20

Hi, every time I log in on my laptop I get this error from the updater applet: "Download (curl) error for 'http://eregion.kicks-ass.net/eregion/13.1/ repodata/repomd.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Could not resolve proxy: HTTP_PROXY" But: use of a proxy is turned OFF both in yast2 and in my user's settings. To fix it I have to go to system settings, turn proxy on, click accept, turn proxy off, click accept, and log out. Then, it'll be fine until the next reboot. I don't have any of the proxy variables set anywhere either. Versions involved: Operating System: openSUSE Leap 15.1 KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.70.0 Qt Version: 5.14.1 Kernel Version: 4.12.14-lp151.28.48-default OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz Memory: 15,6 GiB Any ideas? Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann(a)openSUSE.org OBS: lemmy04 Jabber (XMPP): lemmy(a)tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102

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