Hello,
I do not have at hand the letter that is received by people asking to be
a member but with no or nearly no contribution, and so refused.
I think this letter is much too rude, and that it's a waste of good will
not to make some sort of follow up. There are not so many :-)
I can try to do so.
I propose to have a letter of this sort (very incomplete, please read
and comment)
https://en.opensuse.org/User:Jdd/letter_to_people_asking_to_be_a_member_2015
do we have a forum/mailing list that we could ask such people to
subscribe? "opensuse@" seems to me much to intimidating :-)
thanks
jdd
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Oh no, not another lengthy thread.... I am afraid it is going to be,
but hopefully we can stick to the topic and only focus on the name.
A brief summary:
Stephan as the release manager has decided that he will concentrate on
building a distribution around the project known as openSUSE:42. In
[1] he also tried to start the discussion about the naming of the new
distro. However, this did get sidetracked rather quickly, thus, please
focus on naming only.
- - Not all questions for the new release have been answered, we do not
need to revisit this. Some answers will only emerge as the baby starts
to crawl and then walk....
- - Just because Stephan will take on the release manager
responsibilities of a distro around the SLE sources does not preclude
another person or team to build/release... a distro based on Factory
snapshots.
As the distribution is a representation of the project as a whole,
i.e. all contributors, I think it is fair that people get an
opportunity to weigh in with their concerns. This view may not be
shared by everyone, so please bare with the rest of us as your mailbox
once again fills up ;) However, to those participating in the
discussion please focus on the name not on side issues.
It has been advocated in other threads that a vote on the name should
be considered as the final solution. There are reasonable arguments
for and against such a direction. Thus, lets not focus on the voting
part at this point either, lets just focus on the name and see where
the discussion goes. If this should or should not be voted on can be a
separate discussion once we collectively understand the concerns
people have with respect to the name.
In a "thread renaming" post we have had the following suggestion:
* openSUSE Oak
""""
So how about Oak? It's a solid tree, it fits with the green theme and it
will give us:
* openSUSE Tumbleweed
* openSUSE Oak
""""
"openSLES" has also been suggested a few times but lets just say that
we will probably run afoul with a number of legal restrictions. Plus
it is not really SLES, it is based on SLES sources and not a verbatim
build of the SLES sources.
My suggestion would be to focus on the name while considering that we
should not create a name that would produce a potential conflict as
described in [2], also consider the reply [3]
So please lets focus on the name the child might have. State your case
for the name you propose, include in the proposal a numbering scheme,
if you think we should stick with numbers.
Staring at 1 for a numbering scheme has rather obvious disadvantages,
all other numbers are probably equally arbitrary, but you can
certainly state the case why the number being proposed is favorable.
I propose the above as the guidelines for the naming discussion. I
will add my personal opinion about the name as a follow up post. Lets
see if I can manage to stay within my own proposed guidelines ;)
I apologize to those that are subscribed to both the -factory and the
- -project list. However I know that there are a number of people that
are not following -project but follow -factory, thus the cross post.
As I mentioned, I believe that the distribution represents all of us
and thus everyone should have their chance to weigh in on the name
given to the baby that represents the community.
Let the fun begin.
Robert
[1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-06/msg00203.html
[2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-06/msg00278.html
[3] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-06/msg00280.html
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hello,
did somebody receive the tsp reimbursement for the OSC-15?
I can wait, but the official delay is long overdue
thanks
jdd
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OK, guys and girls,
just as an alternative for those of you who can't warm up to LEAP
or other names provided so far,
here are two more (and my last) suggestions from my idea-sheet
and some associations that may go with them.
I'm sure, you will find the drawbacks yourself:
openSUSE Emerald
- dark-green
- solid
- durable (long term idea)
- transparent
- precious, a gem
- "our finest"
- something you want to have
- something you want to keep
openSUSE Base
- solid
- good starting point
- something to build on
- rather neutral
- down to earth
- factual
- short
- for work/business
Have a good week!
Rainer
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Hi all,
Please help us get the news about the next openSUSE regular release -
http://bit.ly/1HjnkkB
I encourage you to makes some creative images or videos related to 42,
the answer to everything, and post them to your social media pages or blogs.
Ideally, it would be cool if we can make change all the images on
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=42&ia=images to images with openSUSE 42. Let's
dominate the image space and then we can conquer the next phase when we
agree on a name that shows how elite/superior the next release will be.
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"In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right
thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you
can do is nothing."
- Theodore Roosevelt
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On 23 June 2015 at 18:10, Saurabh Sood <saurabhsood91(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Not yet. It does take some time, so awaiting further updates.
>
>snip<
>> On 23 June 2015 at 16:40, jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org> wrote:
>snip<
>>> did somebody receive the tsp reimbursement for the OSC-15?
Today I got e-mail from TSP stating = This reimbursement was paid on 24th June
^_^
Now waiting for confirmation 4m my b@nk.
>snip<
>>> thanks
>>> jdd
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since january 2014 (18 months).
(the last one ... )
I have no numbers on the factory mailing list ... but I'm quite sure
than (once more) : the technical decisions are more motivating than the
project or the marketing. Logical ! Evident !
Sharing and communicating on a mailing list ... is a non-sense when we
do nothing else then giving different points of vue.
Slow & slow, most ppl go back to their priorities and shut up.
I cannot change that ...and I honnestly don't know who can or could.
As said ... when we just go on talking and in fact, nothing change,
everybody will logically just contribuate to the distribution, and
forget the community (project). Yes, it was the fun ...
Is it still fun ? Was it the fun ? I don't know, I hope yes.
Last year, I discovered what "being welcomed" mean in an openSource
community,
and for sure it was great !
And for sure, openSUSE project have many forces and quality, but not
communication & welcoming. That's it.
Perhaps it's not very important ?
openSUSE distribution is great ... that's for sure.
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Not yet. It does take some time, so awaiting further updates.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1984(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 23 June 2015 at 16:40, jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org> wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>
>
> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> did somebody receive the tsp reimbursement for the OSC-15?
>>
> Same here.
> I thought me being from non EU country, TSP reimbursement processing is
> taking time :-)
> The last update I received was on 18th May as follows:-
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> reimbursement #xx is in processed (by administrative, payment is ongoing)
> state since Mon, 18 May 2015 0x:xx:xx +0000
>
> The reimbursement must be confirmed after completing the payment.
>
> At May 18, 2015 08:27, APossamai did process it with the following notes:
>
> This reimbursement was forwarded to Accounts Payable on 18th May, 2015. Best
> regards, Anna (xyz(a)suse.com)
>
> To access the related information, just follow the link below:
> http://connect.opensuse.org/travel-support/requests/xx/reimbursement
>
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>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> @jdd: You also received similar update?
> @Saurabh: You received the TSP reimbursement for oSC15?
>
>>
>> I can wait, but the official delay is long overdue
>
>
> Normally 1 month is taken to process the reimbursement. [Assuming working
> calender days i.e. 5 days a week]
> We may need to wait for few more days. :-)
> Marking TSP team in cc just for FYI purpose. ^_^
>
> Regards,
> Amey. [India]
>>
>>
>> thanks
>> jdd
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During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE
LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and
"SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically
said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion
of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream
of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard,
for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was
releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
_and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully
communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the
phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other
sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included)
implementation.
1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html
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Hi,
Does SLES use systemd, and if so since which release?
Cheers
MH
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