Hello,
My name is Jan Fredrik Stoveland, and I am a masters student at the
University of Oslo writing a thesis on firm-sponsored open source
communities. openSUSE is the main case for the study. I have been granted
permission to send you this email by Andreas Jaeger and Martin Lasarch,
and I hope you do not mind receiving it. I would like to ask all of the
members of the this mailinglist to participate in a brief, anonymous
electronic survey targeted at active contributors in the openSUSE
community. The research is funded by the University, and is independent of
any commercial interests. The link to the survey is here:
https://nettskjema.uio.no/answer.html?fid=38823&lang=en
I have selected these mailinglists as the main community indicator:
project, factory, buildservice, wiki and translation. It is of great
importance to get valid answers from as many of you as possible. The
questions in the survey concern your current engagement in the openSUSE
community, your reasons for participating in the community and your
affiliation with Novell. I expect the survey will take you 10 minutes to
complete, unless you find any questions difficult to answer.
What do you get in return for doing this? The results from the survey will
be posted to the list within a month, and the thesis with other
interesting findings about your community will be published around May
next year. Hopefully this will be of interest to you. But first of all I
hope you will contribute for the sake of research itself. Not too much
academic research has been done on communities that are facilitated by
partially-proprietary companies like Novell.
Furthermore, I would like to do an in depth interview on the phone with a
few of you to get more detailed answers. I will randomly select about 6
people to talk to. In addition I would appreciate to talk to any people
that have additional opinions. So if you have something more to say after
completing the survey, please send me an email!
Thank you very much for your help!
Jan Fredrik Stoveland
Student of Sociology and Informatics
University of Oslo, Norway
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Hi,
* Events
- LWE .nl on 31.10-01.11
http://sites.vnuexhibitions.com/sites/bezoekers_linux-world_nl/en/index.asp
(over 200 subscribed already to the openSUSE talk!)
* Communication
- no response to my meeting mail, so it will stay as it is
* Wiki
- next: zh wiki change
- working on mail notification
- figured out the picture problem (sync problem with the 2 servers)
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Martin Lasarsch, Core Services
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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Seems Fedora has a nifty web app for helping to manage/merge/have stats
about localization (over po files and version control systems), "Transifex".
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=94625https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/transifex/
Sounds quite interesting, including to seek collaboration with Fedora if
it's really adding value for us and our apps.
Anyone who'd like to have a shot at it ?
Do we have a lot of .po files in VCS repos ? (svn/cvs)
cheers
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Bluetooth:
- 1st themed meeting, today with Stefan Seyfried to talk about Bluetooth
- New bluetooth infrastructure is dbus-based, with only one daemon
- Users can configure (almost) everything
- GUI apps must be ported to the new interface (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jproseve/)
Bug plan:
- More categorization done, bug plan mostly done
AI: add gnome-accessibility tag to the bugs page (rodrigo)
AI: finish bug plan wiki page (federico)
Team goals:
- http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Goals
- Full agreement it seems
Tasks review:
- Will test forge.novell.com for shared code repository, although creation of
projects need approval
- G:S mostly fixed now
Q&A:
- Next meeting will be offset for Asia and Australia
Packaging policy:
- Policy mostly complete
AI: Post a sample spec file for programs/libraries to the wiki (mw)
GNOME:Community policy:
- We now link to the packaging policy, making it complete
AI: Review current GNOME:Community packages to match the policy (Riggwelter)
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Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com>
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Hi
The German computer magazin ct had a quite long special about Linux on tv.
They show openSUSE 10.3 a little bit, the video is now online available:
http://www.heise.de/ct/tv/artikel/97431
Yes, it's German.
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Martin Lasarsch, Core Services
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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The subject says all. Any news about it?
Best regards.
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I wonder if there are any plans to make it possible to upgrade openSUSE
to the next release (e.g. from 10.3 to 11) through 'openSUSE updater' or
an other application. Much like the way Debian's apt and Gentoo's emerge
works.
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Aniruddha
Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette
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Hi
The Linux Foundation started a new survey on Desktop/Client usage. Form the
introduction: "The information from this survey will assist the Linux
Foundation Desktop Linux workgroup to focus on areas of development that are
important to you. The results of this survey may also be valuable to your
business. Once you complete the survey, you will be able to view the current
aggregated public results of the survey. "
No registration needed, you can see directly the results and it's even
available in several languages.
But: "The 2007 Linux Desktop/Client Survey asks you to answer a few questions
based on your company's desktop/client plans and not necessarily your
personal desktop usage."
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/2007ClientSurvey
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Martin Lasarsch, Core Services
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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Bug plan status:
- Using the whiteboard now for marking bugs: gnome-function-does-not-work,
gnome-wrong-out-of-the-box, gnome-showstopper, gnome-crash,
gnome-usability
AI: add good definitions of all those categories to the wiki (Rodrigo)
AI: give Federico and Rodrigo bug samples for categorization (Munkii)
Ancient distro bug squash:
- Dedicate days for bug squashing <= 10.1 bugs, 1st on 26th Oct
- People should use virtualization for testing old distros:
http://en.opensuse.org/Virtualbox
- Do bug squashing days regularly (for 10.3 and beyond mainly)
AI: talk to KDE team about packaging policy/itch scratching (mw)
Next week's theme:
- http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Themes
- Theming makes more sense for bug/hacking days than for meetings, will
experiment with meetings though
Task review:
- Tasks look good except for Bugs:GNOME bug reporting info
AI: find owner for Bugs:GNOME update (JP)
- Still no final version for the live CD
- GNOME:STABLE still a bit broken
- Will review Wishlist_GNOME on some meetings
User Q&A:
- Too many clicks needed on the openSUSE page to get to GNOME
AI: Make the GNOME page more visible on the opensuse wiki
- File bugs for patches, better way to keep track of progress
Packaging policy:
- http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Packaging_policy
AI: add information about osc createspec to the above page (Rodrigo)
AI: add patch extension requirement (maw)
AI: reference the OSC plugins page (maw)
AI: add info about running quilt (Rodrigo)
- Stanislav had a tool to analyze pkg-config checks for automatically update
BuildRequires
GNOME:Community policy status:
- http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Community_Inclusion_Policy
- Packaging guidelines in progress
AI: link to the new policy page
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Hi
ok, i have still the bug open for a long time, here is my point of view for
discussion. The wiki makes it possible to clutter a lot of pages over the
whole wiki, or try to make some kind of order.
- is this point of view valid for most of you?
- do we need the separation?
- what is missing?
* SDB
An SDB article should describe a solution to a problem in a special format.
- separate namespace: SDB:
- focus should be on beginners, easiest solution first
- no doctoral thesis, short and to the point
- for more information link to howto and/or FAQ
- definition how to write is in the sdb-howto (which is in the SDB, yeah, i
know ...)
Examples what not to put into the SDB:
- article about how to install xen
- article describes how to use smart instead of zypper/YaST
Examples which are not SDB articles for me:
Configuring_Evolution_in_openSuSE_10.2
Samba_file_sharing_in_openSUSE_-_breaking_through_the_window
Installing_GRAMPS_in_openSUSE_10.2
(i just picked 3 from the top, great articles, but not SDB)
* Howto
A howto has not the restrictions like an SDB article.
- should have a separate namespace: HOWTO:
- the purpose is not to solve a problem, but this is not mandatory(?)
- it could be detailed like a doctoral thesis, but don't have to
- not mandatory focused on beginners
- imho, and this might be only my opinion, it should still be written as easy
as possible.
- we already have a launchpage for Howtos
* FAQ
- should have a separate namespace: FAQ:
- short and to the point
- the general FAQ layout should be known, so no more explanation here
- we should have a FAQ launchpage with all FAQs on it
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Martin Lasarsch, Core Services
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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