Hi everybody,
as you all know, we have the openSUSE Members, a group of contributors through
their sustained and substantial contributors that are eligible to participate
in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks. We have now about 600
of them, but as you can see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of
them voted.
This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in
elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is
somewhere in middle. This is something we need to know when we take project
wide decisions in order to correctly assess the communities interest in the
topic.
This is a recurring topic that has been discussed at the openSUSE Board Face to
Face meeting last year, oSC 15, and on this list several times over the last
few years. Taking these into consideration, we (in the board) think it would
be a good idea to implement something to help with ensuring our Membership list
accurately reflects our current Membership. I have put together a tool which
attempts to detect an openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS,
bugzilla, maybe more. This tool will remember when we last saw openSUSE Member
on any of those channels and if they doesn't show for 6 months, we will send
them an e-mail asking whether they still wants to be a member. A response to
that email will automatically count as activity and preserve the Members
status. If there is no response within 30 days of the notification, the Member
will be 'retired' and be considered a 'Member emeritus'. If someone is retired
incorrectly, or a 'Member emeritus' returns to the Project and wants a
restoration of their voting privilege, they will be unretired without question
by the Membership Committee.
There are few implementation details to be worked out, so we don't expect this
to go live overnight but consider this a "statement of intent" and an
explanation of how we expect things to work before we start testing the
process.
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To answer some of the obvious questions:
Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway after measuring and evaluating
their activity?
A: No, that would be too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that
we cannot measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator
that those people are no longer interested, but they might be just working
on project aspects we cannot measure. openSUSE Members are members until
THEY no longer want to be. We believe this system preserves that principle.
Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of
not being interested?
A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (6 months) and if we monitor even
mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere. We intend to word the
'ping' email in a way that is not judgemental, but just makes it clear that
we have failed to automatically find evidence of contribution so want to make
sure they are still interested in remaining a Member.
Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member?
A: Not really. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever without
question. Now it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big
change, just a little difference.
Q: What if mail with warning gets lost?
A: If you lose your membership by accident by losing an e-mail, you can still
contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated
immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix
your e-mail in connect.opensuse.org in that case ;-)
Q: Will retired members retain their email & IRC cloak perks?
A: No, the intention is that retired members will no longer be eligible for
@opensuse.org email addresses and Freenode IRC cloaks.
[1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/49480/opensuse-board-el…
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Hi All,
Just wanted to share my thoughts after getting time to watch many of the
presentations uploaded.
First of all, thank you for having the videos uploaded so quickly, it
was great to be able to quickly watch some of the presentations within a
day after they were done.
Second, thank you for the good quality audio and video of the
presentations and discussions. Many conferences do not have this and it
makes it difficult to follow the presentations.
It was also great to hear many of the discussions people had about the
project in the project meeting. I had some other questions wrt some of
the topics brought up but I will make separate threads for those.
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Uzair Shamim
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certbot is able to deal with openSUSE (apparently not SLES) during
installation, but I can't help noticing that there is no mention of
openSUSE (nor SLES) on the front page. There are others missing too,
but shouldn't we be listed there along with the rest?
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http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland.
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As a quick reminder: We will have a Key Signing Party
(https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC16/program/proposal/826) at
the openSUSE Conference.
Note that the deadline for sending your key is tomorrow 2016-06-21 15:00
CEST!
All attendees send their public keys to Johannes Segitz (jsegitz(a)suse.com):
# gpg --armor --export --output $KEY_ID.gpg $KEY_ID
Send $KEY_ID.gpg via email to jsegitz(a)suse.com
Thanks
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HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
Maxfeldstraße 5
90409 Nürnberg
Germany
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I thought this might be relevant to the discussion about aging
official membership in the openSUSE project:
https://www.Linux.com/blog/how-xen-project-streamlined-code-review-analyzin…
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At the moment, it seems that a large portion of the projects listed on
the openSUSE derivatives page (https://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives)
have been abandoned or out of date, which couldn't possibly give a
good impression of the distro to prospective users. What should be
done about these pages?
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Greeting fellow Geekos!
As you know lots of new stuff are coming in the future of the project!
It has occcured to me during conversations with fellow linux users
that though openSUSE is among the leading distros , help towards
technical (or other) problems still needs improvement. Quite a few
people are asking question on the facebook group, and most of them are
answered thoroughly, but we are not archived or reachable from
non-facebook users and the forum traffic is low. So I wonder is it
possible to have an official stack exchange page where users can ask
for help? What are the difficulties we might face?
Imho it would be more efficient and new users will appreciate it more.
Care to share your thoughts on what can be done? I'm willing to help
if we reach an agreement
inb4: I'm not saying to close the forum
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Hi all,
We will have our last organizing meeting for this year's openSUSE
Conference on the opensuse-project channel on freenode IRC today at 1700
UTC.
The topics we will discuss in today's meetings are:
Keynote Changes
Proposals Status
Daily emails
Equipment update
Volunteers
Make sure to register for the social events under “My Registration” on
events.opensuse.org if you want to attend any of the city or cellar
tours in Nuremberg.
Presentation template -
https://progress.opensuse.org/attachments/download/1348/openSUSE%202015%20T…
v/r
Doug