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Re: [opensuse-kde] Black background with Suse 11.2 and KDE4
by Roger Oberholtzer 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 17:45 +0200, Will Stephenson wrote: > On Thursday 02 September 2010 07:58:38 Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > (I am posting this to you as I have not set up a file exchange. Other > > than DropBox.) > > > > Here are the screen shots. It is a new install of 11.2. The disk is new, > > so there is nothing from any previous OS. The update that 11.2 offers to > > do was not done, so this is what you get with the install DVD. I have > > other systems where the update had been done, and it makes no > > difference. > > > > The graphics card is a new nvidia card. I can get the details. But I > > have seen this on other systems with other cards. For example, I have a > > different system with an ATI Rage XL that does the same thing. > > > > As you will see in the screen shots, it is ok for root, but no one else. > > This is consistent in all installs with this issue. Which, for us, is > > 50% of them. Up until now this was bearable as we have been using > > internal systems. But now some of our customers want to update to > > openSUSE 11.2 and, and we have experienced this problem on those systems > > as well. > > > > If you need me to try anything I can. > > Hi Roger > > I thought this issue was going to be easy but I have installed a clean, un- > updated 11.2 and it didn't reproduce the issue as I expected. > > Basically, we saw this behaviour on openSUSE 11.3 due to a wrong splitting of > the kdebase4-runtime package into kdebase4-runtime and kdebase4-runtime- > branding-upstream. This is not the case in openSUSE 11.2, either default > 4.3.1 or updated to 4.3.5. > > However it looks so similar to the 11.3 issue that I want to double check on > your affected systems and exclude it. > > * > > It all revolves around files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme. These are > the elements used by the Plasma workspaces for theming. The default theme > (currently 'Air') lives in 'default' under this path. The configured theme > provides its own theming elements and defines a theme it falls back to to > locate elements that the theme does not replace, eg air-netbook falls back to > default (Air). If an element is not found in either of these locations, > Plasma has a hardcoded fallback to oxygen. This is apparently where your > screenshots are getting the black theme elements from. There is "Air" and "Air openSUSE". Which is the default? I have chosen "Air openSUSE" here. The porclem exists no matter which one I choose. With oxygen, I can at least read text as it is white, With the others, it is black on a black background. > A theme is defined including its fallback in > /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/<themename>/metadata.desktop > > * > > The configured theme is stored in ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc in the Theme > group eg > > [Theme] > name=air-netbook This is a plasmarc on an offending system: [$Version] update_info=plasma_popupapplet_fix_groups.upd:PlasmaPopupAppletFixGroups2 [Theme] name=openSUSEdefault > > This name comes from the contents of the > /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/openSUSEdefault/metadata.desktop file. Mine looks like this: [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=t Name=Air openSUSE Comment=A breath of fresh air X-KDE-PluginInfo-Author=The Oxygen Project X-KDE-PluginInfo-Email=kde-artists(a)kde.org X-KDE-PluginInfo-Name=openSUSEdefault X-KDE-PluginInfo-Version=0.9 X-KDE-PluginInfo-Website=http://plasma.kde.org X-KDE-PluginInfo-Category= X-KDE-PluginInfo-Depends= X-KDE-PluginInfo-License=GPL X-KDE-PluginInfo-EnabledByDefault=true > * > > With this in mind, my failure hypothesis is that somehow the theme is not > readable to your affected users. To check this, see what theme is configured > in their plasmarc, look in its metadata.desktop and see what fallback theme > this is. If the settings are default, it should be 'openSUSEdefault' which > has no fallback defined (it provides a full set of elements). Check that this > is readable to the user. Then check if > /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/<themename> is readable for your affected > users. If there is a fallback theme (eg default) check that > /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default is populated (contains eg > widgets/panel-background.svgz) and contains a readable metadata.desktop. I have checked all the files/directories in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/ and they are readable by ugo I also did "find /usr/share/kde4 ! -readable" as an unlucky user, and nothing was listed. > * > > If there is no smoking gun here and the default theme is present and readable, > try making Air openSUSE fallback to default, by adding > > [Settings] > FallbackTheme=default > > to > > /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/openSUSEdefault/metadata.desktop > as root, then restarting plasma-desktop with > > kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 2 && plasma-desktop > > This is a shot in the dark. > I get this: % kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 2 & plasma-desktop [1] 8558 Invalid D-BUS interface name 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' found while parsing introspection and no desktop at all. My console window is all that is left. So I logged out/in. The desktop started now, but still no joy. Black remained popular. So I removed these lines jic. > * > > My other failure hypothesis is that there is a bug in the plasma cache (used > to speed up drawing SVG elements). There are a number of bugs in the cache > code which are hard to backport to KDE 4.3 since the code was replaced in 4.4. > and 4.5. You could try forcing the cache to be recreated by logging the user > out, removing /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/kpc and logging back in again. > I deleted all the user's kde files in /tmp and /var/tmp. It made no difference. I did the same again, and deleted the user's .kde4 directory. No difference. I have verified that it works ok for root. It is only non-root users that have this issue. > HTH It was educational. But the problem remains. It does really act like a permission problem. But where? I checked if the contents of /usr are readable by a non-root user, and I see some files are not readable. Aside from some html docs, this is what I get: /usr/bin/keygen /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/bin/sperl5.10.0 /usr/bin/X /usr/sbin/klogconsole /usr/sbin/glibc_post_upgrade /usr/lib/mpi/gcc/openmpi/share/man/man1/mpiCC.1 /usr/lib/python2.6/ssl.pyc /usr/lib/PolicyKit/polkit-grant-helper-pam /usr/lib/lsb/remove_initd /usr/lib/lsb/install_initd /usr/lib/ooo3/share/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/5JWFva /usr/lib/ooo3/share/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/wg7jmG /usr/lib/ooo3/share/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/nAC1OJ /usr/lib/ooo3/share/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/M3U2VJ /usr/lib/ooo3/share/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/jnkvHX /usr/lib/cups/backend/hpfax /usr/lib/cups/backend/http /usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp /usr/lib/qt4/examples/painting/svgviewer/svgviewer /usr/lib/qt4/demos/browser/browser Not so unexpected. I really do not know what to do. I can't ignore lots of rather standard machines that I am trying to do these installs on. I really cannot see how the hardware could result in the desktop acting differently for non-root users. I have looked at the .xsession-errors files for root and others. I see one complaint in the non-root user file that is not in the root file: kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klipper.so Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/hp-systray", line 35, in <module> from base import utils, module File "/usr/share/hplip/base/module.py", line 30, in <module> import tui, utils, device File "/usr/share/hplip/base/device.py", line 25, in <module> import gzip File "/usr/lib/python2.6/gzip.py", line 9, in <module> import zlib ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/zlib.so: undefined symbol: inflateCopy Object::connect: No such signal SystemTray::Manager::jobStateChanged(SystemTray::Job*) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::Redland::BackendPlugin) creating model of type "hashes" with options "hash-type='bdb',contexts='yes',dir='/home/rst/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/redland',new='yes'" kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_desktop.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_trash.so [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::Redland::BackendPlugin) creating model of type "hashes" with options "hash-type='bdb',contexts='yes',dir='/home/rst/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/',new='yes'" "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(13802)" Error in thread 3044128512 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject - No such object path '/org/soprano/Server'" "/usr/bin/kdeinit4(13802)" Error in thread 3044128512 : "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" Not sure if this is where the theme is involved. But I guess any detail might help. I have on-site access to a machine that exhibits this problem until early Thursday afternoon. After that it gets more difficult to try things. But I will do my best to try any further suggestions you might have.! -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kio_sysinfo - all text and images appear are justified to the left - openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 1 of 6
by Roman Bysh 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

Hello Listmates, Clicking on My Computer shows all text and images justified to the left in openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 1 of 6 Cannot view the correct layout. Please refer to openSUSE 11.3. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Clicking on My Computer 2. Images appear unclear 3. Text and layout justified to the left Actual Results: Images appear unclear Text and layout justified to the left Expected Results: 1. Clicking on My Computer 2. Center justification 3. Images appear on the entire page with text Please refer to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=637610 Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Upgrading to KDE 4.5.1 from new installed openSUSE 11.3
by Freek de Kruijf 07 Sep '10

07 Sep '10

I needed to refresh my 11.3 installation, so I had KDE 4.4.4 installed. I added KDE:Distro:Factory and Extra and Playground, but the last 2 do not have a relation to my problem AFAIK. Trying to use the versions of the packages in KDF by choosing Repositories and clicking on Enable the packages in that repository shows a number of dependencies to be solved. One is python-sip >= 4.11 missing. Searching for this package shows that it is available in a.o. KDE:Qt. So I assume this should be mentioned on http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories#Factory_.28KDE_4.5.29 or the remark should be removed on http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_repositories#Qt_4.6_release that this repository is not needed or the packages in KDE:Qt should be in KDF. Installation of python-sip-4.11 , using one-click-install succeeds after resolving a number of dependencies by keeping older versions. After that I tried to upgrade all packages in KDF, which only partly succeeded after solving quite a large number of dependencies by keeping older versions of packages. In my case around 10. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.5.x Dolphin freezes when using CUT/COPY of files
by Roman Bysh 07 Sep '10

07 Sep '10

Dear Listmates, I am using 11.3 64-bit with KDE 4.5.1. Every time I use Dolphin for cut and copy of files, it takes 20 seconds or more for the process to complete. However, this problem does NOT exist with Konqueror. I was hoping that this was resolved in 4.5.1. Am I the only one that is experiencing this? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kontact/kmail v.2: nothing provides kdepim4-runtime = 4.4.93
by phanisvara das 07 Sep '10

07 Sep '10

trying to install kontact v.2 from /repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/SC:/kdepim45 i find that "nothing provides kdepim4-runtime = 4.4.93". in the repo itself only kdepim4-runtime-4.4.92-1.5.x86_64.rpm is available. this has been the case for a week or so and i'm wondering if i should ignore this dependency, or if 4.4.93 will be provided any time soon? -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] python-sip 4.11
by Tony 07 Sep '10

07 Sep '10

Wanting to take the kde 4.5.1 plunge, several packages (plasmoids from extra factory), are saying it can't find python-sip 4.11 I have found python-sip 4.11 in several kde:qt repos, is there one in particular I should use or does not matter ? Thanks in advance, Tony -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE3 packages in openSUSE:Factory
by Lubos Lunak 04 Sep '10

04 Sep '10

Hello, as discussed during the last IRC meeting, there is still a number of Qt3/KDE3 based software shipped with the openSUSE distribution and at least some of those could be removed or replaced with the Qt4/KDE4 counterpart (and for some it's actually "should", openSUSE 11.3 for example ships plain C bindings for Qt3 8-O ). I've created a wiki page with a list of all these packages at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Factory_KDE3_packages . Feel free to edit and update as appropriate. It is planned for the next IRC meeting that the results will be discussed if necessary and then the recommendations will be carried out. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20100902
by Lubos Lunak 03 Sep '10

03 Sep '10

See http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings for futher details. == Old action items == * llunak update meeting howto (meetbot, etc.) ** not done, done after the meeting * wstephenson start KDE:45 project implementation discussion on list ** started, in progress * kde-four-reloaded-team polish while waiting for KDE:45 to come on tap ** still waiting for KDE:45 repo * wstephenson put package list in gitorious ** not done * javier_ bugreport for yast to use oxygen icons in installer ** done == Replacing more openSUSE:Factory KDE3 packages with KDE4 versions == * there is still a number of Qt3/KDE3 based software in the openSUSE distribution * some of those are obviously obsolete, unsupported or have Qt4/KDE4 counterparts * a list of them is at [[openSUSE:Factory_KDE3_packages]] * the list should be populated with information about the status of those packages, possibilities of their replacements and their usefulness * AI: everybody add information to the http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Factory_KDE3_packages list as appropriate == Status report == * KDE Platform, Workspaces and Applications 4.5.1 have been released * KDE:Qt updated to Qt 4.7 rc1 * KDE3-specific mailing list opensuse-kde3(a)opensuse.org == Action items == * wstephenson put package list in gitorious * everybody add information to the http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Factory_KDE3_packages list as appropriate -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20100819
by Lubos Lunak 02 Sep '10

02 Sep '10

See http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings for futher details. == Old action items == * cb400f will announce the call for adoption of orphaned packages ** done * javier_: Announce bug triage 13th-16th of August ** done * llunak update meeting howto (meetbot, etc.) ** not done * llunak lead discussion about KDE:45 repo on opensuse-kde list ** discussion already started * wstephenson will send to the list the changes made on kde-four-live ** not done, but communicated directly == Status report == * KDE-Four-Live released * KDE SC 4.5.0 released * bug triage took place == Stopping fixing of KDE3 == * It's been suggested to stop fixing KDE3 packages/repos since it is perceived as maintaining and this may cause confusion making users unaware of the fact that KDE3 is not maintained in practice (upstream dead,etc) * The repository will see occassional fixes as long as people are interested in doing them * The only proper way to point people to the repository should be its http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3 wiki (and not e.g. the download.opensuse.org URL), so that users are aware of the repository's status == KDE ideas for openSUSE 11.4 == * [[openSUSE:KDE_ideas_11.4]] * VLC has been suggested as the default Phonon backed, but it needs to be first submitted to Factory and tested before this can be evaluated == Keeping kdebase3 etc for 11.4 == * There may be 3rd party applications still using Qt3/KDE3 libraries * The decision will be postponed until (milestone 6) == Repositories specific for KDE SC 4.5 == * javier_ is doing branding work for open-PC and wanted to base on KDE:Distro:Factory, but would be willing help maintaining a 4.5 repo * AI: wstephenson start KDE:45 project implementation discussion on list == KDE Four Reloaded image call for testing/feedback == * depends on the 4.5 repository * AI: kde-four-reloaded-team polish while waiting for KDE:45 to come on tap * AI: wstephenson put package list in gitorious == Action items == * llunak update meeting howto (meetbot, etc.) * wstephenson start KDE:45 project implementation discussion on list * kde-four-reloaded-team polish while waiting for KDE:45 to come on tap * wstephenson put package list in gitorious * javier_ bugreport for yast to use oxygen icons in installer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 2nd September, 16:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 01 Sep '10

01 Sep '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held on Thursday 2nd September, at 16:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * replacing more openSUSE:Factory KDE3 packages with KDE4 versions (kmymoney,...) * old action items * status report * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=2&month=9&year=201… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net (feel to add yourself to the list of people who should be notified before the meeting, at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_meetings_ping_list). You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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