[opensuse-kde] Different vendors fo Extra and Playground
Hi, it would be nice if you could enable again to have different vendors for KDE:Extra and KDE:Unstable:Playground then the one for the main repos like KDE:Distro:* Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 26 of July 2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
Hi,
it would be nice if you could enable again to have different vendors for KDE:Extra and KDE:Unstable:Playground then the one for the main repos like KDE:Distro:*
Ok, I think I've created separate vendors for those, but I wonder now, does it actually make sense to have it for KDE:Extra? What would be the point? There shouldn't be packages that can be also in KDE:Distro and they kind of belong together (Extra is an extension of Distro), so IMO they should share the same vendor. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday July 28 2010 17:17:00 Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Monday 26 of July 2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
Hi,
it would be nice if you could enable again to have different vendors for KDE:Extra and KDE:Unstable:Playground then the one for the main repos like KDE:Distro:*
Ok, I think I've created separate vendors for those, but I wonder now, does it actually make sense to have it for KDE:Extra? What would be the point? There shouldn't be packages that can be also in KDE:Distro and they kind of belong together (Extra is an extension of Distro), so IMO they should share the same vendor.
E.g. there were new amarok or k3b versions while factory was frozen for 11.3 so having a different vendor than KDE:Distro is essential to not getting updated to those. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 17:17:00 Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Monday 26 of July 2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
Hi,
it would be nice if you could enable again to have different vendors for KDE:Extra and KDE:Unstable:Playground then the one for the main repos like KDE:Distro:*
Ok, I think I've created separate vendors for those, but I wonder now, does it actually make sense to have it for KDE:Extra? What would be the point? There shouldn't be packages that can be also in KDE:Distro and they kind of belong together (Extra is an extension of Distro), so IMO they should share the same vendor.
On the one hand I agree with you, if everything is perfect the same vendor should be fine. However, as Stephan already wrote, during the freeze in Factory the Community repo was also used for version updates of digikam and others. I do not know if this will happen again, if not, then the same vendor should probably be fine. However there are sometimes packages which are first only in the Community/Extra repo which then go into the distro. If such a package is then still build for the Distro repos which already include it, it also may lead to confusion. So all in all I would say a different vendor is more save/better IMHO. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday July 28 2010 18:16:03 Christian Trippe wrote:
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 17:17:00 Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Monday 26 of July
2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
Hi,
it would be nice if you could
enable again to have different vendors for
KDE:Extra and
KDE:Unstable:Playground then the one for the main repos
like
KDE:Distro:*
Ok, I think I've created separate vendors for those, but
I wonder now,
does it actually make sense to have it for KDE:Extra? What
would be the
point? There shouldn't be packages that can be also in
KDE:Distro and they
kind of belong together (Extra is an extension of
Distro), so IMO they
should share the same vendor.
On the one hand I agree with you, if everything is perfect the same vendor should be fine. However, as Stephan already wrote, during the freeze in Factory the Community repo was also used for version updates of digikam and others. I do not know if this will happen again, if not, then the same vendor should probably be fine. However there are sometimes packages which are first only in the Community/Extra repo which then go into the distro. If such a package is then still build for the Distro repos which already include it, it also may lead to confusion.
In that case it should get removed from :Extra and only build within :Distro which builds for the same versions so nothing is lost.
So all in all I would say a different vendor is more save/better IMHO. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 of July 2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
On the one hand I agree with you, if everything is perfect the same vendor should be fine. However, as Stephan already wrote, during the freeze in Factory the Community repo was also used for version updates of digikam and others. I do not know if this will happen again, if not, then the same vendor should probably be fine.
I see. But that appears to be wrong, that'd mean that KDE:Extra every 8 months gets several packages for only a month and then they're removed again. Such packages should be provided only by KDE:UpdatedApps outside of KDE:Distro. Which actually means that the situation would get slightly more complicated during factory freeze, but I still think it's simpler to do a full copy of a newer version in UpdatedApps rather than have temporaries in Extra. Does somebody see a good reason not to do it that way?
However there are sometimes packages which are first only in the Community/Extra repo which then go into the distro. If such a package is then still build for the Distro repos which already include it, it also may lead to confusion.
They should not be provided for such distributions. IMO KDE:Extra and KDE:Distro should never provide the same package (for the same target). -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday July 29 2010 17:28:48 Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Wednesday 28 of July 2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
On the one hand I agree with you, if everything is perfect the same vendor should be fine. However, as Stephan already wrote, during the freeze in Factory the Community repo was also used for version updates of digikam and others. I do not know if this will happen again, if not, then the same vendor should probably be fine.
I see. But that appears to be wrong, that'd mean that KDE:Extra every 8 months gets several packages for only a month and then they're removed again. Such packages should be provided only by KDE:UpdatedApps outside of KDE:Distro. Which actually means that the situation would get slightly more complicated during factory freeze, but I still think it's simpler to do a full copy of a newer version in UpdatedApps rather than have temporaries in Extra.
Does somebody see a good reason not to do it that way?
Then it should be ok if :Distro & :Extra have the same vendor but :UpdatedApps should have a different one so I am able to use only $X from :UpdatedApps while sticking with :Distro for other apps that are also in :UpdatedApps.
However there are sometimes packages which are first only in the Community/Extra repo which then go into the distro. If such a package is then still build for the Distro repos which already include it, it also may lead to confusion.
They should not be provided for such distributions. IMO KDE:Extra and KDE:Distro should never provide the same package (for the same target).
Agreed. If something gets moved from :Extra to :Distro or the other way round binaries should get removed from the old place (for the associated targets) and enabled on the new place for said targets. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 of July 2010, Stephan Kleine wrote:
On Thursday July 29 2010 17:28:48 Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Wednesday 28 of July 2010, Christian Trippe wrote:
On the one hand I agree with you, if everything is perfect the same vendor should be fine. However, as Stephan already wrote, during the freeze in Factory the Community repo was also used for version updates of digikam and others. I do not know if this will happen again, if not, then the same vendor should probably be fine.
I see. But that appears to be wrong, that'd mean that KDE:Extra every 8 months gets several packages for only a month and then they're removed again. Such packages should be provided only by KDE:UpdatedApps outside of KDE:Distro. Which actually means that the situation would get slightly more complicated during factory freeze, but I still think it's simpler to do a full copy of a newer version in UpdatedApps rather than have temporaries in Extra.
Does somebody see a good reason not to do it that way?
Then it should be ok if :Distro & :Extra have the same vendor but :UpdatedApps should have a different one so I am able to use only $X from :UpdatedApps while sticking with :Distro for other apps that are also in :UpdatedApps.
Ok. I've removed the extra vendor, so KDE:Extra has the same vendor again. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_UpdatedApps_repository has been updated to mention the case of providing a newer version there when KDF is frozen. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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