Hi all,
Since the current NNTP gateway by MicoFocus is being shutdown from Wed 19th of
June, there will temporarily be none. Meanwhile some of our community members
are working on replacing it, announcements about this will follow a.s.a.p.
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Hi,
I am myself afraid of this email, because this is about the basis of the
community, distributions, plans for foundation etc... Any change in
regards
to all things outlined here will be controversial and will have huge
influence
on the future of openSUSE as a whole. Take this very seriously, but
also don't
take it too seriously because it doesn't change the way community
operates,
but instead how it ends up being represented.
As mentioned in my talk week ago, I would like to change the openSUSE
logo
to break it off of SUSE branding, however as Richard rightfully pointed
out,
the suggestion should also mention changing the name of community and
distributions, to remove the `SUSE` part of `openSUSE`, on top of a few
other
issues that are unrelated to foundation talks. [1,2]
We do need to tackle this now, considering we are going through vital
parts
of the talks of the Foundation, and both trademarks are planned to be
transferred at some point, but it might be best to start off the
foundation
with the name and logo that isn't necessarily tied to SUSE brand for
easier
legal proceedings between SUSE and the project, depending on the
community
outlook on the ideas.
openSUSE logo issues:
* older version of SUSE logo, which is similar enough to be
confusing, also
will require agreement between future openSUSE Foundation and SUSE to
use the
logo
* colour is too bright and light to stand out well on light
backgrounds [3]
* button variant looks the same as SUSE logo buttons, with the only
exception
being colour (and SUSE tends to use similar green for buttons they
haven't
updated in a long time)
For current proposals, and to propose more visit:
https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/issues/93
openSUSE name issues:
* contains `SUSE`, which will require agreement between future
openSUSE
Foundation and SUSE to use the name (we will need this anyway, because
we will
support older releases, but at least there would be some exit strategy
when
everything goes south built into the name of the foundation)
* we are endlessly complaining about wrong capitalization (and will
for the
rest of time), even SUSE has it easier with "only" SuSE, SuSe and Suse
[4]
* FSF complains about `open`, although that works with openness of the
collaboration, more than `free` or `libre` would (not to mention that
we do
have non-free repos) [5]
There has obviously been a lot of suggestions here, from various
contributors,
stuff like `Viridian Foundation` works quite well for the purposes of
the
naming, because it references SUSE, while not being directly tied to
SUSE name
(although it might be too generic and hard to type).
More important than the name itself however is to decide if we want to
change
the logo and/or the name at all, or we want to leave everything as is.
If we do
decide for a change there we will be able to choose the name and the
logo
through a vote, I or some other designer will just have to design and
fix up
logos proposed by the community for the vote (like it was previously
done with
the YaST mascot/logo, which looked crude before the redesign, but was a
great
community idea). [6]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgkMlCZiP4
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZmc4CXzFQ
[3] https://contrast-ratio.com/#%2373ba25-on-white
[4] https://i.imgur.com/ySr4JAA.png
[5] https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#openSUSE
[6]
https://github.com/yast/yast-theme/commit/1cdb9e9c2545ba1604f8bdf88864e9ae9…
LCP [Stasiek]
https://lcp.world
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Hello,
here are the minutes of the 2019-09-03 board meeting.
You can also read them on
https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2019-09-03
Absent: Gerald (in 4am timezone until early October)
== Name voting ==
Simon will write an introduction letter listing pros and cons. Options
will be "keep openSUSE" vs. "change the name", but we won't propose
alternative names. If the result is "change", we'll have a second vote
for the new name.
== Board-internal communication channels ==
The board is evaluating open source options to replace hangouts and the
whatsapp group.
== Meetings ==
Gerald arranged for meetings of the board with people inside SUSE to
discuss budget and IT infrastructure topics.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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Dear members,
Following discussions about the “openSUSE Project logo & name change”
that started in June on the openSUSE Project mailing list [1], the
Election Committee received a request from the Board to conduct a vote
whereby openSUSE members can indicate whether they are for or against
the project name change.
The voting will start on Oct 10 and end on Oct 31, which will provide
three weeks for members to vote. The result will be announced on Nov 1.
The voting exercise is limited to openSUSE members only.
The voting procedure will be similar to the board elections. Members
will receive a voting link on their membership email alias, i.e
@opensuse.org. Members should verify that their openSUSE email alias is
working and redirecting to the correct email address. If you experience
troubles with your email alias, please email admin(a)opensuse.org to
resolve the issue.
Members who wish to change the target address of their email alias can
do so by sending the change request to admin(a)opensuse.org.
Those who wish to become an openSUSE member they can apply for
membership by following the instructions specified on the openSUSE Wiki
page [2].
The Election Committee can be reached through
election-officials(a)opensuse.org.
[1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-06/
[2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members
Regards,
Ish Sookun
(from the Election Committee)
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> After six years on the openSUSE Board and five as its Chairperson, I have decided to step down as Chair of the openSUSE Board effective today, August 19.
Richard, thank you so much for everything you've done for the openSUSE project(s), the community, the people (incl. sense of humour and really stretched jokes like well the... brexit one :)), and for SUSE too.
You'll be deeply missed in your chair role, even though still involved and contributing from a variety of angles.
> Gerald has been a regular source of advice & support during my tenure as Chairperson. In particular, I will always remember my first visit to FOSDEM as openSUSE Chair.
Let's see how Gerald will dress up now, for his first live appearance as chair :)
Really happy and excited that Gerald has accepted the challenge and together with the board, the community and SUSE folks, looking forward to keeping the good collaboration between openSUSE and SUSE and also to bringing improvements as much as we can.
Best,
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Hi all,
@openSUSEneeds your input about shop.opensuse.org. We are looking at
redoing the store and would like to know your thoughts. Take this short
survey to help us determine a directions -
https://forms.gle/sjrS9VkNvmJnrSDZ8
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Doug
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Dear fellow Geekos,
I would like to bring to your attention that the annual opensource event in Bulgaria (OpenFest 2019) is around the corner. More information here: http://www.openfest.org/2019/en/
There is one more week left until the CfP is closed. I am sure that you have something interesting to share. You can apply here: https://cfp.openfest.org/?locale=en
Even if you do not want to apply or your application is not accepted, you are free to join us on the 2nd and 3rd of November. We will have a lot of fun! Guaranteed! 😊
* Please note that I am not related in any other way to the event, besides organizing the openSUSE info booth there.
Regards,
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Hi all,
We will have a Project name change vote and that process will be carried
out using Helios, the same platform that we use to run openSUSE elections.
Only openSUSE members are eligible to cast a vote and voting
instructions are sent to the @opensuse.org member alias.
Therefore, please make sure that your membership alias is forwarding
emails to the correct email address. If any change is required to your
email address you may contact heroes(a)opensuse.org to help you out.
If you have any query regarding your membership status you may reach out
to the membership officials through membership-officials(a)opensuse.org.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
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Hi,
I just learned that the recommended procedure for prospective new
members is to write a profile on <https://connect.opensuse.org/>
It is described here:
<https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members#Detailed_steps_to_follow>
You know that I am one of the two volunteers that watch for spam on the
connect platform. I have been told that the platform is insecure, and in
fact people remove their profile. I don't know if this claims are true
or not, but I ask here for your consideration.
For example, the other day a new user appeared, "rose25". Within a day,
she made "friends" with possibly everybody on the platform, surely using
a script, there is no other way to do thousands of friends. A few
corresponded.
Subsequently I banned her.
Quickly another user appeared, "rose2525", but so far no activity I can
can undoubtedly classify as "spam". However, some real users have made
friends with her (like Malcolm Lewis, or Stefan Seyfried, but not listed
later as such). I am suspicious and undecided.
The point: I highly suspect that this "rose25" got the emails and
personal data on the profiles of everybody.
Thus I ask if would it not be better to modify the procedure for
prospective new members to provide their "resume" in some other secure
manner.
I am a bit worried. I do not want to be blamed for breach of privacy (EU
regulations etc) as I am 50% the active admin of that platform, which I
barely understand. I do not take responsibility in such an event.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Absent with notification: Marina Present: Gerald Axel Simon Christian Gertjan
Board welcomed Gerald Pfeifer as their new Chair Person, and introduced
themselves. Other members informed Gerald about the things that are on the
Board's table currently.
Gerald shared first observations and thoughts, and infrastructure and budgets
as two areas where he'd like to bring SUSE and the Board in closer contact.
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