August 2022 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Notice] - openSUSE Regular Board election 2021
by Ariez Vachha - openSUSE 01 Nov '22

01 Nov '22

Dear openSUSE members, openSUSE Board Election 2021 [1] It's time to elect new Board members to fill empty seats on the openSUSE Board. There are two seats for election in accordance per our normal election cycle. This is a regular election as defined in our Election Rules [2] ## Phase 0 01 November 2021 - Announcement of the Board Election 2021 - Call for Nominations and Applications for Board candidacy - Membership drive 22 November 2020 - Nominations and Applications for Board candidacy close ## Phase 1 22 November 2021 - Announcement of the final list of candidates - Campaign begins - Membership drive continues, opportunity to apply for openSUSE Membership, but members will only be eligible to vote and not run as a candidate ## Phase 2 13 December 2021 - Ballots open: Please cast your vote during this time - Campaign continues 30 December 2021 - Ballots close 31 December 2021 - Announcement of results To stand for a position in the openSUSE Board please send an email to: * project(a)lists.opensuse.org and * election-officials(a)lists.opensuse.org If a member would like to nominate another member, please inform the Election Committee and the officials will contact the nominee to ask whether they would like to run as a Board candidate. Only openSUSE members are eligible to run for openSUSE Board openings in accordance with the Eligibility and Validity section of our Election Rules [2]. The Election Committee [3] are hereby calling for Nominations & Applications for the openSUSE Board. [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules [3] Members: Ish Sookun, Edwin Zakaria and Ariez Vachha. -- Regards, The Election Committee election-officials(a)lists.opensuse.org

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Community Meeting/ALP WG: Week 35
by ddemaio 29 Aug '22

29 Aug '22

Hi all, The ALP Work Group (WG) will take place tomorrow at 14:30 UTC. No specific topic is planned as we are waiting on some responses from people on holiday. The Community Meeting will be on Thursday at 19:00 UTC. We went over the asknot-ng section and will continue to expand on that. Both meetings will be in https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting You can view the meeting notes from the ALP WG and other notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting. v/r Doug

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Reminder meeting : openSUSE Board meeting next Monday (13:00 Europe/Berlin)
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 27 Aug '22

27 Aug '22

Hello all, The biweekly board conf call will be held in two days at 13:00 Europe/Berlin time (CET = UTC+1) Meeting will be in the regular Board Meeting Room https://meet.opensuse.org/OSBoard Current Topics: https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Board Members: If you cannot participate, please advise by replying to this mail.

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redirect connect-o-o to useful page
by Marcel Richter 24 Aug '22

24 Aug '22

hi, connect is dead, the subdomain still exists and could be useful. the subdomain should redirect to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels or build a page like a linktree with similar Informations how new users can connect to the community. v/r marcel

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Community Meeting/ALP WG: Week 34
by ddemaio 22 Aug '22

22 Aug '22

Hi all, The ALP Work Group (WG) will take place tomorrow at 14:30 UTC. I'm still waiting on info from our meeting last week, so I don't have any update on the topics listed on https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20220816 The Community Meeting will be on Thursday at 19:00 UTC. Part of the plan will be to update some yml for asknot-ng. Both meetings will be in https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting You can view the meeting notes from the ALP WG and other notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting. v/r Doug

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Concern for open-source to consider
by doug demaio 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Hi all, I am writing this email to the project to bring your attention to a troubling situation that has implications for the free open-source software community. Three related events took place last week that I believe threaten the open-source movement, restrict the freedom of expression of developers through code, and put us in a position to consider alternative solutions to approaching authoritarian constructs. Firstly, last week, the United States Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctioned open source software Tornado Cash. Make no mistake, this was a sanctioning of a technology. Writing code is a freedom and we as an open-source community value the freedoms to use, share, study, modify and share code. I don’t believe any of us want this freedoms to be taken away. In Bernstein vs. US, courts long ago that code is speech and is protected by the First Amendment. I realize we are a global community and US laws don’t apply to everyone, but it can influence and actions do extend beyond boarders, which led to the second and third events. GitHub removed the account of the code and removed its developers. [1] These developers were de-platformed from GitHub based on OFAC's whim. This brings up an important question. Should our community begin to think about alternatives to these source code hosting services like GitHub and GitLab? They are both companies and they do conform authoritarian constructs regardless of legal precedent. In this case, it proved to be not a private company decision based on media reporting, but a decision based on the repercussion from OFAC, which is very powerful if you know anything about financial authorities. I believe it is worth discussing the possibility of finding a decentralized solution. This event could provide that push we need to adjust the way we move the project forward. I understand we can host code ourselves, but believe joining an established decentralized solution would lower the attack vector of a single solution and allow for us to join a larger community that shares the same principles and values toward the freedoms of open-source software. The third event was that Dutch authorities arrested the developer Alexey Pertsev. There is little information about his arrest, but it appears to be done to intimidate developers from expressing their freedom to develop free software. Maybe more will come out, but this situation instantly brought back memories of Aaron Swartz.[2] My hope is that it does not end up like the way it did with him. The FSFE, FSF and Open-Source Initiative are organizations we have established that would help us in a similar situation. I hope that stand up and defend this developer given the situation aligns clearly with these organizations' purpose. Do you think there is a collective document we should create or something else that can be done for us to collectively voice our views on this overreach? Maybe even creating some sort of Developer Freedom pin that helps us establish a movement when things like this happen. It seems to be a repetitive thing, and maybe we should prepare for this. I ask that each of you voice your concern about the above situation to these helpful organizations if you would like to help. Questions Rephrased: 1. Should we begin to think about alternatives to source code hosting services like GitHub and GitLab? 2. Do you think there is a collective document we need or something else we can do to voice the views on this subject? I hope people find this information useful, discuss it and express their opinions in a manner where we can find an actionable response to this overrearch. I believe it is in the interest of the openSUSE Project, and other projects and organizations to collectively stand up together and voice an opinion that we reject these efforts to censor open-source code. [1] - https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/10/github_tornado_cookies/ [2] - https://youtu.be/vy9tSaZFlPI?t=43 v/r Doug

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[opensuse-project] https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root RE: GDM
by Felix Miata 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Some distros put GDM and Gnome on tty1 instead of tty7, e.g. RedHat/Fedora, home of systemd & Lennart Poettering (or at least used to be before his hiring by Microsoft). Is openSUSE one of them? I never install GDM or Gnome, so don't know, but recommendations in various docs, e.g. $SUBJECT, to open a tty via Ctrl-Alt-F1 need adjustment if the answer is true. Ctrl-Alt-F6 may now be the better recommendation. As I understand it, when GDM is on tty1, it sometimes also ties up tty2. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams
by Gerald Pfeifer 16 Aug '22

16 Aug '22

Hi folks, by chance I ran into https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams and noticed a couple of oddities (= historical artefacts?) * There is a team "Community Council" listed, which "Solves internal and external conflicts and communication issues". I never heard of that, and indeed following the link it ... redirects to the Board page. => This team best should be removed to reduce possible confusion, alas I don't know how to? The page appears to be generated automatically? Who can help? * The "openSUSE team at SUSE" as such does not exist any longer. And the links is borken. => Same as above; how do we get rid of that entry on that page? * Ditto for https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening (which should be removed) and its entry on that page under the label of "openFATE screening". Any help (or pointers) would be lovely - thank you! Gerald

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Board Meeting Monday 2022-08-15 13:00 CEST
by Axel Braun 16 Aug '22

16 Aug '22

= Board Meeting Monday 2022-08-15 13:00 CEST = * Present: Gerald, Axel, Mau * Guests: Doug, Emily, Luna/bittin * Excused: Attila, Syds == openSUSE.Asia Summit: questions from organizers == * https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issue/50 * https://groups.google.com/g/opensuseasia-summit/c/K-IIGC6SZms * AI Doug: respond re sponsoring * AI Mau:: check with Attila about co-presenting a keynote at Asia summit. Mau 50/50 maybe traveling * AI Gerald: respond that Mau/board are looking into == openSUSE moderation Team update == * Announcement and community meeting presentation postponed. WIP. No update at the moment == Tornado Cash situation and the consequences it could have for Free Software/openSUSE == * Discussion about the specific issue and whether/how to respond as project. * Next step: send an email to project@ ML to inform about what happened and the consequences to free software, to start a discussion also about GitHub and source code infrastructure. * Doug agreed to write such a email: * https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/ SBZ3NSI27TN5WBJRIU6UJSHER3XLHO3M/ * Axel is talking with the FSFE * Big thanks to Doug for raising this! == openSUSE Foundation? Update == * Patrick sent an email with a number of good data point. * Gerald will answer with a follow-up thoughts, questions,..., hopefully getting more discussion going. Meeting closed at 13:48 CEST

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