August 2010 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] KDE Branding HOWTO
by Will Stephenson 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I've been finishing the branding work for 11.3 this week, and have been documenting how to do it as I go. The first draft is attached. Comments? If I was hit by a bus tomorrow, could you do openSUSE 11.4 branding? (Lubos doesn't need to answer that ;)). Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex

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Re: [opensuse-kde] KDE 4.5 Stable Repo
by Alin Marin Elena 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Naming KDE:SC:45 -- _____________________________________________________________________ Without Questions there are no Answers! _____________________________________________________________________ Mr Alin Marin ELENA http://alin.elenaworld.net http://www.google.com/profiles/alinm.elena alinm.elena(a)gmail.com ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Black background with Suse 11.2 and KDE4
by John G Walker 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

I've been running KDE4 with Suse 11.2 for some months now, with no problems. Yesterday, the background to my screen suddenly went black. Open windows were unaffected, but I could see my theme, the task manager, etc. I couldn't open any programs other than the ones already open (and ones that they launch). This problem was system-wide, in that it affects all accounts on my machine. I thought I'd solved the problem after discussion with someone by email, by forcing KDE to recreate itself. I did this by mv ~/.kde4 ~/oldkde4 then relogging. This, in itself, seemed to make matters worse, so I went mv ~/.kde4 ~/newkde4 mv ~/oldkde4 ~/.kde4 and relogged. To my surprise, everything worked thereafter for a few hours. I think this was coincidence, because, after a few hours, the same thing happened and the "fix" didn't work anymore. I checked .xsession-error and it says /etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_GB.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default) startkde: Starting up... kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so kbuildsycoca4 running... kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kconf_update.so Invalid D-BUS member name 'idle-hint' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'is-local' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'x11-display-device' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'x11-display' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'display-device' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'remote-host-name' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'session-type' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection Invalid D-BUS member name 'unix-user' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 166 Extension: 146 (Uknown extension) Minor opcode: 11 (Unknown request) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 166 Extension: 146 (Uknown extension) Minor opcode: 11 (Unknown request) Resource id: 0x0 kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kcminit_startup.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so <unknown program name>(4335)/ KStartupInfo::createNewStartupId: creating: "Marianne;1283173265;746516;4335_TIME0" : "unnamed app" kephald starting up XRANDR error base: 176 RRInput mask is set!! ".xsession-errors" 369L, 28810C Anyone got any ideas? This is making things extremely difficult for me, to say the least. Rapid responses would be highly welcome! -- All the best, John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Repo publish flags and upstream release management
by Will Stephenson 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

So I just spent an afternoon trying to figure out why Choqok from KUP's plugins don't load, and it was the old chestnut that KPluginLoader doesn't permit plugins built with a newer version of kdelibs than is installed to load. This happened because Choqok in KUP built vs KDF is built vs the unpublished KDE 4.5.1 from KDF, and I still have KDE 4.5.0 installed. Can we make sure and disable publish in the dependent repositories of projects building vs KDF when we disable publish in KDF during integration of a new upstream version? This means 1) disable publish in all KDF repos 2) disable publish in KDE:Extra openSUSE_*_KDE_Distro_Factory 3) disable publish in KDE:Unstable:Playground I've made a feature request in the OBS to warn when not doing this: https://features.opensuse.org/310454 but until then please be careful. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:KDE3 issues
by Ilya Chernykh 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

Hi people. I suggest you all to subscribe to opensuse-kde3(a)opensuse.org so I could send e-mails directly to this mailing list. I have several questions, suggestions and clarifications regarding status of KDE:KDE3. - First of all I have to announce that we completed for the most part moving of packages from KDE:Communitry. It has been done much quicker than by the KDE4 team. Some packages are not moved because they have problems either with build or during runtime. Some packages like ksquirrel have well-known security issues. I do not know should we include them in KDE:KDE3 or not. - It seems that some packages were disabled for Factory. Namely, kdemultimedia3 and anything related to Beagle. Please tell me the actual reason or the disabling. I can add to KDE:KDE3 repository any libraries needed for the build. For example, I can restore kdemultimedi3. Or are there any other reasons for the disabling? Beagle in particular is essential for finding topics in KDE help system. - I am planning to add some soft dependencies to some basic KDE packages to improve user's experience. For example, it would be good in my view if kdebase3-workplace recommended kde3-knemo and desktoptext-config. Also some plugins may be recommended. Please tell me if this is against OpenSUSE packaging policy. - I have long-range plans to include Qt3-based versions of Yast2, VirtualBox and Firefox. If somebody has experience in compiling Firefox for Qt3, any help welcome. - OpenSUSE maintainers, what's your opinion about possibility to include KDE3 option to OpenSUSE? The basic part of KDE3 (including kicker, konq, ksysguard, kcontrol) is already included (to be precise, it was never removed from OpenSUSE), but the ability to logon on KDE3 is disabled. The status of KDE3 repository has improved considerably in recent times, so it may look reasonable to reconsider KDE3's status. To enable a user to install KDE3 on his system we need to include only a tiny package kdebase3-session which takes only 4 kb, this package includes the .desktop file for the session manager so the user could choose KDE3 on the logon screen. - Besides this one can consider including KDE:KDE3 repository in the list of community repositories along with the Education repo etc so a user could be able to install the full version of KDE3 from the community repo. - Some KDE3 packages (koffice, pdfedit) currently experience problems with building for Factory 32-bit architecture. This is not a KDE3 bug, but an issue of brocken zlib in Factory, it was also observed on other distributions. I have reported a bugreport: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634995 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-gnome] New version: libical 0.46
by Will Stephenson 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

On Tuesday 31 August 2010 03:09:17 Suman Manjunath wrote: > While I'm compiling a brief summary of changes (from 0.44), are there > any packages that are dependent on the older version? If yes, please > respond! kdepimblibs4 and thus practically everything else with a K in it. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: KDE 4.5 Stable Repo
by S. 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

Will Stephenson <wstephenson <at> suse.de> writes: > > This is to hammer out the details of the stable KDE 4.5 repo Thanks for working on this! I am very interested in seeing a "Current Stable KDE Releases" repo that offers official KDE 4.x and 4.x.y releases that does *not* depend on openSUSE factory and which will *not* introduce the instability of beta/dev snapshots. Thanks for your time! > > a) Naming > > I don't think this should go under top level KDE: since we will have other > versions. Perhaps KDE:SC:45 or KDE:Release:45? I like the idea of KDE:Release:45. Presumably this would offer 4.5.0, and then 4.5.1 and 4.5.2 as they are officially release by KDE? Then we could have KDE:Release:46 whenever 4.6.0 is officially stable. > > c) Update frequency/policy > > This is a question for the maintainers. Options: > > *) On KDE bugfix release (4.5.1 etc) This seems safe but remember that the > Akonadi PIM port is still planned to be released with 4.5, even if this is > being pushed back. I am not sure that a major change to the PIM stack as an > update is what Open-PC users want > *) Arbitrary updates as decided by maintainers. This would allow 'good > builds' to go out as updates without surprises like Akonadi PIM. Sorry, I'm not a maintainer and I can't contribute to this project. But my personal opinion is that this should be a combination of both official KDE releases and updates as decided by maintainers. KDE has been quite conservative recently (as with the KDE PIM thing), so I think we can trust all their 4.x.y releases. Additionally, some really irritating bugs are sometimes fixed before the next KDE bugfix release comes out, so it might be good for the maintainers to have that option available to include bugfixes in midcycle. Another request: Would it be possible to include delta rpm patches in this repo to save openSUSE and the users a whole LOT of bandwidth? Thanks again for working on this! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] FYI: KDE3 mailing list
by Lubos Lunak 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

For those who are interested, a mailing list has been created dedicated to KDE3 based software on opensuse - opensuse-kde3(a)opensuse.org . -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.5: Lost automatic spell check in KMail
by Rajko M. 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

As subject tells: Lost automatic spell check in KMail. It is not working and it is not in the menu as option. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:Extra Repository
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

Hello Mates, i have some Questions about that Repository. 1.) I have 3 Packages (assuma, skrooge and kpassgen). Have i full control in this package? So i can use osc co and ci, or must i use submitrequest? 2.) I've seen that the publish is diabled. Can i enable this? Have a nice day... -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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[opensuse-kde] Need Help in KDE:Extra/skrooge
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

Hello Mates, i have some trouble with my skrooge Package. Building and installing goes good. If i run it via console i'm getting: skrooge(21668)/kdecore (trader) KServiceTypeTrader::defaultOffers: KServiceTypeTrader: serviceType "SKG GUI/Plugin" not found skrooge(21668)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "view_context" with KXMLGUIFactory! Then the Program Starts with Splashscreen and the Main Program. But i just can see the frames, but no other things. The Menue is near empty. Maybe anyone can help me to localize my Error? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Mount nfs share still not working (on openSUSE) in KDE 4.5
by Thierry de Coulon 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

On Sunday 29 August 2010, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote: > Am Sonntag, 29. August 2010 schrieb Thierry de Coulon: > > [...] > > The problems arrise when I create a ForderView "link to a device" that > > should mount the nfs share. > > [...] > > Did you try to use autofs? Then automounting should work "from anywhere": > KDE, GNOME, bash ... > > Gruß > Jan > -- > Apathy is the worlds fastest growing disease. But who cares? Yep! While it does not really answer my question (why different versions of KDE 4.x don't work the same) you made my day (and probably many more days :) Actually I didn't really know about AutoFS (and would probably have avoided it from the name as I do hate automounting of CD, DVD and Co). AutoFS is poorly explained in most places I visited, but in the end I found a clear example of how to use it for NFS and yes, it does exactly what I want. Thanks a lot for the suggestion - I assume I can remove the fstab lines? Well, I'll try that and see. Gruss ebenfalls! Thierry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Mount nfs share still not working (on openSUSE) in KDE 4.5
by Thierry de Coulon 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

I have been waiting for KDE 4.5 as everyone said this would be the release that would really be OK, and I must say I am impressed with KDE 4.5 on openSUSE, it seems crisp and responsive. I do still have a showstopper however, and it seems to be an openSUSE problem. I have three machines on a network. Machines A and B run Mepis 8.0 (Debian based) with KDE 3.5.10; Both share files over nfs, and neither is a real "server", by which I mean they are not always on, so mounting shares at boot is not an option. Machine C is used for media editing and testing. It runs three distributions with KDE 4.x: Sabayon 5.1 with KDE 4.4.1, Mepis 8.5 with KDE 4.3.4 and openSUSE 11.3 with KDE 4.5.0 from factory. All three installs run the KDE Desktop in ForderView mode. All three have these lines in /etc/fstab: 192.168.1.x:/backup /server nfs noauto,users,exec,noatime,nolock 0 0 192.168.1.x:/video /servideo nfs noauto,users,exec,noatime,nolock 0 0 192.168.1.y:/data /centraldata nfs noauto,users,exec,noatime,nolock 0 0 and the "servers" are listed in /etc/hosts On all three installs, issuing this command as user works: mount /centraldata So nfs works, and mounting a share as a user works, obviously. The problems arrise when I create a ForderView "link to a device" that should mount the nfs share. On Sabayon /KDE 4.4.1 I can mount the shares (but umount doesn't work) On Mepis 8.5 / KDE 4.3.4 mount and umount work perfectly On openSUSE 11.3 / KDE 4.5.0 I still get the same old error: "mount: only root can do that". Of course it does work if I login as root, but... So: it's not an nfs setting or permission problem, as mounting from teh command line as user does work. it's not a KDE 4 problem in itself, as it does work in 4.3.4 on Mepis So it must be an openSUSE problem. Is there any magic to do? Does SUSE's KDE call executables that should have their permissions changed, or should my user be added to some group? Thierry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KPilot
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 27 Aug '10

27 Aug '10

Hello Mates, i would like to package KPilot for openSUSE. Maybe anyone has an old Spec File? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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[opensuse-kde] Kmail sending new mail to wastebin/trash
by Bob Williams 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Kmail has stopped honouring my filter settings, and is sending new mail to the wastebin. This includes mail for which there is no filter defined, that should end up in the default inbox. Some mail tagged as spam by Spamassassin *does* end up in a "Quarantine" folder. This behaviour started when I upgraded to KDE 4.5, but for a number of reasons this upgrade was unsatisfactory, so I am back on 4.4.4 release 8, now. Kmail is version 1.13.5 Is this known behaviour, and can I fix it? Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.3, Kernel 2.6.34.12-desktop, KDE 4.4.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.5 Stable Repo
by Will Stephenson 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

This is to hammer out the details of the stable KDE 4.5 repo a) Naming I don't think this should go under top level KDE: since we will have other versions. Perhaps KDE:SC:45 or KDE:Release:45? a.a) Open-PC repo Since at some point we will no longer need KDE:SC:45, but I assume Open-PC will need to still have it for the livecycle of the product, I suggest that Open-PC creates a second repo under their namespace that is a symlink (Adrian can do this) to KDE:SC:45. When we EOL KDE:SC:45, we can replace the symlink with its contents and Open-PC users see no interruption. b) How to implement it Fixed link revs with osc setlinkrev seem to be the obvious solution but there is a bug with this - when the linked-to repo submits to its upstream (openSUSE:Factory) and is synced back to o:F, the existing links break. I need to check this out with Adrian; Lubos has shown me how to reproduce this. In the meantime linking everything to KDF and disabling build/publish once there is a known good build should be sufficient c) Update frequency/policy This is a question for the maintainers. Options: *) On KDE bugfix release (4.5.1 etc) This seems safe but remember that the Akonadi PIM port is still planned to be released with 4.5, even if this is being pushed back. I am not sure that a major change to the PIM stack as an update is what Open-PC users want *) Arbitrary updates as decided by maintainers. This would allow 'good builds' to go out as updates without surprises like Akonadi PIM. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE SC 4.5.0 released, upgrade instructions
by Will Stephenson 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

KDE SC 4.5.0 was just released and as usual we have the freshest packages for you. The packages are in KDE:Distro:Factory and related OBS projects. We expect to produce an openSUSE 11.3 respin with 4.5.x shortly. If you want to install 11.3 with 4.5.0 preinstalled right now, use the Live Image from http://home.kde.org/~kdelive. If you want to upgrade your existing openSUSE installation to KDE SC 4.5.0, follow these steps for the best experience. They assume you are using 11.3, substitute 11.2 in all URLs below if necessary. 1) Remove any old KDE:KDE4:* repositories and KDE:Qt* repositories 2) Add the repository containing 4.5.0: KDE:Distro:Factory : zypper ar -f \ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_11.3 \ KDF 3) Add the Extra repository (optional): zypper ar -f \ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Dist… KDEExtra 4) Upgrade all packages from KDE:Distro:Factory and KDE:Extra (omit if not using): zypper dup --from KDF --from KDEExtra 5) If you are using knetworkmanager, replace it with the Network Management plasmoid due to a bug in KNM with 4.5.0 that hides all connections, before you upgrade or you may be stuck without a connection! zypper in plasmoid-networkmanagement and allow it to deinstall NetworkManager-kde4. 6) logout and login again. Please report any problems with the upgrade process here and report any packaging/integration bugs at bugzilla.novell.com, and upstream bugs at bugs.kde.org as appropriate. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Missing modules in kde4-l10n-nl from KDE 4.5.0
by Freek de Kruijf 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

I wonder why modules a.o. kontact.mo and kmail.mo are missing in kde4-l10n-nl in KDE 4.5.0. Is this packaging for openSUSE or is it something in KDE's domain? -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE:Community and KDE:KDE4:Community have been removed
by Lubos Lunak 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

As already announced earlier, KDE*Community repositories have been removed. In case somebody has just found out they need a package that used to be there, all the packages that haven't been moved elsewhere are now in home:llunak:attic . -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE 11.3 KDE 4.5 Reloaded
by Will Stephenson 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Great work by Alin and Javier - I just tried Build3-1 and it looks fine. What are the remaining bits of polish it needs? Let's build a list so when it we make a splash about it it's a-mazing. Please all join in and suggest things needing fixing. * desktop:/ still crashes in FolderView when run in a VM. This is hard to debug * Strigi is activated by default, and we disabled it in 11.3 to placate the angry brigade. Leave it off and keep Nepomuk enabled? * Set WebKitPart as the default HTML renderer? * Package selection - it's currently more KDE 4 Live than openSUSE 11.3. Should we replace KOffice with OpenOffice.org again? Digikam? Amarok 2.3.2? Any more issues we noticed in the Live Image or read about in others' blogs we can fix? Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Holiday
by Will Stephenson 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

I'm out until Thursday so please ask others to accept requests, etc. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 19th August, 16:00 UTC
by Will Stephenson 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held today, Thursday 19th August, at 16:00 UTC. Sorry for the late announce but we were busy doing kool stuff for you ;). The current list of scheduled topics is: * old action items * status report * keep kdebase3 etc for 11.4? what's left depending on kdelibs/base3? * Stop fixing KDE3 packages/repos since it is perceived as maintaining, e.g. here http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-08/msg00763.html but there were other occurrences as well. * repositories specific for KDE SC 4.5 * KDE Four Reloaded image call for testing/feedback * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=19&month=8&year=20… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] How to make a valid kde crash report?
by Alvise Cavallari 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Just updated all packages, and installed all -debug packages (I realised that there is an option for that in Yast). There is absolutely no change in the backtrace. On Thursday 19 August 2010 09.48, Martin Schlander wrote: | kdebase4-debuginfo and kwebkitpart-debuginfo might be needed. Just a guess | though, not a debug expert. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] How to make a valid kde crash report?
by Alvise Cavallari 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Hi all, Under precise circumstances, konqueror/webkit crashes systematically under both KDE SC4.4 and 4.5. I filed a bug, and would like to attach a crash report. After following the indications on the relevant opensuse and kde webpages, I installed the required debug packages. However, the KDE crash handler continues to tell me that the crash reports are unuseful, and that "The packages containing debug information for the following application and libraries are missing: /usr/bin/kdeinit4, /usr/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4" Which debug packages might be missing (libQtWebKit4-debuginfo and kdelibs4-debuginfo are installed)? Anyone can give me hints for making a valid crash report? Here is the crash handler: Thread 1 (Thread 0xb5a3c710 (LWP 5636)): [KCrash Handler] #7 0xb49db607 in typeinfo name for WebCore::QtPluginWidget () from /usr/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4 #8 0x08752d70 in ?? () Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) I tried also to use gdb, but got almost the same result... Thanks for helping me to help developers, Alvise -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: [opensuse-lxde] Akonadi Kmail problem
by Guido Berhoerster 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

* C. Brouerius van Nidek <cbroueriusvannidek(a)gmail.com> [2010-08-18 17:49]: > Have a problem with KMail. I use it as my mail client since years and are quit > happy with it. > After a restart of LXDE KMail will ask for the kwallet as usual and the Akonadi > starts pestering me with the testing results. There is only one way to leave > Akonadi by pressing the "close"button after which KMail just stops. A restart > from KMail and a renewed input for the kwallet password brings a full functional > KMail. > This effect was originally shown in KDE but seems to be repaired in the > meantime. Could somebody have a look into this problem? You might be better off asking the KDE folks which have some expertise with KDE apps (even if running outside of a KDE environment) so I'm cc'ing opensuse-kde@. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Troubles with desktop effects KDE 4.5 & kernel 2.6.35 on 11.3
by James P. Bland 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

I had to install kernel 2.6.35.1 to get some patches from upstream that would allow me to use my mobile broadband card on my Lenovo T400s laptop. After doing so plasma in KDE 4.5 will lock up unless I have turned off desktop effects. I also am unable to use dual external monitors with desktop effects enabled as the activities do not "size" or span correctly and plasma locks up also. The desktop effects do work until the screen locks up. The only way for me to recover is to restart X or power cycle the laptop. I have tested with kernel 2.6.34 and do not experience any of these problems. Has anyone else had this issue? My laptop is configuration is: Model = Lenovo T400s GPU = Intel GM45 Kernel = Linux 2.6.35.1-1-desktop x86_64 OS = openSUSE 11.3 64bit DE = KDE 4.5.0 Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Fwd: Segfault in libQtCore 4.6
by Will Stephenson 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

I don't do private performances, let's take this to the list. Are you sure that this is not a stale log message from when the system was running? I don't know why kded4 would be running before anyone logged in. Was the system idling at kdm? Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex

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[opensuse-kde] Looking for kuickshow on 11.3
by Werner Flamme 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, are there any plans to make kuickshow availably again on openSUSE 11.3? I used it in 11.2 with KDE 4.4, and I can't find it in 11.3's repos. Neither "scout webpin kuickshow" (no output at all) nor "zypper se kuickshow" ("no packages found") brings any useable packages :-( Or has it been dropped in the meantime? <mode="sarcasm">It was a program that was fast and reliable, and maybe this does not fit into KDE 4 strategy :-></mode> Regards, Werner -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxf9FsACgkQk33Krq8b42MLnQCaArB3ZFvbDIM0qBJ9VXC1jnx1 IIgAnR7J8BhHCg2PAKsnVtuislAosFlb =nryQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Can't use Groups for sending a Email to many Senders
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Hello Mates, I've created a group in Kadressbook with 4 recipients. If i'm going now to KMail, i can choose that group. If i go to send the remote Server says me: The original message was received at Mon, 9 Aug 2010 03:01:28 +0200 from balancer4.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.40] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <Editors@linux-uhd2> (reason: 550 Host unknown) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.1.2 <Editors@linux-uhd2>... Host unknown (Name server: linux-uhd2: host not found) So i think that the export to an outboundmail with using KAdressbook atm fails. Can anyone reproduce this? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20100805
by Javier Llorente 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

See http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings for further details. (sorry for the delay) Meeting summary --------------- * Old AIs (javier_, 16:27:47) * LINK: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meeting_20100624 (javier_, 16:30:19) * LINK: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-kde/2010/opensuse- kde.2010-07-22-16.09.log.html , seach for "AI:" (llunak, 16:30:55) * ACTION: Announce bug triage 13th-16th of August (javier_, 16:44:26) * ACTION: Announce bug triage 13th-16th of August (javier_) (javier_, 16:45:12) * ACTION: llunak update meeting howto (meetbot, etc.) (llunak, 16:46:31) * status report (javier_, 16:49:06) * ACTION: remur_030 read llunak's mail on -project about what a strategy is about (llunak, 17:08:15) * new items (javier_, 17:10:12) * repositories specific for KDE SC versions (e.g. 4.5.x)" (javier_, 17:12:20) * ACTION: llunak sum up KDE:SC:45 discussion and possibilities on the mailing list (llunak, 17:37:25) * dissolving KDE:Community, KDE:KDE4:Community repositories (javier_, 17:38:51) * ACTION: cb400f will announce the call for adoption of orphaned packages (javier_, 17:44:37) * Fixing and polishing kde-four-live with KDE 4.5.0 and suggest the KDE people to include a link to it in the KDE SC 4.5.0 release announcement (Alin's idea). (javier_, 17:45:21) * ACTION: wstephenson will tell upstream about the kde-four-live cd to include it in the kde sc release announcement (javier_, 17:47:35) * ACTION: wstephenson will send to the list the changes made on kde-four-live (javier_, 17:49:48) * Q&A, misc (javier_, 17:50:11) Meeting ended at 17:59:59 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * cb400f * cb400f will announce the call for adoption of orphaned packages * javier_ * Announce bug triage 13th-16th of August (javier_) * llunak * llunak update meeting howto (meetbot, etc.) * remur_030 read llunak's mail on -project about what a strategy is about * llunak sum up KDE:SC:45 discussion and possibilities on the mailing list * remur_030 * remur_030 read llunak's mail on -project about what a strategy is about * wstephenson * wstephenson will tell upstream about the kde-four-live cd to include it in the kde sc release announcement * wstephenson will send to the list the changes made on kde-four-live -- Javier Llorente

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[opensuse-kde] KDE-4.5.0 Deleting files and moving to Trash causes severe freeze ups
by Roman Bysh 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Hi all, I am experiencing severe freeze ups when deleting files from Dolphin. The only quick may is to open konsole and use rm -f <filename> Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE_BUILD_GLOBAL_SYCOCA
by Cristian Morales Vega 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Someone knows where this is used and what exactly it does? /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.windowmanager-kde4 ## Path: Desktop ## Description: prepare global sycoca database for faster first startup ## Type: list(yes,initial,no) ## Default: initial # # building a global sycoca database, which can be used at first user # login in KDE # KDE_BUILD_GLOBAL_SYCOCA="initial" Difference between "yes" and "initial"? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE-4.5.0 has no minimizing to panel features
by Roman Bysh 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hi all, I recently updated from 4.4.4 to 4.5.0. However, when minimizing applications, they no longer appear on the panel so that I can maximize. Can I restore this feature or is it lost? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE-4.5.0 has no minimizing to panel features
by Roman Bysh 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hi all, I recently updated from 4.4.4 to 4.5.0. However, when minimizing applications, they no longer appear on the panel so that I can maximize. Can I restore this feature or is it lost? -- Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] knetwork manager
by Sebastian Kügler 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hi Hans, On Monday 16 August 2010 12:48:10 Hans Krueger wrote: > thanks for the reply > sorry to answer you off list but I didn't want to start a holy war. Please do direct your replies to the list. My personal mailbox doesn't scale that well. Therefore I'm CC:ing the original list in this reply. > some people on some of this list are pretty thin skinned > in the subject I said knetwork manager > then I said I got it to work gnome meaning knetwork manger in gnome > would not work in kde that's what I meant nothing else > I tried and up grade kde to 4.5 from 4.4 something what ever suse ship > with 11.3 and that trashed kde I know it bleeding edge so you bleed a > little I redid kde that came with distro now network manager for kde works > now go figure you must be a young fellow in order to take what I said as > offensive remember it is bleeding edge so you bleed a little include you > guys on the front line arrows get it ? I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding your story, can you please try to rephrase it in a somewhat less confusing manner? I.e. what does "trashed KDE" mean, which versions are you *really* running (you can check using zypper, or the about dialog in some apps.) In short: please be specific, that vastly reduced the time we need to help out. > I know I've taken a few being an old fart my self > you need to get a thicker skin We need friendly people, not people with thicker skins. It's not those who are being offended that are wrong, but the offending people. > have a good day > if you were trying to help thanks I was. Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] knetwork manager
by Hans Krueger 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

I can get it to work gnome but not in kde4.4 suse 11.3 go figure -- Hans Krueger hanskrueger007(a)roadrunner.com registered Linux user 289023 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: KDE3: Trying to restore ksysguard
by Hans-Peter Jansen 13 Aug '10

13 Aug '10

[cc'ed opensuse-kde(a)opensuse.org] Ilya, Will is right: this deserves a public discussion. Let us prefix KDE3 matters with KDE3: in the subject, as done above, thus all those focusing on KDE4 are free to ignore these messages. Okay? On Friday 13 August 2010, 18:51:03 Ilya Chernykh wrote: > We all know that the process table in ksysguard is flickering and > ksysguard from KDE4 is required for kdebase3, this leads to installation > of all kde4 libs. > > I have just disabled requirement for KDE4 ksysguard and installed package > kdebase3-workspace-ksysguardd from SLE10. And - surprise! The process > table now looks excellent! > > The problem is kdebase3-workspace-ksysguardd and > kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd conflict with each other. So I am trying to > allow user to make choise: to install ksysguard daemon from KDE3 or KDE4. > Anyway I am sure I am going in right direction, so kdebase3 should not > require kde4 libs. Interesting observation. The question is: Is there any chance to make this work in a non conflicting way with pure KDE3 and mixed KDE3/KDE4 setups? And yes, you're right. KDE3 should not depend in any way on KDE4. Obviously, this is going back to #379351, where Mike Fabian complains about a conflict between kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd and kdebase3-ksysguardd. Stephan Binner fixed it by dropping kdebase3-ksysguardd, and relying on kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd, which is incompatible with KDE3 ksysguard now. I see two possible fixes: - reenable kdebase3-ksysguard and relocate it to say /usr/bin/ksysguardd3. - fix the incompatibilities The disability to show a useful process table with Ctrl-Esc in KDE3 is nagging me for quite a while. Personally, I've load of possibilities for this very task, but most of the users I'm responsible for haven't, and more importantly, aren't interested in any alternatives, I can offer... Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Re: Network-manager
by Will Stephenson 13 Aug '10

13 Aug '10

On Friday 13 August 2010 10:48:46 Ilya Chernykh wrote: > According to some reports, the Network-manager in KDE:KDE3 does not work > with modern NM core. It seems we should find the old NM core somewhere and > add it to our repo. I personally do not use NM and have no idea which > version of NM we need. > > Any thoughts? I think we should have this discussion on the opensuse-kde(a)opensuse.org list :). Alexander Naumov did some work with KDE 3 knetworkmanager, perhaps he wants to maintain it going forward in KDE:KDE3 with you. Backporting old NM would break very quickly due to newer kernel versions and the removal of HAL in newer distros. It would be better to fix NetworkManager-kde (or even use the KDE 4 version). Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE Bug Triage (13th-16th of August)
by Javier Llorente 11 Aug '10

11 Aug '10

Hello there, It’s my pleasure to announce the next KDE Bug triage :-) It will begin next Friday (13th) and end on Monday (16th). The aim of this bug triage is to help make KDE a bit better. You don’t need to have any special skills. The most important thing is that you’re interested in helping us to clean the bug list so developers can focus on fixing the bugs! So, let’s squash bugs together! Join us in the #opensuse-kde IRC channel on Freenode :-) For more info on bug squashing KDE, take a look at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Squashing_KDE To see a list of open bugs go here (automatically generated). http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Squashing_KDE_bugreports Happy KDE bug squashing! -- Javier Llorente

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[opensuse-kde] KDE Bug Triage (13th-16th of August)
by Javier Llorente 11 Aug '10

11 Aug '10

Hello there, It’s my pleasure to announce the next KDE Bug triage :-) It will begin next Friday (13th) and end on Monday (16th). The aim of this bug triage is to help make KDE a bit better. You don’t need to have any special skills. The most important thing is that you’re interested in helping us to clean the bug list so developers can focus on fixing the bugs! So, let’s squash bugs together! Join us in the #opensuse-kde IRC channel on Freenode :-) For more info on bug squashing KDE, take a look at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Squashing_KDE To see a list of open bugs go here (automatically generated). http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Squashing_KDE_bugreports Happy KDE bug squashing! -- Javier Llorente

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 5th August, 16:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 11 Aug '10

11 Aug '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held on Thursday 2nd April, at 16:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * repositories specific for KDE SC versions (e.g. 4.5.x) * dissolving KDE:Community, KDE:KDE4:Community repositories * old action items * status report * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=5&month=8&year=201… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] unsubscribe
by Guido Kölsch 10 Aug '10

10 Aug '10

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[opensuse-kde] Transfer your packages from KDE:KDE4:Community to KDE:Extra
by Stephan Kleine 10 Aug '10

10 Aug '10

Hi guys, you either receive this email because you are listed as maintainer for KDE:KDE4:Community or are subscribed to opensuse-kde (and I couldn't be bothered to sort out the emails so my apologies if I'm telling you the obvious). Point being: KDE:KDE4:Community will get nuked soon and the new place is KDE:Extra See recent threads on opensuse-kde or http://old- en.opensuse.org/KDE/Extra_Repository for details. Therefore please be so kind to review the packages you are interested in and submit them to KDE:Extra. Also please get rid of the "kde4-" prefix and add some proper Provides and Obsoletes in the specs header. For any question just ask on the opensuse-kde or opensuse-buildservice MLs or IRC. Following the new policy you either have to use SRs to submit your packages and normally will get only maintainership for your single package. If you would like to become repo wide maintainer of KDE:Extra please apply on the opensuse-kde ML and read the above wiki link before to make sure you understand what that would mean (as in responsibilities). Also please make sure to remove any transferred packages from KDE:KDE4:Community since this makes it much easier to see what already got transferred. Thanks a lot & best regards, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Any support to fund the development of `kmail replies in HTML'?
by Pablo Sanchez 10 Aug '10

10 Aug '10

Howdy, Recently, on `kdepim-users', there was a lively discussion [1] on whether KMail should have `reply-HTML' support. An outstanding KDE Wish [2] was opened on August 2nd, 2004 and to date, has 2,501 votes. One idea I had was given the number of votes, perhaps the user community is willing to fund the enhancement. Ingo Klöcker guesti-mated it'd be a two month effort. At 50 USD per hour (not a stellar rate), we'd need to collect 16,000 USD to roll out this enhancement. If 1,200 of the 2,501 people who voted for this enhancement chipped in 13.33 USD, we could get it done. :) At the moment, we have four people who have pledged a total of roughly 200 USD. My question for the group is ... If Wish 86423 is important to you and you're financially able to, how much would you be willing to pledge for its development? Please only respond if you're willing to pledge more than zero USD. ;) What we're not discussing ... ============================= In order to keep this thread focused, please start a different thread if you'd like to discuss the merits of any of the following: :) o The merits of being able to reply with HTML. o Using a different Mail user agent (MUA) [3]. o Whether HTML in e-mail is _always_ evil. References ========== [1] - http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-users&w=4&r=1&s=html+kmail&q=b [2] - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86423 [3] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_user_agent What's in it for me? ==================== Frankly, nothing. :) Personally, I prefer text over HTML. However there are some rare situations where it'd be nice to reply in HTML. However I generally need to do this once every three months. I'm not out to make a buck from this. My plan would be to set up a simple web page with a form where someone would submit their username and pledge amount. I can see someone saying I'm collecting e-mail addresses to spam. So if there's an alternative suggesting on how to set something up, I'm all ears! :) Cheers, -- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph: 819.459.1926 Fax: 760.860.5225 (US) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Missing packages
by Scott Newton 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

Hi Are there any plans to include the following packages in the 4.4.4 repositories as defined by: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories#STABLE_.28KDE_4.4.29 kde4-kopete-protocol-skype kde4-plasmoid-toggle_compositing plasmoid-luna2 Thanks -- Regards Scott Newton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Programs disappear when minimized
by upscope 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

All of a sudden when I minimize a gui interface it is no longer showing in the panel. I had seen this once before and I thought it was a setting in Konqueror but I cannot find it. Has anyone run into this? It worked for about a week after I reinstalled 11.3 -(default or desktop do it), and KDE 4.4.4 release 5. Then they began disappearing. PS -A shows them and I can cancel them. Any ideas? Thanks -- upscope -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Error since osc ci for skrooge
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

Hello Mates, i've just updated my Spec from Skrooge [1]. But if i'm typing 'osc ci' i've got this message: error: Summary field must be present in package: (main package) ERROR: source_validator failed Has anyone seen this before? [1] http://susepaste.org/3530166 -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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[opensuse-kde] Re: Transfer your packages from KDE:KDE4:Community to KDE:Extra
by Lubos Lunak 06 Aug '10

06 Aug '10

On Thursday 05 of August 2010, Pavol Rusnak wrote: > On 08/05/2010 09:04 PM, Martin Schlander wrote: > > So you may want to check if any of the packages up for adoption are of > > interest to you before they are nuked. > > By nuking you mean deleting or moving to openSUSE:Dropped? I suggest the > latter. Description says openSUSE:Dropped is only for factory packages, and that's not those in the KDE*Community repositories. I will probably make a backup before deleting the repos, but frankly a lot of those packages, especially the KDE3 ones, are very unlikely to be picked up by anyone. PS: Please keep any following discussion only on opensuse-kde. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kde-obs-generator: how to install files conditionally on the KDE version
by David Jarvie 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

I'm using the KDE OpenSUSE build service to build my KDE application. There are some files which need to be installed for systems which provide KDE 4.2, but not for KDE 4.3 or later. I've tried a couple of methods in the .spec file to specify this, but the build failed each time. How can I specify this condition? One example of what I've tried is: %install %kde4_makeinstall -C build for lang in kalarm; do %find_lang $lang %{name}.lang done if test %{kde4_minor_version} -le 2 ; then echo %dir %{_kde4_appsdir}/kalarm/holidays >>%{name}.lang echo %{_kde4_appsdir}/kalarm/holidays/holiday_* >>%{name}.lang fi ... This just produces some syntax error which unfortunately doesn't give enough of a hint as to why it's going wrong: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.lTgUWL: line 28: syntax error near unexpected token `(' error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.lTgUWL (%install) -- David Jarvie. KAlarm author and maintainer. http://www.astrojar.org.uk/kalarm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Problem with Kephal using factory/Unstable:SC?
by todd rme 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

I am trying to build a program that depends on kephal using OBS, and it builds fine when built against the Distro:Stable repos or the openSUSE repos, but it fails with this error message when built against Distro:Factory and Unstable:SC or when built on my local (distro:factory) machine: CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKephal.cmake:24 (MESSAGE): Could not find Kephal It looks like this script might be trying to find a file named kephal/screens.h, but this file doesn't seem to be available. I am not sure whether I am doing something wrong, or whether there is a problem with KDE 4.5+, or whether there is a problem with openSUSE's version. Does anyone have any ideas what might be happening? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.4.5 or 4.5
by upscope 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Is KDE 4.4.5 or KDE 4.5 available in a repo somewher. I have a problem with akonadi and the KDE mailing list suggested upgrading to one of them. Thanks -- upscope -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] opensuse 11.3 kde hibernate/suspend only locks screen
by Andrew Colvin 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hi all, I have upgraded my laptop to 11.3 from 11.1 and everything works fine except hibernate and suspend options in the kicker menu only locks the screen and not do suspend/hibernate. If i run pm-hibernate or pm-suspend then everything works correctly and restarts correctly. Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Early notice: openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 5th August, 16:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held on Thursday 5th August, at 16:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * repositories specific for KDE SC versions (e.g. 4.5.x) * dissolving KDE:Community, KDE:KDE4:Community repositories * old action items * status report * calls for testing * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Explicit maintainers/bugowners for KDE:Extra packages
by Lubos Lunak 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hello, as said during the last IRC meeting, if a package in KDE:Extra does not have an explicit maintainer/bugowner set for the package itself (i.e. its maintainers/bugowners come from the repo-wide list), then it is considered to be maintained by the team as a whole. That means with all the consequences, such as the package possibly getting deleted if decided on this list. If you have a package in KDE:Extra that you consider to be "yours" and want to make sure you're notified in such cases, please ensure that you are set as maintainer or bugowner of the package (either set it yourself or ask as a reply to this mail). http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Extra_repository#Maintaining_repository -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Removing KDE:Community repository
by Lubos Lunak 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

You are receiving this mail because you are set as a maintainer or bugowner for the KDE:Community repository or a package present there. Any possible discussion should happen on the opensuse-kde(a)opensuse.org mailing list. To finish the reorganization and cleanup of the KDE repositories, the KDE:Community repository will be either renamed or removed (after a grace period). The reasons for this are: - KDE:Community contains software based on KDE3. Since openSUSE distribution no longer supports KDE3 and the KDE:KDE3 repository is poorly maintained, it is assumed that the majority of packages in KDE:Community is in a similar situation. For the KDE3 parts that are still maintained it would make sense to consolidate this effort only in one repository. - The naming of KDE:Community is based on the obsolete notion of community and "non-community" packages, which no longer applies to openSUSE, thus the name of the repository is obsolete and pointless. There are roughly these options: - You maintain a package in KDE:Community which is not KDE3/Qt3-based and you wish to continue maintaining this package - please move the package to a more appropriate repository (such as the KDE:Extra repository, see http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Extra_repository) - You maintain a package in KDE:Community which is KDE3/Qt3 based and you wish to continue maintaining this package - please move the package to the KDE:KDE3 repository. You can ask for the opensuse-kde mailing list for any help such as getting maintainer rights for a package there (or even the whole repository if you are willing to help maintaining it, see http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3) - You don't care - just leave it as it is, the package will be eventually removed together with the repository. - Some other option - use the opensuse-kde mailing list for discussion. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE repositories status
by Lubos Lunak 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hello, for those you missed the last meeting and its conclusion on the KDE repository reorganization, the whole KDE structure is described at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_repositories_maintaining . I've added also KDE:Qt* repos there, as well as KDE:Medias and KDE:Netbook, although I don't really know much about how those work. Could whoever feels reposible for those update the page? One repo still left at the top level of KDE: is KDE:Community, which will be removed, details in another mail. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Re: [opensuse-kde] Moving kbackup to KDE:Extra
by Raymond Wooninck 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

On Monday 02 August 2010 14:29:59 Martin Koller wrote: > On Monday 02 August 2010 11:04:02 Lubos Lunak wrote: > > can do submit requests to update the version in KDE:Extra, but if you > > give me your OBS account name, I'll give you maintainer rights for the > > package there. > > my account name is martinkoller Hi Martin, I have added you as maintainer for the kbackup package. Happy Packaging !! Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Re: [opensuse-kde] Moving kbackup to KDE:Extra
by Martin Koller 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

On Monday 02 August 2010 11:04:02 Lubos Lunak wrote: > On Friday 30 of July 2010, Martin Koller wrote: > > On Friday 30 July 2010 14:28:12 Raymond Wooninck wrote: > > > I just moved kbackup to the KDE:Extra repository and it has been build > > > successfully. Please let me know if you want to have maintainership for > > > this package so that you can keep it up-to-date. If yes, then please let > > > me know your OBS userid. > > > > That's great! Thanks a lot! > > > > In KDE:KDE4:Community kbackup was linked from my home project > > home:martinkoller > kbackup-kde4 ( > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kbackup-kde4&project=home%3 > >Amartinkoller ) and when I uploaded a new version, it was automatically also > > rebuilt in the KDE4 repository. Is this still the case for KDE:Extra ? > > If so, do I need additional rights in there ? > > I don't know why you had to switch mailing lists, but anyway. Sorry, this was a wrong setup in kmail's mailing list management... I'm replying now again to the correct initial list. > Currently you > can do submit requests to update the version in KDE:Extra, but if you give me > your OBS account name, I'll give you maintainer rights for the package there. my account name is martinkoller -- Best regards/Schöne Grüße Martin () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Different vendors fo Extra and Playground
by Christian Trippe 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hi, it would be nice if you could enable again to have different vendors for KDE:Extra and KDE:Unstable:Playground then the one for the main repos like KDE:Distro:* Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Further changes for KDE:Unstable:SC repository
by Raymond Wooninck 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

On Sunday 01 August 2010 19:29:07 todd rme wrote: > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Martin Schlander > > <martin.schlander(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > The answer: Unstable:SC users should be able to use the packages from > > KDE:UpdatedApps - and the base distro I guess - to get stable versions > > of NON- SC apps. As these packages generally should be "forward > > compatible". > This would work, but only so long as every non-SC package is in > updatedapps, even those that haven't actually been updated. Todd, I will personally check that every package I move out of Unstable, is in KDE:UpdatedApps. If not, then I will validate if there was a version update and if so, I will place it in KDE:UpdatedApps. If there is no version update, then of course you would be able to find it in the standard distribution repo. If something does not work in this setup, then please let me/us know. Either through this mailinglist or on IRC (#opensuse-kde). Thanks. Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Where are categories in Address Book?
by Bob Williams 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

I've just upgraded to oS 11.3 + KDE4.4. I use Kontact for e-mail, addresses etc. and I've got several mail lists set up based on categories. These mail lists are still available in Kmail, but I cannot find how to add a category to a person's entry in the new look Address Book. Has it gone, or am I looking in the wrong place? Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.3, Kernel 2.6.34.12-desktop, KDE 4.4.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Further changes for KDE:Unstable:SC repository
by Raymond Wooninck 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

As that the renaming of the openSUSE KDE related repositories has been completed, it is time to introduce the second step for the KDE:Unstable:SC repository. The intention is to minimize this particular repository to the pure KDE SC weekly snapshots from trunk and the required libraries/applications for building and running the Unstable desktop. All other applications (e.g. Amarok, Konversation, etc) will be moved out to the other repositories. With the new snapshot 4.5.62 a couple of them have already been moved to KDE:Unstable:Playground. These are the packages for Amarok, Choqok, Konversation and Rekonq. I also updated these applications to their respective latest svn/git snapshots. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Further changes for KDE:Unstable:SC repository
by Raymond Wooninck 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

On Saturday 31 July 2010 17:48:38 todd rme wrote: > I stated this before, but this really concerns me. When we get around > to beta/RC stage of KDE SC, people will be able to use a mostly stable > KDE SC, but they will be forced to use it with perhaps the pre-alpha > level versions of popular programs like amarok that will be found in > the playground repository. This could very well be the case for any > KDE-based software that does not synchronize with KDE SC release > cycle. I think people using the unstable repository need to have a > way to install stable versions of KDE software that is not part of KDE > SC, or there will be a very serious risk of making the Unstable > repository nearly much unusable in practice (since no remotely stable > version of key software will necessarily be available). Dear Todd, I believe that with the Beta cycle for KDE 4.5 it was the frst time that people switched over to the Unstable repository to get their hands on KDE 4.5. What must not be forgotten is that the Unstable Repository doesn't have most of the openSUSE patches in place, nor does it come with any warranty. Since already a couple of months we had the situation where the Amarok and Konversation packages in this repository were updated from trunk in the same frequency as the KDE desktop itself. The intention for the Unstable repository is that it would be co-installable besided the normal supported KDE desktop (KDE:Distro:Factory). This in the same manor as we had with KDE3 and KDE4. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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