August 2008 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] KDE4 usability issues
by Alexey Eremenko 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

Hi All ! (esp. Dirk & others) - whom I spoke to yesterday about KDE3/KDE4. Now, I'm running latest openSUSE 11.0 (64-bit) and latest KDE 4.1. What problems are still left in KDE4.x compared to KDE3.x ? 1. Using the taskbar - area near start button (kicker in KDE3 terms), there are icons to quick-start applications. I cannot add anything here, not by dragging from Start Menu (like Windows XP), and cannot right-click to add new application from start menu (like KDE3). This is very serious usability trouble. Only options available: (right-clicking on Konqueror 4 icon near start menu) "add widgets" "add panel" must also have: "add application" - either by manually typing command, or by selecting from Start Menu. 1.a. Speaking of applets/widgets: "quicklaunch" for KDE4 needs to be integrated as another widget into KDE, instead of being third-party add-on. 2. Task-bar: It has single level. In KDE3 or Windows XP I can have multi-level "thick" taskbar, not so in KDE4. In KDE4 taskbar can be "thick", but it will still be one-level. This is not configurable via "Panel Settings". 3. "Show Desktop" / "Minimize all windows": (aka "show dashboard" in KDE4 terms) - again - in KDE3 and Windows XP the "show desktop" can be used to minimize all windows, while I still see and can use the taskbar for windows reorganization, while in KDE4 clicking on show desktop I can only see desktop and start new application from desktop, but I cannot access taskbar and/or start menu. I use this very frequently, when I want to start new task on my desktop, without fully ending previous task. 4. (subjective-opinion) Theming - Windows decorations - both "Ozone" and "Oxygen" are ugly compared to KDE3/SUSE windows decorations. BTW: Very good windows decorations were in the far past - SUSE Linux 9.1 (KDE3). Maybe we can replicate those, as on option (or default) into KDE4/SUSE 11.1 ? 5. Screensavers are lacking (besides "Black screen") 6. All tray icons have no transparent background. I mean - even native tray icons from KDE3 and KDE4. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Sensors no longer display in ksysguard after update from SUSE 10.1 to 11.0
by Paul C. Leopardi 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

Hi all, I just upgraded from SUSE 10.1 to openSUSE 11.0. I've noticed that sensors is now at version 3.0.2-4.1, using lm_sensors 3.0.2. How do I display information from this new version of sensors, using ksysguard, or otherwise? The following message suggests that a patch has been added to KDE 3.5.9 http://lists-archives.org/kde-devel/15569-ksysguard-to-support-lmsensor-3-x… I'm currently using ksysguard 1.2.0 with KDE 3.5.10 and cannot see the sensors. Maybe the patch is broken? The problem apparently still occurs in Gentoo: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211308 and Arch: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8776 This lm-sensors web page http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Download has a pacth to ksysgiard 3.5.8. I don't know if it works or if it has been incorporated into KDE 3.5.10. I upgraded from 10.1 to 11.0 by using the update method rather than by installing openSUSE on a freash partition. Should this have made any difference? I don't want to reinstall just to check if this problem is fixed. Is there any way I can check ksysguard and sensors using a live-CD? Best, Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] missing kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1
by Daniele 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Hi all, since two days this is the output of zypper dup: 6 Problems: Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1 needed by kde4- plasmoid-quickaccess-0.7.1-1.24.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1 needed by kde4- plasmoid-system_status-0.5-1.27.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1 needed by kde4- plasmoid-weather-0.4-1.41.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1 needed by plasmoid- lancelot-1.0.svn853114-5.6.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1 needed by kde4- plasmoid-commandwatch-0.1-1.40.i586 Problem: nothing provides kdebase4-runtime >= 4.1.1 needed by kde4- plasmoid-previewer-0.1-1.41.i586 Opensuse-11 with the follow repos: kde4-Desktop: KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0/ kde4-ExtraApps: KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/openSUSE_11.0/ kde4_community: KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.0_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ Any hints? Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] FYI "The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1" Thread
by Stephan Binner 30 Aug '08

30 Aug '08

Hello, FYI, there is now a "The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1" thread starting on the opensuse-factory mailing list how to deal with KDE 3.5.10 in openSUSE 11.1 Bye, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] yast
by Constantinos Maltezos 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

On Thursday 28 August 2008 12:48:04 am Jiri Srain wrote: > Dne Thursday 28 of August 2008 05:31:26 Rajko M. napsal(a): > > On Wednesday 27 August 2008 06:59:18 pm Constantinos Maltezos wrote: > > > > > Again, has anyone noticed any better handling of situations like this > > > in any newer version of yast? > > > > > > I'm just curious. I'm still using 10.3 and don't know if it'd be worth > > > it to install 11.0 with 11.1 coming out, but then, I don't know if it's > > > worth waiting for 11.1. > > > > Many people upgrade to opensuse 11.0 just to get new package management > > and there is many positive references on the web about that. > > The software management performance has been improved very significantly, > if it bothers you, upgrading to 11.0 (or 11.1 Alpha/Beta snapshots) is a > solution for you. Why didn't I see this written about extensively? Bah, it was probably there and I missed it. Thank you both. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE3 Session Manager crash
by Marc Chamberlin 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

I thought I would start with a posting here to see what feedback I might get. I searched KDE bugs but did not find this particular issue and if the consensus here in this news group is that I should report this as a bug I will... I am running SuSE 10.3 and have been working for quite a while now trying to track down a problem that starts to occurs near the end of boot up and then occurring intermittently thereafter. The problem I am experiencing is freezes where the GUI becomes unresponsive for several minutes at a time, or it becomes extremely sluggish. This freeze always occurs near the end of booting up and each of the final steps will take several minutes to report that it as completed. As X becomes active and the KDE desktop comes up this process will take upwards of 15 minutes to complete. After a while the KDE desktop will become intermittently quite responsive for a bit, then will become quite unresponsive again for a bit... I have tried removing all services except those required by X11 without success, and am now going through log files to see what complaints are showing up there and trying to clean them up. I have looked at TOP and VMSTAT to see if I have a process taking up all the CPU time or am having swapping troubles. Again so far without success. I then decided to take a look at KDE itself to see what I might try and there I learned about a bunch of services that KDE is running and so I tried to stop them. This had no effect on this problem either. Next I found there is something called a Session Manager and when I tried to open it, it crashes! So I now suspect I should get that working to see if this may be the cause of my GUI unresponsiveness. The KDE Crash reporter gave me a walkback which I have included below. Any one got any ideas on what this means? Thanks in advance for any help offered and please remember I am NOT a Linux guru by any means... So if you have a suggestion for me to try, please don't use any advance terms or expect me to have a lot of detailed knowledge about Linux and its toolset... Marc Chamberlin Attached is the stack walkback from the crash when I tried to open the Session Manger found in Personal Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager Something that caught my eye in this walkback is that there are references to the ATI fglrx driver. I am using the ATI Radeon x1600 video card with the fglrx driver, could something be amiss with this driver? [?1034h(no debugging symbols found) Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1". 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[opensuse-kde] yast
by Constantinos Maltezos 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

I've been updating a lot of packages with yast. I have no new problems, but I'm looking for some information about upcoming solutions to old, continuing ones. After launching any part of yast that has anything to do with package management, I have to wait around five minutes before I can do something (which is sometimes to change one small thing). I once saw it suggested that yast be changed to use rdiff or something to only collect the changes in the repository rather than downloading the entire list. Has anyone using 11.1 alpha or Factory noticed any change? Also, I set over a hundred packages to update from one repository and while I was doing it, they must have updated the packages, because now those hundred- plus packages are no longer found on that server. Okay, it happens. But over one hundred times, I had to press the space bar to get rid of one error box, then hit alt+S to skip the package. Each time. Again, has anyone noticed any better handling of situations like this in any newer version of yast? I'm just curious. I'm still using 10.3 and don't know if it'd be worth it to install 11.0 with 11.1 coming out, but then, I don't know if it's worth waiting for 11.1. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] need a crispy linucs for da missus, don't want to install windoze in her laptop
by kanenas＠hawaii.rr.com 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

I have about 2 weeks before my bill gates white trooper / son comes back home. Before he comes back I want to have a killer suse laptop for the wife, da missus and I just decided that she does not need a desktop, a laptop with a choice between land line and wifi would be perfectly acceptable! the problem is that the laptop is an aged hp job, the model is an hp pavilion, ze1000 series, with an 80gb hard drive, 512mb ram and an amd xp-1500+ cpu. presently, the laptop is a dual boot setup, 32 bit suse 10.3 is the default, windoze xp is the other choice in the grub menu. all that will be wiped out for the *one* os to be freshly installed. Currently, the standard 10.3 suse feels *a lot more sluggish* on the laptop than the xp and no, it is not beagle, the dreaded dog was never allowed in the system at install! so, i am asking for help in installing a fast suse system. should I go to 11.0? should i try something like knoppyx? if i still do suse, what can i keep out of the installation in order to gain speed? should i abandon kde and try somethinglike xfce? expected useage would be email, web browsing, book writing(oo), vlc / mplayer / dvd playing multimedia, perhaps some pdf file creation. any ideas will be welcome! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] What's the best bugzilla for KDE4.1 in openSUSE
by Michal Vyskocil 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

Hi, I'm using the KDE from KDE:KDE4:Factory:{Desktop,Extra-Apps}. I'm not sure, what's the best bugzilla for that build of KDE? The bugs.kde.org, or Novell's bugzilla? I'm asking because there's some patches and fixes in openSUSE, which may not be in upstream version ... Best regards Michal Vyskocil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE4 - Call for test of bug 414912
by Rajko M. 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

Please test problem reported in: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=414912 and give comment. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] ksysguard does not work after update from OBS KDE:QT44 repository
by Günter Dannoritzer 16 Aug '08

16 Aug '08

Hi, I am using openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 and updated QT and KDE with the KDE:QT44 repository from the openSUSE build service. My KDE version is KDE 3.5.7 "release 72.9". After a reboot the ksysguard applet stopped displaying the CPU load and memory usage. I had the same behavior on a different Computer running openSUSE 10.3 i586 after including that repository, doing the update, and reboot. When starting the application KDE System Guard I am getting the error message: "Connection to localhost has been lost". It pops up as a new message box in intervals, so I have to hurry to close them all in order to be able to shut down the application again. In /var/log/messages I am seeing this warning related to KDE System Guard: Jul 22 11:19:39 StCloud ksysguard[22404]: *** WARNING *** The programme 'ksysguard' uses the Apple Bonjour compatiblity layer of Avahi. Jul 22 11:19:39 StCloud ksysguard[22404]: *** WARNING *** Please fix your application to use the native API of Avahi! Jul 22 11:19:39 StCloud ksysguard[22404]: *** WARNING *** For more information see <http://0pointer.de/avahi-compat?s=libdns_sd&e=ksysguard> I followed the provided link and it says to set the variable $AVAHI_COMPAT_NOWARN to 1 in order to get rid of the warning. My question is now whether getting rid of the warning really solves the problem? Thanks for your help. Regards, Guenter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] kde4: kdm and ssh-agent
by Günter Dannoritzer 14 Aug '08

14 Aug '08

Hi, I installed openSUSE 11.0 with KDE4 on my x86_64 Computer and was surprised not to find a running ssh-agent. With my previous 10.3 installation I see a ssh-agent as a child process to kdm: /opt/kde3/bin/kdm \_ /usr/bin/Xorg -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth \_ -:0 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/kde LESSKEY=/etc/lesske \_ /usr/bin/ssh-agent Now on the new installation I have a gpg-agent sitting there instead of the ssh-agent. First I thought that it just got changed, but a friend of mine has the same installation and he has a ssh-agent there. What is the decision ssh-agent vs. gpg-agent based on? I would prefer the ssh-agent, as I can have it handle my keys and I don't have to install keychain to do so. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Guenter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.1 Kontact Missing Shared Library
by Ralph DeWitt 14 Aug '08

14 Aug '08

HI All: I installed Kde 4.1 using the 1 click method a short while ago. When in Kontact I can not use the new Notebooks and Time Tracker items the error is Can not find shared Library. Can someone help get this working? Thanks -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed OpenSUSE 11.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.25.11-0.1-default Current Linux uptime: 4:21, days user hours minutes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Checking: Konqueror
by Rajko 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Page rendering http://apcmag.com/ Brands list is not contained in assigned space, but runs out of it. Firefox presents that within the box limits, with scroll bar. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Checking: Crypto Backends
by Rajko 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

KMail >Settings > Configure KMail>Security>Crypto Backends Switch to Crypto Backends, tab doesn't fill with content until rescan is pressed. After that it will show content. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] I can not access internetbank with Konqueror/KDE 4.1
by Jose Thadeu Cavalcante 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi, I can not access my internetbank (using java for authentication) with Konqueror/KDE4.1. No problem with Konqueror/KDE 3.x, nor Firefox. In the past (KDE3.x) I already had problems that seemed to be originated by konqueror-plugins. Some suggestion? Thanks, Thadeu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Konqueror 4.1 giving error pages on almost any URL I direct it to
by Constantinos Maltezos 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

Has anyone had the trouble mentioned in the subject? I found a bug report at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167273 and added to it, but I'm wondering if someone might know a quick fix. I've looked at everything I could think of to look at - I checked network settings in systemsettings (I'm connected directly, nothing else seems off), I grep'ed "network" and "timeout" in ~/.kde4/share/config, I looked at konquerorrc in that directory (has nothing but version information), I checked my cache settings (keep in sync) and whatever else I could think of that I don't remember. Konqueror 3.5.9 works just fine, as does Firefox (which I made my default browser, but I hated doing that). I even tried renaming my .kde4 directory and starting from scratch - it didn't work and I suggest avoiding doing that if you can because when I renamed it back, I still lost a lot of settings, which left me scratching my head. It appears that this is uncommon, as I haven't found much mention of it. As stated in my comments on the bug report, I've had this problem since 4.0 came out. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] Konqueror 4.1 giving error pages on almost any URL I direct it to
by Constantinos Maltezos 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

On Tuesday 05 August 2008 7:49:09 pm Rajko M. wrote: > On Tuesday 05 August 2008 04:01:32 pm Constantinos Maltezos wrote: > ... > > > As stated in my comments on the bug report, I've had this problem since > > 4.0 came out. > > KDE4 4.1 > openSUSE ?? No... I was talking about Konqueror. Right now it's at 4.1, but I've had the problem since 4.0, when KDE 4 was first released. Since I said I didn't have this problem with Konqueror 3.5.9, it'd be pretty difficult to have had this problem since SuSE 4.0. And I only started with 6.2. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Community Meeting, Wed Aug 6th, 16:00 UTC
by Dirk Mueller 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

Hi, The next openSUSE KDE Community Meeting is coming up tomorrow, Wednesday Aug 6th at 16:00 UTC. Please note that this is two hours earlier than initially planned. The current list of scheduled topics is: * old action items * Status (kdepim update? KDE 4.0.x updates?) * KDE 3.x on 11.1 planning * Bug squashing day * misc Further items are welcome; please add them to http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=8&year=200… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting happens in #opensuse-kde on irc.freenode.net. You're welcome to join and participate! Greetings, Dirk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Yet another whiny kde4 e-mail
by Martin Schlander 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

I've been using KDE 4.1 (factory:desktop) on my "production" machine since Tuesday. After a rough few days I'm now starting to have it set up pretty nicely and figuring out how to work around problems, so I can now use it without troubleshooting or banging my head against the desk in frustration most of the time. I'm too lazy to file bugreports for all the problems at this point, but I thought I'd mention some of the problems I've been having here quick, some are small and some are big, maybe it can be of some use to someone. If nothing else it might give an impression of why so many people hate KDE4. * "Zombie" processes: I'm having a lot of problems with processes that keep running in the background when I quit the apps. Especially Konq - I had to periodically go to ksysguard and kill several konq processes - and dozens of kio_http processes, until I finally made Opera the default browser. I also have similar problems with KMail and Kopete. If I quit Kate with Alt+F4 an ever increasing number of kate processes will keep running - but if I quit with Ctrl+Q the processes will die as they should. * Rsibreak-issues It wouldn't autostart for me - not by session management and not by adding it as a desktop-file in the Autostart systemsettings module - manually creating a desktop-file in ~/.kde4/Autostart worked though. The rsibreak config dialog (right click systray icon -> configure rsibreak) is completely messed up. .. well.. I guess it's still beta. * Launchfeedback I tried to disable taskbar launchfeedback in systemsettings -> desktop -> launchfeedback. No matter how many times I uncheck the checkbox, it's checked again when I go back. * Krunner + kcontrol strangeness I disable a lot of the runners hoping it would make krunner a little less slow and laggy when typing. I found that for some reason the application runner doesn't think kcontrol exists, I need to enable the bash runner to be able to start kcontrol from krunner. Other kde3 apps don't have this problem. * Plasmoid get hot new stuff thingy doesn't work I selected a few plasmoids from online, they seemed to be downloaded and it says they're installed, but I can't figure out how to add them to the desktop. * Multimedia keys don't work I have a Logitech Office Comfort keyboard, the multiemedia keys worked out of the box in 11.0/KDE3.5, they don't work with KDE4.1 * Camera problems I have a Canon Ixus 70. In KDE3 I would get a popup asking me what to do when it's connected - in KDE4 I got nothing - nothing in recently plugged devices nor in Dolphin sidebar. The systemsettings digital camera module seems to identify the camera correctly, but I get error messages no matter what I click in that module. Still haven't figured out how to access my camera, other than using kde3 konq. * KSnapshot doesn't suggest default filename/filetype KDE3 KSnapshot would suggest something like "snapshot.png", in KDE4 you have to do everything manually. Very minor issue, but it's symptomatic of how everything is just crude and unpolished in KDE4.1. * Konq profile applet doesn't like Danish characters (æ, ø, å). At least I think so. When I launch konq profiles with Danish characters in the name I get an empty session, while I can load these profiles fine from within konq. Changing their names makes them launchable from the applet. * Kopete issues At one point I got a Jabber account called EMPTY@. I have no idea where that came from and no matter how many times I deleted it in the gui it would keep reappearing, I had to remove it manually from the config file to get rid of it. (this might be related to kopete proces keeping running in the background when I thought I had quit the app though). The history plugin doesn't work well with metacontacts. For example, if I open a jabber chat with some guy, I won't see the history of msn chat I had with the guy the day before, even though the different accounts are grouped together as one "metacontact". * There's no kde4 super user file manager (at least not according to kickoff) .. well.. kde3 konq is probably the best filemanager on the system anyway ;-) * I couldn't extract tar.bz2 with Ark Maybe I'm too stupid, or maybe it just doesn't work. This is just a small selection of the problems I've had, I've left out all the problems that seemed to be caused by re-using kde3 settings and the issues that are so weird, that it's too difficult to describe or that you wouldn't believe me if I told you. I think I'll stick with KDE4.x from now on, but only cuz I'm a fanboy. My general impression is that too many things either don't work or are just painful to use. I'll have to keep recommending KDE3 to non-fanboyz for some time I'm afraid. But I do think there's hope that 4.1 can become enjoyable in time for 11.1 - but there sure is still a lot of work to be done. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Automatically starting applications
by Bob Williams 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

Is there a way of starting certain applications automatically after logging in to the KDE desktop? Bob -- Bob Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.0, Kernel 2.6.25.11-0.1-default, KDE 3.5.9 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Amarok
by Wilfried Lahme 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

Hello, System is: OpenSuse 11.0 KDE 3.5.9 Amarok ist sleeping! I'm trying to tell Amarok to get a collection of 24.121 Songs and Classics in mp3 and ogg since now about two weeks! It's always the same: Amarok ist working between a night and two days an than threre is no collection! Amarok had gone without telling anything, displaying a message or error, it's just away! There is no chance to start it again! I Remember on your way to KDE 4."WhatEverItWillBe" a MS-DOS 4.0! I loved It REALLY! Does the Community of KDE think, that this is a way to get new users? Or may it be, that there are users going, and you don't think about this? Tell me about this and - PLEASE - keep the quality, that I had known about a time of about years! It was a 2.??? of KDE that I met first! Living with a new platform and knowing that bugs are normal! But after years I thought, that quality management ist a part of this software! May be that I#m wrong in this point! Over years I got people from an MS to Suse with the argument "KDE"! This time has gone for me! Show me and others a new way! I have one suggestion, because I think, that your way to the aim is OK, but not the way how you realize it! Give a chance to engaged users to test KDE 4.x beside 3.x (may be up to a 3.6 or 3.7)! But in a way where 4.x doesn't touch the 3.x in any way! Best regards Wilfried ps Sorry I#m a little bit out of use in writing English! Only speaking works better! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Stopping Knetworkmanager..
by Daniele 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

HI all, I switched my network settings from k/networkmanager to the classic ifup method. All fine but knetworkmanager still starts at every login! NM is not running, closing/removing knetworkmanager from systray doesn't help.. So, what I have to do for stopping knetworkmanager ? Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Need help getting 4.1 extra-apps installed
by Ralph DeWitt 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

HI: I feel frustrated. I installed Kde 4.1 using a one click thing. But try as I may I do not seem to have all the knowledge to install the KDE 4.1 Extra-Apps. I am new to OpenSuse. Thanks for your help. -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed OpenSUSE 11.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.25.11-0.1-default Current Linux uptime: 5:04, days user hours minutes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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