November 2011 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Fwd: [opensuse-kde] Doubts KDE 47 Upstream in openSUSE 12.1
by Hernan_ 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Thanks Stephan. People suggest me to try Factory but I prefer to keep system in the stable line. 2011/11/21 Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)suse.de>: > Am 20.11.2011 22:57, schrieb Hernan_: >> Greetings. >> >> I'm trying to upgrade KDE (openSUSE 12.1 fresh install) to latest >> stable changing packages to Upstream repo (KR47) but some conflicts >> with openSUSE branding packages makes me hesitate to continue or >> not... >> > KR47 lacks to rebuild the branding packages it seems. I try if I can > fix it. > > Greetings, Stephan > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org > > -- Hernán Thiers Garcia Ingeniero Informático Santiago, Chile. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Packages missing in KDE:Unstable:SC
by Raymond Wooninck 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Dear Todd, Apper could be accepted into KDE:Unstable:SC, but all the other packages will not be accepted. As you indicated yourself already the purpose of KDF and KUSC are totally different. Long discussions were held to agree on the purpose of each. KDE:Distro:Factory is the devel repo for all KDE related packages that are also in the standard openSUSE distribution. > I compiled a list of packages that are present in KDE:Distro:Factory > but are absent in KDE:Unstable:SC. Some of these are probably > intentional since the goals of the two projects are not exactly the > same, but others I think should probably be present in > KDE:Unstable:SC. KDE:Unstable:SC has as sole purpose to supply the standard KDE Desktop based on the upcoming KDE release and required libraries (if the current Factory version is too low). This means that packages like Amarok, Kaffeine, Clementine, decibel and all the others that you mentioned will not be provided. The correct usage is to have the standard openSUSE version and then to have KDE:Unstable:SC updating the standard KDE Desktop packages. This means that in this configuration Amarok will be installed from the standard openSUSE version. KDE:Unstable:Playground has absolutely nothing to do with KDE:Unstable:SC. KDE:Unstable:Playground contains community maintained packages with unreleased tarballs. These tarballs could be git/svn snapshots, alpha/beta releases, etc. Everything that you do not really want to push to the standard user. Therefore the prefix KDE:Unstable was chosen for this repo. > First is the list of packages that are available in KDE:Distro:Factory > but are not available in KDE:Unstable:SC, KDE:Unstable:Playground, or > KDE:Extra (in other words there is no installable version of this for > KDE:Unstable:SC): In your comparision you should take into account the main distro repository which contains most of these packages namely openSUSE:12.1, openSUSE:11.4, openSUSE:Factory, etc. > Next is for packages that are available in KDE:Distro:Factory and > KDE:Unstable:Playground but not KDE:Unstable:SC (so users of > KDE:Unstable:SC must install an unstable version). I am unclear Why should they install an unstable version? They should take the standard version that is provided through the main openSUSE repository. > whether this is intentional or not, since some non-KDE SC packages, > like digikam, have links to the stable KDE:Distro:Factory version in > KDE:Unstable:SC, while others, like amarok and rekonq, do not. Digikam and kipi-plugins are there because of historical reasons. Digikam and kipi-plugins were initially build on top of libraries that were provided through the kdegraphics package. This changed recently when KDE moved to git and these specific libraries were split out from kdegraphics. We didn't had the time yet to review the new situation correct to see if we should remove packages from KUSC. > It is my opinion that stable versions of non-KDE SC programs should be > available, but I think the decision during the repo reorganization was > to not have them, which makes the inclusion of packages like digikam > (which have unstable versions in KDE:Unstable:Playground) confusing. Why are you coming up again with KDE:Unstable:Playground ? and why should it be confusing ? KDE:Unstable:SC is NOT EQUAL to KDE:Unstable:Playground nor do they have any connection. KDE:Unstable:Playground is build for all available KDE repo's (including the KDE:Release:4x repo's). KDE:Unstable:SC will only build the KDE SC packages and required libraries and that decision was taken and is there to stay. Building all packages from KDE:Distro:Factory in KDE:Unstable:SC would be a big waste of buildpower and would require quite a lot of maintaince power. One of the additional intention was to change the KDE:Unstable:SC packages so that they would install into a separate prefix and that it would be possible to run it besides a stable KDE desktop. This would heavily collide with your idea to start providing also application packages Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] desktop select icons
by George Olson 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Hey, I just updated my kernel at the same time as installing virtual box. As soon as I did, when I rebooted into KDE, the desktop icons that are just over to the left by the kicker have all of a sudden gotten bigger. They used to be 6 tiny squares arranged like this: x x x x x x Now they are 6 bigger squares arranged like this: X X X X X X The problem is now they take up too much space on my small laptop screen. Is there any way to go back to the smaller select icons? I use 6 desktops, and using the Personal Settings module -> workspace behavior, I couldn't see anything that tells how to select the size of the desktop select icons (or whatever you call them). There I can select the number and do some other things, but not the size. I am using openSUSE 11.4 KDE 4.7. My kernel is 2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop. Thanks, George -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] slow laggy KDE shutdown
by John McInnes 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

12.1 RC2 64bit Anyone else having a slow shutdown response? I click shutdown, and then nothing happens for a long time. Anywhere from 10 to 60 seconds. The taskbar and panels are unresponsive during this time, though application windows are still responsive. Finally the shutdown is initiated and then it moves along quickly thru the kernel portion and powers off. I've seen this on two different Sony laptops. I tried the suggestion of disabling the logout sound. Didn't help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Fwd: Re: [kde-doc-english] [Bug found] For kate_configuring-part template
by Freek de Kruijf 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

The following message illustrates my point that kdelibs from the trunk of KDE, the part in the git repository, needs to be made available in all supported KDE versions of openSUSE. If I can be of any help, please let me know. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [kde-doc-english] [Bug found] For kate_configuring-part template Date: zaterdag 19 november 2011, 17:44:54 From: "Yuri Chornoivan" <yurchor(a)ukr.net> To: "For people writing documentation for KDE" <kde-doc-english(a)kde.org> написане Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:31:07 +0200, Antoni Bella Pérez <antonibella5(a)orange.es>: > > Hi > > kate_configuring-part.po (missing entries) > > From Catalan Team I'm get dockbook generation in english from this > entry: > Configuring With Document Variables > > I inspected the rest of Kate and KWrite docbook files and are correct. > Don't > commit this rebuild. > > Toni Hi! Please copy this file: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/master/r… into your /usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/entities then re-generate docbooks. This entity was added in KDE 4.7.3. Hope this helps. Best regards, Yuri _______________________________________________ kde-doc-english mailing list kde-doc-english(a)kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-doc-english ----------------------------------------- BTW. The corresponding file in openSUSE is not /usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/entities but /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/entities/contributor.entities -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Packages missing in KDE:Unstable:SC
by todd rme 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

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[opensuse-kde] KDE live cd installation partly English in a non-English environment
by Christian Wansart 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

Hi there, there seem to be a problem with the KDE Live CD using a different language than English. When I installed openSUSE 12.1 (btw: I had the same problem in 11.4) using the KDE Live CD with German as language, I've got a partly English system Widgets, YaST and some programs. Today a friend found out, if he runs "zypper dup" he gets a few hundret packages to update and none with "zypper up". So I tried it in a virtual machine and "zypper dup" fixed the problem. So, I wanted to make the problem and it's solution public so 12.2 can be free of this bug. :) Am I right here to reach the one(s) who is/are responsible for the KDE Live CD? For German users I already created a Wiki article → http://de.opensuse.org/Kategorie:SDB:KDE-Live_Sprachausgabe_korrigieren I'll translate to English in the next hour. Regards, Christian Wansart p.s.: Does this bug occured by someone who also uses a non-English and non- German installation? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Unstable packages and KDE:Extra
by todd rme 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

As far as I can tell there are currently 5 unstable packages in KDE:Extra, which apparently is only supposed to have stable packages: FreeCAD - has not had a stable release apparently plasmoid-translatoid - last stable release was december 1 2010, I don't know whether the stable version still builds polka - has not had a stable release (the version in KDE-extra is an alpha snapshot) smplayer - last stable release was February 2010, I don't know whether the stable version builds libzipios0 - last stable release was in 2001, very unlikely to still build (the version in KDE:Extra is a snapshot from 2007) Further, there is at least 1 package for which the stable version does not build on openSUSE 12.1: kphotoalbum. It has not had a stable release since Nov 2009, but is still getting plenty of updates in git (the git version builds fine on openSUSE 12.1). So we should probably clarify when, if ever, unstable packages should be in KDE:Extra. If it is never, then the above packages should probably be removed. If exceptions are allowed for which there is no working stable version but that are still actively developed, then we should probably include kphotoalbum in KDE:Extra. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Weekly News Issue 202 is coming soon...
by Sascha Manns 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Hello Mates, don't worry about this mail. I just would like to remind that our next openSUSE Weekly News 202 comes out at Saturday evening (UTC +2). Until Saturday 17:00 UTC you can propose Articles, Links and all such stuff for integrating into the Weekly News. For people who don't want to write it in XML, you can use our Pad: http://os-news.ietherpad.com/2. I've planned to send this Mail each Wednesday to remind on the Weekly News. Have a lot of fun -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns Community & Support Agent open-slx GmbH Web: http://community.open-slx.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: Unstable packages and KDE:Extra
by Peter 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

On Wednesday 16 November 2011, todd rme wrote: > As far as I can tell there are currently 5 unstable packages in > KDE:Extra, which apparently is only supposed to have stable packages: > <snip> > > plasmoid-translatoid - last stable release was december 1 2010, I > don't know whether the stable version still builds I don't know if you're specifically referring to 12.1, but earlier in the year there were a couple of times the translatoid stopped functioning, probably due to a change in Google's API, and this package got fixed, so at least for me on 11.4 it's working fine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner(a)opensuse.org

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