openSUSE Project October 2019

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[opensuse-project] NNTP gateway to forums.o@o.o

by Knurpht-openSUSE

Hi all, Since the current NNTP gateway by MicoFocus is being shutdown from Wed 19th of June, there will temporarily be none. Meanwhile some of our community members are working on replacing it, announcements about this will follow a.s.a.p. -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year

[opensuse-project] Project name and logo discussion

by Stasiek Michalski

Hi, I am myself afraid of this email, because this is about the basis of the community, distributions, plans for foundation etc... Any change in regards to all things outlined here will be controversial and will have huge influence on the future of openSUSE as a whole. Take this very seriously, but also don't take it too seriously because it doesn't change the way community operates, but instead how it ends up being represented. As mentioned in my talk week ago, I would like to change the openSUSE logo to break it off of SUSE branding, however as Richard rightfully pointed out, the suggestion should also mention changing the name of community and distributions, to remove the `SUSE` part of `openSUSE`, on top of a few other issues that are unrelated to foundation talks. [1,2] We do need to tackle this now, considering we are going through vital parts of the talks of the Foundation, and both trademarks are planned to be transferred at some point, but it might be best to start off the foundation with the name and logo that isn't necessarily tied to SUSE brand for easier legal proceedings between SUSE and the project, depending on the community outlook on the ideas. openSUSE logo issues: * older version of SUSE logo, which is similar enough to be confusing, also will require agreement between future openSUSE Foundation and SUSE to use the logo * colour is too bright and light to stand out well on light backgrounds [3] * button variant looks the same as SUSE logo buttons, with the only exception being colour (and SUSE tends to use similar green for buttons they haven't updated in a long time) For current proposals, and to propose more visit: https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/issues/93 openSUSE name issues: * contains `SUSE`, which will require agreement between future openSUSE Foundation and SUSE to use the name (we will need this anyway, because we will support older releases, but at least there would be some exit strategy when everything goes south built into the name of the foundation) * we are endlessly complaining about wrong capitalization (and will for the rest of time), even SUSE has it easier with "only" SuSE, SuSe and Suse [4] * FSF complains about `open`, although that works with openness of the collaboration, more than `free` or `libre` would (not to mention that we do have non-free repos) [5] There has obviously been a lot of suggestions here, from various contributors, stuff like `Viridian Foundation` works quite well for the purposes of the naming, because it references SUSE, while not being directly tied to SUSE name (although it might be too generic and hard to type). More important than the name itself however is to decide if we want to change the logo and/or the name at all, or we want to leave everything as is. If we do decide for a change there we will be able to choose the name and the logo through a vote, I or some other designer will just have to design and fix up logos proposed by the community for the vote (like it was previously done with the YaST mascot/logo, which looked crude before the redesign, but was a great community idea). [6] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgkMlCZiP4 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZmc4CXzFQ [3] https://contrast-ratio.com/#%2373ba25-on-white [4] https://i.imgur.com/ySr4JAA.png [5] https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#openSUSE [6] https://github.com/yast/yast-theme/commit/1cdb9e9c2545ba1604f8bdf88864e9ae9… LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] openSUSE Project Name Change Vote

by Ish Sookun

Dear openSUSE Members, There have been long discussions on the openSUSE Project mailing list about the pros and cons of a the project name change. The discussions contain a lot of arguments in favor or against such a change. The community appears divided over this matter and under such circumstances it is not easy to draw consensus by just looking at the mailing list discussions. The board asked for a project name change vote to obtain a clearer picture of the community's decision. The vote will open on 10 October 2019 and end on 31 October 2019. Members will receive their vote link and credential in an email sent to their openSUSE email alias. Three weeks ago an email [1] was sent to the project mailing list to inform members of this vote and thus giving everyone enough time to check whether their openSUSE email alias is redirecting emails properly. A second reminder [2] was sent about a week ago. If you haven't had time to update your member email alias, you can still do so by sending an email to admin(a)opensuse.org. Please reach out to the Election Officials through election-officials(a)opensuse.org if you are having any trouble receiving your vote link. The vote page asks whether we change the project name and the answer option is either "yes" or "no". The result of the vote will be announced on 1 November 2019. Regards, Ish Sookun (from the Election Committee) [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-09/msg00005.html [2] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-09/msg00062.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] Project name change vote extended

by Ish Sookun

Dear openSUSE members, The Board and the Election Committee have put together a wiki page [1] with a summary of arguments in relation to the project name change vote and extended the deadline. You can vote or update your choice until 23h59 UTC on 7 Nov 2019. Only the last vote counts. All eligible voters must have received an update on their member email alias. If you haven't receive your voting link and credential please let us know on election-officials(a)opensuse.org. Regards, Ish Sookun [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_name_change_vote -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] Getting Started With Linux Magazines Leap 15.1

by ddemaio

Hi all, If any of you are interested in me shipping you some Getting Started With Linux Magazines of Leap 15.1, please let me know. You can find the magazine at http://www.linux-magazine.com/Resources/Special-Editions/36-Getting-Started… These are great to have at a booth for a community conference or to interact with a local university or Linux for a Linux Users group. If you are interested, I can send you some. One bundle has 30 magazines. Just let me know how many bundles you would need and send me your address. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"

by Stefan Seyfried

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] [netiquette] efficient quoting of replies

by Adam Spiers

Someone (not relevant who) wrote: [snipped gigantic block of quoted text] >Logo vote is coming as soon as we figure out the name. Please can *everyone*[1] trim unnecessary quoted text from their replies? It's tiring to have to scroll through pages of old text just to reach a one-line reply at the bottom. Thanks in advance! [1] Sorry $sender, not meaning to pick on you - I have seen this happen a lot from many people recently; this was just the straw on the camel's back ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] Forwarder not working

by Ish Sookun

Hi Jim, I sent you the below email and cc'ed the Election Committee on Saturday. There was no reply until today when you mentioned that you didn't receive my email. Could you have a look whether some of the emails are being marked as spam? Regards, Ish Sookun -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: openSUSE Project Name Change Vote Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 17:16:18 +0400 From: Ish Sookun <ish.sookun(a)lasentinelle.mu> Organization: La Sentinelle Ltd To: Jim Henderson <hendersj(a)gmail.com> CC: openSUSE Election Officials <election-officials(a)opensuse.org> Hi Jim, On 10/11/19 11:43 PM, Jim Henderson wrote: > I haven't, but my forwarder is working. I tested it with the first > notification that this would be used for sending this notification out. Can you please send your openSUSE member name, email alias and target email? I will check whether we have obtained the correct information. Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] openSUSE to have Summit in Dublin

by ddemaio

Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that there will be an openSUSE Summit Dublin <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> on March 27 and 28, 2020. Registration for the summit has begun and the Call for Papers is open until Feb. 14. The summit <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> will begin at the end ofSUSE <https://www.suse.com/>’s premier annual global technical conferenceSUSECON <https://www.susecon.com/>. Partners of openSUSE, open-source community projects and community members are encouraged to register for the summit <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> and submit a talk. The schedule for the openSUSE Summit Dublin <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> will be posted on Feb. 17. There is an openSUSE and open source track. There are three talks that can be submitted for the summit. One is a short talk with a 15-minute limit;a normal talk with a with a 30-minute limit and a long talk with a 45-minute limit. Attendees of SUSECON <https://www.susecon.com/> are welcome to attend and submit talks. openSUSE Summit Dublin <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> is a free community event that will take place on the last day of SUSECON and the Saturday that follows SUSECON. Contact me if you have any questions concerning the summit. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

[opensuse-project] 2019-09-03 board meeting minutes

by Christian Boltz

Hello, here are the minutes of the 2019-09-03 board meeting. You can also read them on https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2019-09-03 Absent: Gerald (in 4am timezone until early October) == Name voting == Simon will write an introduction letter listing pros and cons. Options will be "keep openSUSE" vs. "change the name", but we won't propose alternative names. If the result is "change", we'll have a second vote for the new name. == Board-internal communication channels == The board is evaluating open source options to replace hangouts and the whatsapp group. == Meetings == Gerald arranged for meetings of the board with people inside SUSE to discuss budget and IT infrastructure topics. Regards, Christian Boltz -- Durr, shouldn't send emails before having my morning coffee. [Steve Beattie in apparmor] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 year, 4 months

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