We had a couple of discussions in the past about how to improve the openSUSE
trademark guidelines (see e.g.
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines or
https://features.opensuse.org/311039). One of the main issues with the current
guidelines is that it's very strict about derivatives, and doesn't easily
allow people using openSUSE as a base for their own systems, to keep a visible
association with openSUSE.
So attached is a proposal how to adapt the trademark guidelines and provide a
better solution to this issue. It also contains a few smaller clarifications.
It's based on the input I was able to gather from the Wiki, openFATE, mailing
lists and some personal feedback. It's a draft, so feedback is welcome.
The central change is to allow people to create variants of openSUSE and use a
"Based on openSUSE" branding under more liberal conditions than now. We would
provide a specific branding for that, which keeps the relation to openSUSE,
but is done in a way to not be confused with the branding of the official
openSUSE distribution. Technically this would be a set of branding packages,
which can be used instead of the default branding of the official
distribution.
Please let me know, if there is additional feedback on the proposed changes,
so we can incorporate that, and then move forward with getting the needed
approvals to officially adopt the improved guidelines. In parallel to that we
can look into doing the proposed branding packages.
Attached is the proposed text for the revised guidelines, and the diff to the
current official version.
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Cornelius Schumacher <cschum(a)suse.de>
I was asked by a new formed Linux Magazine to look for some great
tools of the openSUSE project so that I can write some articles about
them. I thought about OBS and WebYaST. I let someone else from the
Greek community to make the OBS article due to his experience with
that tool and I start looking for more information about it today and
I found the webYaST user guide that was published today!!! I read it
and it is a really great guide.
Now I am thinking in making a Greek team to translate it so my
question is when I will finish the translation where can I publish it?
And if its possible to get informed about the changes that might
become so that I can upgrade the translated guide.
That's it for now
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As I wrote about [1] a couple of days ago, the Packman team has been busy
migrating to a new openSUSE Build Service instance as well as, while we were at
it, changing the repository layout [1].
We've been putting quite some steam behind the effort and we finally have
reached a point where everything is working great (for us as packagers) and
where the most used packages have been added and re-built on our new openSUSE
Build Service instance, as well as having been published in our new
repositories [2], including on all our mirrors [3].
On Wednesday (2011-03-02), in CET evening, we will delete the old repositories.
We will create symbolic links to make the old URLs point to the new
repositories (e.g. 11.3 to openSUSE_11.3), in order to make the old URLs still
work perfectly fine.
But it will also mean that there are a lot of packages that were in the old
repositories that are not in the new ones, as we didn't migrate everything yet,
and didn't migrate everything on purpose. Indeed, it is also a good opportunity
for us to get rid of old cruft which we added many years ago and isn't used by
anyone any more, or even anyone in the first place.
At the same time, I will change the list of repositories that show up in YaST's
"community repositories" module in order to reflect the new layout, with the
option of picking only some of our repositories, and not just the "big one"
(for details, please refer to [1]). Of course, once performed, I will
duly announce it.
So if you do run into a package you were used to get from us and which doesn't
show up in the Packman repository any more, please let us know by sending us an
email to our mailing-list at packman(a)links2linux.de (no need to register first,
just send an email to that address, in English or German).
Sorry for the inconvenience that move might create, but it will definitely help
us because we will hopefully have a little less packages to maintain (because
no one is using them), and also make the service a bit swifter for you to use,
as there will be less RPM-MD metadata to download on each refresh.
[1]http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2011/02/packman-service-interruption-and.html
[2]http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.4
[3]http://packman.links2linux.org/MIRRORS.html
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The Packman website and repositories are going to be broken and
in the works for several days (possibly up to a week) starting
tonight at 20:00 CET, during which the following services will
not be available, or only sporadically:
* the Packman website itself: http://packman.links2linux.org
* the Packman repositories, except "Essentials" (see "new
repository layout" below)
The reason is that we are performing a major migration of our
services to
* the latest version of the openSUSE Build Service (we were
still using an old version)
* a new layout of our repositories, to enable a more fine-
grained control over what parts of Packman should be used
(see below)
In order to try to keep a minimum service going during that
time, you may use and point people to our new repositories, that
already contain the "Essentials" part, which are almost complete
with the bare minimum everyone needs (mplayer, vlc, libraries,
...).
The URLs for the new repositories are as follows:
* http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.3/
* http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.2/
* http://packman.inode.at/suse/Factory/
* http://packman.inode.at/suse/SLE_11/
There are no .repo files there yet, so adding one of these is
done as follows:
zypper ar -n packman http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.3/ packman
(obviously adapt the URL to your openSUSE version)
You may also use one of our mirror sites, as they already have
our new repositories:
ftp://packman.links2linux.de/pub/packman/MIRRORS
New repository layout
---------------------
As has been announced (including here), we have had a discussion
back in December about whether and how we should reorganize the
layout of our repositories. Up to now, and for many years, it
has always been "one big repository", which had pros and cons:
* good: easy to use, just add onr repository and be done with it
* good: easy for us to manage
* bad: you get everything and the kitchen sink, including
packages that are duplications of stuff from other repositories,
specifically from build.opensuse.org (which didn't exist when
Packman was created), and potential conflicts with those
* bad: large metadata files to synchronise (although zypper has
become pretty fast at that)
We came up with a solution to this, as more and more people
requested having split repositories, in order to control what
they want to use from Packman:
* we will have four repositories instead of one: Essentials,
Multimedia, Games and Extras
* Essentials will be the bare minimum to get your multimedia
experience on openSUSE going (libraries, MPlayer, vlc, ffmpeg,
...)
* Multimedia will contain additional applications that are not
available for openSUSE or only in a crippled build, such as
avidemux, etc...
* Games are, well, games, although we will try to move most of
what may be hosted on build.opensuse.org to the games project
there
* Extras is all the rest
In order to provide the best of both worlds or, rather, still
provide you with the old option of adding everything, we are
using a little trick and are running "createrepo" on the
top-level directory, which results in having repository metadata
that contains all the packages from all the above mentioned
repositories without having to duplicate the RPM files on our
server.
Hence, to make it short and less technical, you can still also
use the "old way" too.
As an example of what needs to be added to zypper, once the
migration is complete and .repo files are available too:
* add the Essentials repository:
zypper ar -r \
http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.3/Essentials/Essentials.repo
* add the "everything" repository:
zypper ar -r \
http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.3/packman.repo
I will announce our progress on my blog at
http://dev-loki.blogspot.com -- which is also aggregated on
http://planet.opensuse.org -- and will obviously post another
announcement here once our migration is complete.
In advance, sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your
understanding. We are convinced that our move will not only
provide us with a better infrastructure, but also improve your
experience with Packman and openSUSE.
cheers
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Hi All
Mentor Organization Registration starts tomorrow, so if you think you
need to add more details to your idea, do so. If you have a wonderful
idea then add it to the idea wiki page. Also add yourself as a mentor.
If its a fate feature, add a link to it
Heres the link
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_2011_Ideas
Thanks a lot
Regards
Manu
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Hi all,
We have copied some ideas we found interesting on openFATE to the
openSUSE GSOC 2011 ideas page and we are looking for people to mentor
for those. Take a look at
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_2011_Ideas and if you are able to
mentor something add your name for it.
Remember, if you'd like some fresh blood in your project or have some
task to be done for which you don't have time, GSOC is a great
opportunity!
Our deadline is next Monday already so hurry!
Cheers,
Kostas
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Am Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011, 16:49:59 schrieben Sie:
> On Wednesday 23 February 2011 09:14:03 Karsten König wrote:
> > The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held on Wednesday,
> > 3rd March at 15:00 UTC.
>
> According to my calendar March 3 is a Thursday -- care to
> ammend the above?
>
> sc
Oh right, yes the meeting is on 2nd of march, Wednesday!
Sorry for the confusion =(
Karsten
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Hey,
I think we shouldn't have ideas about custom distros listed for GSoC:
the ideas themselves are cool, but they're not appropriate for GSoC
projects.
A GSoC project implies development of code and most of the custom
distros ideas are about integrating different components together, in
the right way; but not about code.
I'm afraid that listing those ideas when we apply might lower our
chances of being accepted...
Opinions?
Cheers,
Vincent
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In an effort to consolidate our meeting times and encourage more
community participation in discussions relating to the growth and future
of our beloved openSUSE Project, the openSUSE Board has begun a new era
of merging both the openSUSE Project and openSUSE Board meetings.
We will now, henceforth, conduct both meetings simultaneously at 19:00
UTC
We encourage everyone to come out and join our meetings because without
you, there is no Project. :-) Your feedback is important and your
ideas and involvement is the backbone of our community.
Our next merged meeting will be on March 9 and will continue every two
weeks as usual.
We look forward to your participation!
The openSUSE Board
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