Hi all,
Since the current NNTP gateway by MicoFocus is being shutdown from Wed 19th of
June, there will temporarily be none. Meanwhile some of our community members
are working on replacing it, announcements about this will follow a.s.a.p.
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Hi,
I am myself afraid of this email, because this is about the basis of the
community, distributions, plans for foundation etc... Any change in
regards
to all things outlined here will be controversial and will have huge
influence
on the future of openSUSE as a whole. Take this very seriously, but
also don't
take it too seriously because it doesn't change the way community
operates,
but instead how it ends up being represented.
As mentioned in my talk week ago, I would like to change the openSUSE
logo
to break it off of SUSE branding, however as Richard rightfully pointed
out,
the suggestion should also mention changing the name of community and
distributions, to remove the `SUSE` part of `openSUSE`, on top of a few
other
issues that are unrelated to foundation talks. [1,2]
We do need to tackle this now, considering we are going through vital
parts
of the talks of the Foundation, and both trademarks are planned to be
transferred at some point, but it might be best to start off the
foundation
with the name and logo that isn't necessarily tied to SUSE brand for
easier
legal proceedings between SUSE and the project, depending on the
community
outlook on the ideas.
openSUSE logo issues:
* older version of SUSE logo, which is similar enough to be
confusing, also
will require agreement between future openSUSE Foundation and SUSE to
use the
logo
* colour is too bright and light to stand out well on light
backgrounds [3]
* button variant looks the same as SUSE logo buttons, with the only
exception
being colour (and SUSE tends to use similar green for buttons they
haven't
updated in a long time)
For current proposals, and to propose more visit:
https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/issues/93
openSUSE name issues:
* contains `SUSE`, which will require agreement between future
openSUSE
Foundation and SUSE to use the name (we will need this anyway, because
we will
support older releases, but at least there would be some exit strategy
when
everything goes south built into the name of the foundation)
* we are endlessly complaining about wrong capitalization (and will
for the
rest of time), even SUSE has it easier with "only" SuSE, SuSe and Suse
[4]
* FSF complains about `open`, although that works with openness of the
collaboration, more than `free` or `libre` would (not to mention that
we do
have non-free repos) [5]
There has obviously been a lot of suggestions here, from various
contributors,
stuff like `Viridian Foundation` works quite well for the purposes of
the
naming, because it references SUSE, while not being directly tied to
SUSE name
(although it might be too generic and hard to type).
More important than the name itself however is to decide if we want to
change
the logo and/or the name at all, or we want to leave everything as is.
If we do
decide for a change there we will be able to choose the name and the
logo
through a vote, I or some other designer will just have to design and
fix up
logos proposed by the community for the vote (like it was previously
done with
the YaST mascot/logo, which looked crude before the redesign, but was a
great
community idea). [6]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgkMlCZiP4
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZmc4CXzFQ
[3] https://contrast-ratio.com/#%2373ba25-on-white
[4] https://i.imgur.com/ySr4JAA.png
[5] https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#openSUSE
[6]
https://github.com/yast/yast-theme/commit/1cdb9e9c2545ba1604f8bdf88864e9ae9…
LCP [Stasiek]
https://lcp.world
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Dear openSUSE Members,
There have been long discussions on the openSUSE Project mailing list
about the pros and cons of a the project name change. The discussions
contain a lot of arguments in favor or against such a change.
The community appears divided over this matter and under such
circumstances it is not easy to draw consensus by just looking at the
mailing list discussions. The board asked for a project name change vote
to obtain a clearer picture of the community's decision.
The vote will open on 10 October 2019 and end on 31 October 2019.
Members will receive their vote link and credential in an email sent to
their openSUSE email alias. Three weeks ago an email [1] was sent to the
project mailing list to inform members of this vote and thus giving
everyone enough time to check whether their openSUSE email alias is
redirecting emails properly. A second reminder [2] was sent about a week
ago.
If you haven't had time to update your member email alias, you can still
do so by sending an email to admin(a)opensuse.org. Please reach out to the
Election Officials through election-officials(a)opensuse.org if you are
having any trouble receiving your vote link.
The vote page asks whether we change the project name and the answer
option is either "yes" or "no". The result of the vote will be announced
on 1 November 2019.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
(from the Election Committee)
[1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-09/msg00005.html
[2] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-09/msg00062.html
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Dear openSUSE members,
The Board and the Election Committee have put together a wiki page [1]
with a summary of arguments in relation to the project name change vote
and extended the deadline.
You can vote or update your choice until 23h59 UTC on 7 Nov 2019. Only
the last vote counts.
All eligible voters must have received an update on their member email
alias. If you haven't receive your voting link and credential please let
us know on election-officials(a)opensuse.org.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
[1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_name_change_vote
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Hi all,
If any of you are interested in me shipping you some Getting Started
With Linux Magazines of Leap 15.1, please let me know. You can find the
magazine at
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Resources/Special-Editions/36-Getting-Started…
These are great to have at a booth for a community conference or to
interact with a local university or Linux for a Linux Users group. If
you are interested, I can send you some. One bundle has 30 magazines.
Just let me know how many bundles you would need and send me your address.
v/r
Doug
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Hi all,
after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with
immediate effect and forever.
To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait
for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop
all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up.
So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"?
Best regards,
Stefan
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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over
public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman
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Someone (not relevant who) wrote:
[snipped gigantic block of quoted text]
>Logo vote is coming as soon as we figure out the name.
Please can *everyone*[1] trim unnecessary quoted text from their
replies? It's tiring to have to scroll through pages of old text
just to reach a one-line reply at the bottom. Thanks in advance!
[1] Sorry $sender, not meaning to pick on you - I have seen this
happen a lot from many people recently; this was just the straw
on the camel's back ...
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Hi Jim,
I sent you the below email and cc'ed the Election Committee on Saturday.
There was no reply until today when you mentioned that you didn't
receive my email.
Could you have a look whether some of the emails are being marked as spam?
Regards,
Ish Sookun
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: openSUSE Project Name Change Vote
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 17:16:18 +0400
From: Ish Sookun <ish.sookun(a)lasentinelle.mu>
Organization: La Sentinelle Ltd
To: Jim Henderson <hendersj(a)gmail.com>
CC: openSUSE Election Officials <election-officials(a)opensuse.org>
Hi Jim,
On 10/11/19 11:43 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> I haven't, but my forwarder is working. I tested it with the first
> notification that this would be used for sending this notification out.
Can you please send your openSUSE member name, email alias and target
email? I will check whether we have obtained the correct information.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
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Hi all,
I just wanted to let you know that there will be an openSUSE Summit
Dublin <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> on March 27 and
28, 2020.
Registration for the summit has begun and the Call for Papers is open
until Feb. 14.
The summit <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> will begin
at the end ofSUSE <https://www.suse.com/>’s premier annual global
technical conferenceSUSECON <https://www.susecon.com/>.
Partners of openSUSE, open-source community projects and community
members are encouraged to register for the summit
<https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> and submit a talk.
The schedule for the openSUSE Summit Dublin
<https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> will be posted on Feb. 17.
There is an openSUSE and open source track. There are three talks that
can be submitted for the summit. One is a short talk with a 15-minute
limit;a normal talk with a with a 30-minute limit and a long talk with a
45-minute limit.
Attendees of SUSECON <https://www.susecon.com/> are welcome to attend
and submit talks. openSUSE Summit Dublin
<https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/Dublin> is a free community
event that will take place on the last day of SUSECON and the Saturday
that follows SUSECON.
Contact me if you have any questions concerning the summit.
v/r
Doug
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Hello,
here are the minutes of the 2019-09-03 board meeting.
You can also read them on
https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2019-09-03
Absent: Gerald (in 4am timezone until early October)
== Name voting ==
Simon will write an introduction letter listing pros and cons. Options
will be "keep openSUSE" vs. "change the name", but we won't propose
alternative names. If the result is "change", we'll have a second vote
for the new name.
== Board-internal communication channels ==
The board is evaluating open source options to replace hangouts and the
whatsapp group.
== Meetings ==
Gerald arranged for meetings of the board with people inside SUSE to
discuss budget and IT infrastructure topics.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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