May 2010

[opensuse-kde] Call for testing: on-demand package installation
by Lubos Lunak 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

Hello, in OBS in home:llunak:ksuseinstall there are packages branched from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop that have one experimental feature added: When a needed package is not installed, the user is offered its installation. Currently there is support for debuginfo packages, applications that can open a specific file type if none is installed and multimedia codecs for Amarok. The plan is that this feature makes it into 11.3, so please test and provide feedback. The things I'm especially … [View More]interested in: - the UI and the workflow could quite possibly be improved (currently it uses Yast modules to save me a lot of work, and it's also done this way because of a certain catch mentioned below). So, imagine you are Joe User the Clueless who's just installed 11.3 and think about how this would or would not work and how it could be improved. The catch here is that this is not only a technical problem but also a legal :(. This can quite easily help with the problem of installing packages that cannot be shipped as a part of openSUSE because of various stupid patent stuff etc. The problem is that we should not even encourage too much usage of such packages. Don't ask what that means exactly, because I don't know, and probably not even lawyers know for sure, but something like "MP3 support is missing, press Yes to install it from Packman" is simply very unlikely to make it past our lawyers. I think the guideline could be that the user has to know it's an extra and that it's not part of openSUSE, and thus has to make at least some effort, not just confirm a dialog. There is a reason why adding community repositories in Yast fetches a list of those from a 3rd party site and knows nothing else than the URL of that list. Yes, this all sucks. - there could be more places where this could help a lot, either by saving the default installation size by not installing packages that most users wouldn't use, or by handling something where such on-demand installation would be helpful to many users. From 11.2 the Nepomuk/Strigi config module comes to mind - we had it disabled by default and some parts were not installed, so enabling it required not only flipping the checkbox but also installing something. I am not going to patch every single place in KDE where an optional package could be possibly missing, but it shouldn't be difficult to handle some mores places where it makes a difference, if you know such cases. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-kde] K3b 2.0 RC3 released
by Markus 17 Jun '10

17 Jun '10

Hi there. I'd like to inform you that K3b received a new bugfix release: http://sourceforge.net/projects/k3b/files/ Changelog: * In some cases medium doesn't get accepted for multisession burning (230742) * Data files in VCD ripping view are not listed * Show "Modify Permissions" button in System Problem Dialog only when it makes sense (230706) * Crash after "Cancel" was clicked while adding audio files to AudioCD project (231348) * Error window at the start when a place on the left … [View More]

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[opensuse-kde] Is there something wrong with KDE:KDE4:Unstable?
by Dave Plater 08 Jun '10

08 Jun '10

Hi, my package kde4 community kid3 is failing in all kde4 unstable builds with a doc related (kdelibs4-doc) problem, is there something happening in unstable or is this something that needs to be fixed by me before it spreads to stable builds. Thanks Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE meeting 20100527
by Karsten König 30 May '10

30 May '10

Here are the minutes for the KDE Team meeting on 2010/05/27 See http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings/ for futher details. == Old action items == * lunak,wstephenson document how-to-maintain Extra ** not done yet == ksuseinstall == * http://help.opensuse.org/ksuseinstall * will be used in the ksuseinstall dialog to guide people * AI: wstephenson, javier_ write the ksuseinstall text == The most annoying 11.3 bugs and M7 status == * release nearing, so bug triage is on, help is very welcome * … [View More]P2 anything that needs to be fixed before release * P1 anything really broken * AI: javier_ announce and run a bug triage * AI: llunak pointers for javier_ * AI: wstephenson make a contact to KDE bugsquad for javier_ * AI: cb400f run tests for kupdateapplet, ping opensuse-maintainance == Making the meetings more interesting/well attended == * cb400f / rabauke suggest better visibility and interesting topics * another timeslot is evaluated, will be done on -kde list * wstephenson suggests topic focused meetings * suitable tasks to hook new contributors are evaluated * group hugs are shared because the meeting is packed with people! * make opensuse more visible as good upstream partner * wstephenson asks to please use proper blog tags not to swamp planetkde with opensuse specific posts * AI: llunak add additional meeting reminder mail more days in advance * AI: llunak update meeting howto to highlight people on IRC about meeting starting (or something similar) * AI: everybody blog more about opensuse kde work, also about other (quieter) peoples work, add blog to the planets * AI: rabauke start blogging regularly about happenings in the project * AI: everybody push kde news to saigkill for the openSUSE news * AI: wstephenson see if rpmlint warnings can be hung on a lime tree for easy plucking * AI: wstephenson mail list about meeting times == bugs that wstephenson might not get to that need to be done == * currently akonadi starts with kde and produces failure messages * https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591483 * wstephenson targets on demand start of akonadi * device notifier not working always, plasma team looking into it * https://bugzilla.novell.com/597162 * AI: wstephenson summarise big bugs to list == Repository reorganisation update == * still no consensus on details * llunak made an overview and voting page on the wiki * biggest issue is the placement and intention of UNSTABLE * http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/RepositoryRenaming * AI: everybody comment and vote on repositories == Q&A, Misc == * chitchat about a splitted kontact and rpms 'suggests' tag * general praise about the community, and certain people who are the quiet heroes of the opensuse-kde team == Action items == * AI: wstephenson, javier_ write the ksuseinstall text * AI: javier_ announce and run a bug triage * AI: llunak pointers for javier_ * AI: wstephenson make a contact to KDE bugsquad for javier_ * AI: cb400f run tests for kupdateapplet, ping opensuse-maintainance * AI: llunak add additional meeting reminder mail more days in advance * AI: llunak update meeting howto to highlight people on IRC about meeting starting (or something similar) * AI: everybody blog more about opensuse kde work, also about other (quieter) peoples work * AI: rabauke start blogging regularly about happenings in the project * AI: everybody push kde news to saigkill for the openSUSE news * AI: wstephenson see if rpmlint warnings can be hung on a lime tree for easy plucking * AI: wstephenson mail list about meeting times * AI: wstephenson summarise big bugs to list * AI: everybody comment and vote on repositories -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-kde] Where can I find kde api?
by Dave Plater 30 May '10

30 May '10

Hi, I've no problem finding the kde3 api documentation online or locally but http://api.kde.org/ refuses connections and I can't find a package containing the kde4 api docs anywhere even in the help center and kdevelop3s google search turns up links but they're all to api.kde.org. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE repo structure proposal
by Lubos Lunak 28 May '10

28 May '10

Hello, I have the AI from the last meeting to sum up the new structure and naming here before we do a poll about the choices, so here it goes. According to the discussion the repositories should be reorganized this way, with the following names and purpose: (note: KKFD = KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop, o:F = openSUSE:Factory) - backports repository - name KDE:Backports, it contains latest versions of KDE applications that are usable of any supported openSUSE release and do not require newer … [View More]KDE platform. In other words, all applications from the factory development repo (current KKFD) but built against the distributions instead of against KKFD. This repository is offered in repositories list in YaST. Technically, this repo will only contain links to openSUSE:Factory for the packages. Maintainers of the repository shouldn't need to do more than enable/disable build and 'osc linkrev' to update to newer versions (the links will point to specific revisions of o:F packages to avoid beta packages appearing in KDE:Backports when they get submitted to o:F). - unstable repository - name KDE:UNSTABLE, currently KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Desktop. Basically, SVN upstream snapshots, that's it. - development repository - current KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop, suggested name KDE:Distribution:Factory or others (see below). This repository contains all packages maintained by the KDE team that are in o:F. Note that KDE team does not mean just Will and me. - stable repository - current KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop, suggested name KDE:Distribution:STABLE or others (see below). Contains all packages maintained by the KDE team that are in the latest stable openSUSE release. In other words, when there is a new distribution release, contents of the above (~KKFD) repo get copied here and the repo is used for preparing online updates and similar. - additional packages repository - suggested name KDE:Extra or others (see below), for packages which are not in o:F (like current KDE:KDE4:Community but hopefully without the random state of things). This repository is offered in repositories list in YaST. Only stable releases of packages are allowed here, or a reasonably stable beta release if an official stable release is not available. Repository-wide maintaners are only people who maintain the repository as a whole. People willing to contribute packages will do submit requests that will be reviewed by maintainers, when trusted enough they get maintainership only for their package(s). Current KDE:KDE4:Community will be eventually deleted after packages are moved to this new repository (not necessarily all of them). - playground repository - name KDE:Playground, contains any KDE packages without any guarantee (alpha versions, whatever). Not as strongly reviewed and maintained as the other repositories (I don't know what the best way to handle this in practice would be, depends also on manpower, but I think there still should be only few repo-wide maintainers who would give package maintainership to others). That's all as far as the reorganization goes. This will be done before 11.3 is released, we will try to keep links for backwards compatibility for some (unknown time). Please review and comment/fix/etc. Also please raise your hand again if you'd be willing to do a repository maintainer for any of these. There were several people for KDE:Backports (where it should be pretty simple) and KDE:Extra stepping up during the meeting, so I'd like just to have a written overview here. Naming: Since we are already going to do repository renaming to e.g. remove 'Community' from the name of the repository with additional packages to avoid suggesting that it is the only repository where community can contribute, we decided to do it all at once and also do other renaming to fix other problems with repository naming. For example, in KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop the 'KDE4' is superfluous and 'Desktop' is just a part of the contents, and we could use a better word than 'Factory' to suggest that it is packages that will be in the distribution. Therefore, here is a list of names that were proposed during the meeting. For some the consensus seemed clear, so there is just one, but feel free to suggest other options there too. - backports: - KDE:Backports - unstable: - KDE:UNSTABLE - KDE:Unstable - development: - KDE:Distribution:Factory - KDE:Distro:Factory - KDE:Base:Factory - (KDE:SC:Factory is not listed as the contents are not just KDE Software Compilation) - ? - stable: - KDE:Distribution:STABLE - replace 'Distribution' with all choices above for it, and STABLE can again get different capitalization - ? - additional: - KDE:Extra - KDE:Contrib (this is not very liked, as it has similar implications like 'Community') - playground: - KDE:Playground After feedback (or if there is none :) ), I will create polls for the possibilities and best names will be chosen. After that, we will create the new structure, setup maintainers for the repos and start moving contents. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 27th May, 16:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 27 May '10

27 May '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 27th May, at 16:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * http://help.opensuse.org/ksuseinstall * most annoying 11.3 bugs * making the meetings more interesting/well attended * default Akonadi startup/usage * repository reorganization * old action items * status report * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/… [View More]

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[opensuse-kde] akonadi mysql error
by upscope 27 May '10

27 May '10

Can anyone tell me what this means and do I need nbcluster enabled? Cannot find way to enable it. 100525 7:31:39 [Note] Plugin 'ndbcluster' is disabled. 100525 7:31:39 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 17400584 100525 7:31:39 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: ready for connections. Version: '5.1.36-log' socket: '/home/finemanruss/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket' port: 0 SUSE MySQL RPM Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] [K:K:U:D] Patch for kde4-l10n package
by Johannes Obermayr 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi, Burkhard Lück fixed the compile/install failure: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1130001 Johannes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] trinity: KDE 3.5 fork
by phanisvara das 25 May '10

25 May '10

i thought some here might find it interesting that some folks decided to continue maintaining KDE 3.5. the source can be found at <http://websvn.kde.org/branches/>, ubuntu packages here: <https://launchpad.net/~kde3- maintainers/+archive/trinity-svn-nightly/+packages> i don't know if packages for other distros are planned; their roadmap isn't very complete yet: "This page will (eventually) detail the direction the Trinity project is heading in. For now, we are busy keeping … [View More]

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