openSUSE Project March 2020

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[opensuse-project] opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list

by ITwrx

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

3 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board

by Pierre Böckmann

Dear openSUSE community members, this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board. We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re- election of the openSUSE board. Reasoning: In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly harsh words on both sides. Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has never happened. Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member. Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board, 2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks before the election and the election weeks itself. Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's decision to step down, too. As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement published by Marina. As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules itself. Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead. Kind regards Pierre Böckmann P.S. Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth details. Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community. Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community elections outcome, rules and principles. Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

4 months

[opensuse-project] Upcoming election to backfill a board seat

by Gerald Pfeifer

Dear openSUSE members, just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an election for that vacancy. The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election officials. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out! Gerald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

4 months

[opensuse-project] "Abstain" an option for future votes

by Gerald Pfeifer

On the board meeting two hours ago we discussed adding an "abstain" option to future votes. We unanimously agreed. That is, future votings shall include "abstain" as a choice. Thank you to all who provided feedback! Gerald PS: We understand board elections allow a flexible number of choices, including choosing no candidate, so we do not see this as applicable there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

7 months, 2 weeks

[opensuse-project] Is it right that distrowatch.com classifies Leap as "Fixed, Rolling" release model?

by Felix Miata

I can't recall seeing anywhere else Leap being classified as "rolling". https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensuse BTW, not so long ago, openSUSE was hot on the heels of Fedora in the bottom half of the top 10. A whole bunch of other distros seem to be getting their word out a lot better than is openSUSE no having dropped to #18 behind Neon and Solus among other relative youngsters. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Board meeting minutes 2020-03-17

by Vinzenz Vietzke

Hi, here are the minutes of the 2020-03-17 board meeting. If you prefer a more formatted way, you can also read them here: https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2020-03-17 --->8--- == Participants (in alphabetical order) == Axel Gerald Marina Simon Vinz Guests: Doug Stasiek Gerald opened the session and welcomed all board members and guests. == Events == Currently there's only to watch the whole COVID-19 situation until July and then decide about openSUSE.Asia Summit and oSLO20. Doug keeps the board in the loop. == No-Confidence vote on the current board == As the elections officials have not responded yet the board assumes they are still working on the topic. * AI Gerald: Reach out to election officials to get an update. Call closed at 2020-03-17 2350CET ---8<--- Cheers, vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Election Committee += Gerry Makaro (aka Fraser_Bell)

by Gerald Pfeifer

I am happy to announce that Gerry Makaro (also known as Fraser_Bell around here) is re-joining the Election Committee again after a "sabbatical" since November. This came as a request from and recommendation of the Election Committee which we are happy to follow. Thanks for your contributions, Gerry! Gerald (hat: chair) -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Board meeting minutes 2020/03/03

by Simon Lees

Present: All * Firstly apologies for the delayed minutes the board has been busier then usual and have also had alot of other things going on. * Welcome Vinz * Lets put more emphasis on getting minutes out consistently (Yes we still need to work on this). * The board agreed to a minor change of https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules to make the language more inclusive. * Board member being unable to perform his duties -> Board member being unable to perform their duties * Change made by Simon * Board briefly discussed Documentation status as another community member is interested in being involved. * Replacing vacant position. Will hold an election for the vacant position now in the election officials hands. AI: Gerald to send email to the list. * Foundation Update AI: All board review Simon's proposal. * Test Jitsi next meeting. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B

8 months, 1 week

Fwd: [opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board

by Bernd Ritter

Hi fellow chameleons and penguins, I do NOT support a whole re-election of the openSUSE board. These event as they did can happen and should not happen very often. Until then we should use the elected pop ups (like Vinvz who has been close in votes). There is work to do and these politics just block and suspend a lot of efforts. This is not the main intend of openSUSE! Cheers, Bernd Am Fr., 13. März 2020 um 11:10 Uhr schrieb Pierre Böckmann <pb(a)crowbyte.org>: > > Dear openSUSE community members, > > this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board. > > We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re- > election of the openSUSE board. > > Reasoning: > > In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a > candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those > concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly > harsh words on both sides. > > Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks > Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been > ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never > been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or > indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should > have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has > never happened. > > Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to > legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member. > > Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board, > 2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force > Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding > principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence > or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks > before the election and the election weeks itself. > > Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board > statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles > and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's > decision to step down, too. > > As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are > subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been > around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but > even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and > discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement > published by Marina. > > As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents > which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the > openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the > complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the > community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules > itself. > > Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see > whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean > new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead. > > Kind regards > Pierre Böckmann > > P.S. > Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth > details. > Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful > towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor > of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community. > Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few > weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community > elections outcome, rules and principles. > Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable > to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took > the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this > proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org > -- What are clouds made of? Linux servers, mostly. -- What are clouds made of? Linux servers, mostly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 3 weeks

[opensuse-project] Goodbye Board

by Christian Boltz

Dear openSUSE community, in the last weeks, some things happened in the board that are completely against my principles and beliefs. I don't want to go into details, and will get straight to the heart: I'm resigning from the board. I know this is a drastic step, and I can assure you that I didn't take this decision easily. In the best interest of the openSUSE project and everybody involved, please don't speculate about the details or ask for them. Of course, I won't let the community suffer from what happened, and will continue everything else I do in and for openSUSE (for example my heroes tasks and my work on AppArmor). Even more important: I have many friends in the community, and this is something that will never change! I'm looking forward to meet you again. There is one thing I'll open up for discussion: One of my heroes tasks is to maintain the elections.opensuse.org server. I don't have any evil plans ;-) but I could fully understand if someone thinks that I better should keep my fingers off it and hand it over to another hero. If someone thinks so, please speak up (doesn't need to be public, you can even ask a board member to relay it to me anonymously). I guarantee that I won't be mad at whoever asks for this. However, the hero who has to take over maintenance of elections.o.o might be ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: All the best, Vinz! Supporting your appointment was my last official act on the board. -- Warning: Sleeping Sigmonster! Please do not disturb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 3 weeks

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