January 2016 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] elarun splash with KDM?
by Felix Miata 22 Feb '16

22 Feb '16

What actually controls what splash is available, the greeter/DM, or the DE? Is there a TW or Leap package I can install to get Elarun in KF5 instead of a choice between Breeze and nothing? Configure splash doesn't provide a way to see where the selections live so as to be able to run rpm -qf on them to see what rpm owns them. Installing kde4-wallpaper-default got Elarun for the desktop wallpaper, but not for splash. SDDM isn't an option due to KDM features SDDM lacks, unless SDDM can be used just for configuration access to optional splashes and not required to be the configured greeter. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-kde] KDE5 bluetooth system not running
by stakanov＠freenet.de 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Malte Gell > Gesendet: Sa. 23.01.2016 14:12 > An: opensuse-kde , > Betreff: [opensuse-kde] KDE5 bluetooth system not running > > Hi there, > > I have a USB bluetooth dongle connected to my machine (0a5c:21e8 > Broadcom Corp. BCM20702A0 Bluetooth 4.0 to be precise). > > When I now log in to a new KDE5 session, the bluetooth icon appears, but > the BT adapter seems to not be activated.... > > Service bluetooth.service is running, restarting it, does not help. > > The only help so far is to pull and replug the BT dongle. > > Do you know any workaround to get active BT in KDE5 from start? > > Thanks > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende----- Hi Malte. Unfortunately you did not mention what version of operating system you are running. I had a short exchange at opensuse main mailing list and earned a lot of "pun" because I dared to say BT is broken in opensuse 13.2 [opensuse] Leap, KDE, Bluetooth: how to create a special keyboard shortcut for an inside application function was the title. You can read about it (if you can work through the "noise". I can tell you that: with 13.2 BT is broken for GSM phones and BT mices. Adapters are sometimes recognized after sleep or restart, but you will always end up with the device not pairing any more with the adapter. So the adapter does not wake up. Only workaround is to pull and plug the whole thing. In Leap with a "Hamlet" adapter and a Logitech BT mouse I did have it working (that induces my suspect that you are working with 13.2). Still, also in leap pairing of gsm phones will work on an off, the pairing function of BT4 seems not to work correctly and the one of BT3 seems better fitting. 2.1 seems to work normally. Try to look if you need to install the corresponding firmware from the repos. There was a broadcom firware rpm I recall. Good luck. P.S. as the posters on opensuse said that it is "known" I guess there is a bug report. If you find that there isn't any, well let me know I will open a bug. Or let me know about your report if you open one. --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Upcoming changes for KDE users in Tumbleweed
by Raymond Wooninck 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

Some history As you may know, up to now the default PIM suite for Plasma 5 in openSUSE Tumbleweed was the KDE PIM 4.14, based on kdelibs 4.x. While upstream KDE has offered a KF5-based version since Applications 15.08, it has been originally marked as a technology preview, so we (the openSUSE community KDE team) thought it would be more prudent to stick with the 4.14 version (but offer the KF5 based PIM as an option for the daring). Fast forward to today: KDE Applications 15.12.1 have been released, and we’ve been testing and using the KF5 based PIM suite for all these months with no issues. In addition, PIM developers have been adding interesting new features and impressive speed optimization (see the blog post by PIM developer Dan Vratil), and at the same time dropped support for the the 4.14 PIM suite. What does it mean for openSUSE? This means that from the next openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshot, the old PIM 4.14.x packages will be replaced by their KF5 counterparts. Most settings should be migrated automatically, and the mail store is set in a DE-independent location, so you should not lose any data. You have two options for upgrading: 1) Start from scratch Simply recreate all your accounts in the new interface and redownload all your mail. This works best with IMAP (with setups and if you have enough bandwidth. 2) Use the PIM settings exporter You can export all your mail from KMail: under the Tools menu, there is the option Import/Export KMail Data, which you can use to create an archive with all your mails and account configurations. You need to do this before upgrading, then use the same option in KMail after upgrading to the KF5 based version to have all your accounts, calendars and mail set up. Caveats The 4.14.x and KF5 versions of the PIM stack are incompatible with each other. Therefore if you do not fully upgrade the system you will get strange issues. Ensure you update with zypper dup or with the equivalent option in YaST to ensure that all packages will be picked up. Bugs Bugs? What bugs? Software is perfect! ;) Jokes aside, if you find a bug in the PIM stack, please report it to the upstream bug tracker. If instead it’s a bug in the openSUSE packages (missing dependencies, etc.), report it to openSUSE’s Bugzilla Thanks Thanks go to the KDE PIM developers for their awesome work despite their small numbers (Laurent Montel and Dan Vratil deserve several beers each ;). See also Some history As you may know, up to now the default PIM suite for Plasma 5 in openSUSE Tumbleweed was the KDE PIM 4.14, based on kdelibs 4.x. While upstream KDE has offered a KF5-based version since Applications 15.08, it has been originally marked as a technology preview, so we (the openSUSE community KDE team) thought it would be more prudent to stick with the 4.14 version (but offer the KF5 based PIM as an option for the daring). Fast forward to today: KDE Applications 15.12.1 have been released, and we’ve been testing and using the KF5 based PIM suite for all these months with no issues. In addition, PIM developers have been adding interesting new features and impressive speed optimization (see the blog post by PIM developer Dan Vratil), and at the same time dropped support for the the 4.14 PIM suite. What does it mean for openSUSE? This means that from the next openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshot, the old PIM 4.14.x packages will be replaced by their KF5 counterparts. Most settings should be migrated automatically, and the mail store is set in a DE-independent location, so you should not lose any data. You have two options for upgrading: Start from scratch Simply recreate all your accounts in the new interface and redownload all your mail. This works best with IMAP (with setups and if you have enough bandwidth. Use the PIM settings exporter You can export all your mail from KMail: under the Tools menu, there is the option Import/Export KMail Data, which you can use to create an archive with all your mails and account configurations. You need to do this before upgrading, then use the same option in KMail after upgrading to the KF5 based version to have all your accounts, calendars and mail set up. Caveats The 4.14.x and KF5 versions of the PIM stack are incompatible with each other. Therefore if you do not fully upgrade the system you will get strange issues. Ensure you update with zypper dup or with the equivalent option in YaST to ensure that all packages will be picked up. Bugs Bugs? What bugs? Software is perfect! ;) Jokes aside, if you find a bug in the PIM stack, please report it to the upstream bug tracker. If instead it’s a bug in the openSUSE packages (missing dependencies, etc.), report it to openSUSE’s Bugzilla Thanks Thanks go to the KDE PIM developers for their awesome work despite their small numbers (Laurent Montel and Dan Vratil deserve several beers each ;) See also Luca's post here: https://www.dennogumi.org/2016/01/kdepim-changes-in-opensuse-tumbleweed/ Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE5 bluetooth system not running
by Malte Gell 23 Jan '16

23 Jan '16

Hi there, I have a USB bluetooth dongle connected to my machine (0a5c:21e8 Broadcom Corp. BCM20702A0 Bluetooth 4.0 to be precise). When I now log in to a new KDE5 session, the bluetooth icon appears, but the BT adapter seems to not be activated.... Service bluetooth.service is running, restarting it, does not help. The only help so far is to pull and replug the BT dongle. Do you know any workaround to get active BT in KDE5 from start? Thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] TW The kwin_x11 process keeps stopping causing the window decorations to disappear
by Roman Bysh 22 Jan '16

22 Jan '16

Hi, Anyone else experiencing the window decorations disappearing just as the "kwin_x11" process stops? This is happening quite often in Tumbleweed. I this a normal to have a separate process just for just for the decorations. Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] phonon-backend-vlc crashes knotify4 and Amarok on openSUSE 13.2
by Roman Bysh 20 Jan '16

20 Jan '16

Hi all, I submitted a bug report upstream on 2015-11-13 20:45:14 UTC for the phonon-backend-vlc when installed on openSUSE 13.2 crashes kcm-phonon. Ref: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355309 If phonon-backend-vlc is installed the crash is still happening. They have it marked as resolved. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Upcoming changes for KDE users in Tumbleweed
by ianseeks 19 Jan '16

19 Jan '16

On Monday 18 Jan 2016 20:38:10 Bruno Friedmann wrote: > On Monday 18 January 2016 16.01:35 ianseeks wrote: > > On Monday 18 Jan 2016 15:38:26 Wolfgang Bauer wrote: > > > Am Montag, 18. Januar 2016, 13:05:07 schrieb ianseeks: > > > > On Monday 18 Jan 2016 12:46:34 Wolfgang Bauer wrote: > > > > > Am Sonntag, 17. Januar 2016, 18:31:03 schrieb ianseeks: > > > > > > Shouldn't the install process also automatically stop akonadi for > > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > > > No, that's impossible. > > > > > > > > > > The update/install process is running as root, it cannot stop the > > > > > users' > > > > > akonadi(s) that might be running. > > > > > > > > > > Well, it could kill them of course, but that would cause the same > > > > > possible > > > > > problems that not stopping Akonadi before the update manually would > > > > > be > > > > > able > > > > > to cause I think. > > > > > > > > Could it not pop up a warning that says, "please stop akonadi (with > > > > the > > > > example command)...... and press Y when done?" > > > > I think doing this type of user friendly action makes the process more > > > > professional and will hopefully stop a few bug reports > > > > > > No. You have the same problem again. > > > The installation process running as root cannot connect to the users' X > > > or > > > DBUS session. > > > > its a shame that there is no way round it, it makes parts of installation > > process difficult to fully automate > > Well I consider it as administrative tasks. > Now we all know we shouldn't have akonadi running during the update. > > So from an admin point of view it quite simple: ask an user logged to get > out and keep them away from the system man nologin could help. > > Once you're sure there no more user process reunning fire up a zypper up/dup > and it's done. > > Do we really want to have to reboot like some systems to be able to make > an update, not me as far I'm concern. certainly not.. their install process is shit :o) This is a special case that needs migration and update. I would have thought a migration process should cater for dependencies in some way. The problem is that there may be ordinary users (e.g. my gran) who do not subscribe to these lists who will not know about it and will not have a clue how to stop akonadi. The current process is fine for Admins and developers. Perhaps there needs to be a way for a the process to find out which user launched its update session and then check if akonadi is running for that user. Or the update process creates an autostart file that runs the migration/update on log in before akonadi is started (if thats possible, i don;t know). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Upcoming changes for KDE users in Tumbleweed
by Luca Beltrame 17 Jan '16

17 Jan '16

In data domenica 17 gennaio 2016 12:26:30 CET, hai scritto: Hello, > Might be a "Good Idea" (tm!) to post a link to your blog (post) :^) It's at the bottom of the first email in the thread by Raymond. Nevertheless: https://www.dennogumi.org/2016/01/kdepim-changes-in-opensuse-tumbleweed/ -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B

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[opensuse-kde] ~/.kde obsolete with KDE5 ?
by Malte Gell 16 Jan '16

16 Jan '16

Hi there, KDE5 seems to not create a new ~/.kde5 folder. >From previous KDE versions I still have ~/.kde4 and ~/.kde in my home directoy, but they seem not to be used anymore. So, is ~/.kde* now obsolete with KDE5, is everything stored below ~/.config ? Thankx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2?
by stakanov＠freenet.de 15 Jan '16

15 Jan '16

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Emilio Recio > Gesendet: Mi. 13.01.2016 15:21 > An: opensuse-kde , > Betreff: [opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2? > > How long is this version supported? I really don't want to go to Leap just > yet due to 1) my experiences with plasma5/kf5 crashing and 2) all the > other scary stories I hear around the new KDE and 3) system tray missing. > > -e > > The information contained in this transmission contains privileged and confidential information. It is > intended only for the use of the person named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all > copies of the original message. > > CAUTION: Intended recipients should NOT use email communication for emergent or urgent health care matters. > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht Ende----- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Emilio Recio > Gesendet: Mi. 13.01.2016 15:21 > An: opensuse-kde , > Betreff: [opensuse-kde] OpenSUSE 13.2? > > How long is this version supported? I really don't want to go to Leap just > yet due to 1) my experiences with plasma5/kf5 crashing and 2) all the > other scary stories I hear around the new KDE and 3) system tray missing. > a) what version of kde with plasma 5 did you use. To get an idea about plasma 5 you can use a virtualized leap. The integration for 13.2 was far from perfect and the official version was not plasma 5 but that was more a technology preview. b) what are "all the other scary stories". This is a quite astonishing affirmation. In the first 6 month of any distribution I know, a lot of issues come up. Always. This is due to very personal usage patterns. You may or may not be hit by one of this bugs. This is what release notes are for. They can and should be read BEFORE ANY installation. 90% of the time it iwll not be pertinent to your usage case. So what you write there is really from my point of view a gratuitous FUD. c) system tray is not missing. There are several workaround and patches. I did not find any "system tray missing" here on my notebook. With very few exceptions it works even now better with leap then with 13.2. You may have several issues when doing a new install of 13.2. So if you are installing for the first time: use leap, it is, in my experience right now, absolutely reliable even for mission critical stuff. This is particularly true for first time install because the brand new installation do not have ANY migration issues, yeeeehaaa! So all your scares are gone to a 50% at once. A lot of crashes can come from old system files hanging around. To get an idea when using plasma 5 try to use a brand new user to see if those crashes are migration related. Video drivers: ATI opensource and closed source drivers are good Nvidia: in my experience the noveau are problematic since 4,1 but that should not hit you with leap. Proprietary ones are good. Intel: there are some issues with dolphin crashing. Particularly if using the i915 chipset, like my X201. Still working with leap is enjoyable currently. Yes I did report quite some bugs but nearly all if not all are annoyances. Non of them AFAIR are showstoppers. There are a lot o false stories about leap that I would like to dismantle here and now. Notably: IT IS NOT TRUE that using Leap - you are loosing your hair (not even puberty hair, not true really). - you are getting peritonitis or emphysema (I swear, that is dead wrong). - it does allow you to see the future nor do you see ghosts. (Not true, no "ring" is seen either and the telephone does not ring after seeing the desktop). If you tell us your hardware setting an your exact issue you will find a solution. and a lot of things are there (especially Libreoffice) that work better in leap than in 13.2 --- Alle Postfächer an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! http://email.freenet.de/basic/Informationen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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