openSUSE Project August 2020

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect

by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

1 month, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Please close my membership

by James Mason

Hello, It is with despair that I ask that you cancel my membership in openSUSE. The constant bickering on the mailing lists is by far outweighing any constructive growth/change in the project, and in light of everything else going on in the world, I just don't have the headspace for all that negative, unproductive noise. I'm cc'ing the project overall; please let this serve as a lesson that if one thinks they can bicker their way to the end result they want, they may find they arrive there alone. James Mason Technical Architect, Public Cloud SUSE

5 months, 2 weeks

[opensuse-project] OpenSUSE Afterhours

by Jason Evans

Hi all, There are a few open-source projects that have regular live streams/meetings about what's going on the project, interviews, etc. For example, there are Kubernetes office hours and Rancher office hours on YouTube. I would like to know if anyone would like to produce a regular official OpenSUSE After Hours stream where people involved in different projects at OpenSUSE can talk about what they are working on, what it's like being a member, etc. I'm thinking specifically about projects like Kubic, Uyuni, and OpenQA. Ideally this stream would be 100% geeky geeko fun and no politics (internal or otherwise). Just throwing this out there. Best Regards, Jason Evans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] openSUSE Ad-hoc Board Election result is here

by Ish Sookun

Dear openSUSE members, The openSUSE Ad-hoc Board election [1] is now closed. Stasiek Michalski has been elected to join the openSUSE Board. Election result: Stasiek Michalski 160 Pierre Böckmann 70 234 out of 510 eligible members have cast their vote in this election. We recorded 4 blank votes. We thank both of them for stepping up and running in this election and we congratulate Stasiek for his win. Regards, Ish Sookun // on behalf of the Election Committee [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 2 weeks

[opensuse-project] opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list

by ITwrx

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 2 weeks

[opensuse-project] Improving visibility between maintainers and end-users?

by Adrien Glauser

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello, This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation. I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health" of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this information. Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be registered against official repositories. Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o-o, for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE distributions. Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make it happen? Best, Adrien -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEU4ol/0bSQTwqpAkNMy9Aieh+wJwFAl9GkWAACgkQMy9Aieh+ wJyLUggAkiyzuDsdY2T0QpqjwNuV1hO9R78kN+M57l4sPDxvDwzz34s4uQgnMjJt ZGU+OJWKpmvhgB5rvSXDOrsVkx6XoyW6iPlRBgBeb5qdU0nncmhlRTSiYEQgh1ix dGCkh8lpvn1WQzS3vbrALCjpYLwPNLgRZY7Eavg+3I7HRffFS0M3y5nNL7dHhg+Q 25vcrZqh7jZeNf0aO7TcElSbF1hbfqUSJ39JJvsLXZITQsjRA2LMswviKsn7gRE/ G8bmEi/7Ky5N8Fn1SsLSnVeUE3IaHoWqasR56e/707xZ4/AaVLFrzzyHky+vFr/k 86i7yM4Byh8v5afQoWVLkBVH6f7/ZQ== =MCXP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 2 weeks

[opensuse-project] Election campaign page

by Ish Sookun

Dear all, Stasiek has set up his campaign page at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ad_hoc_Board_election_2020_platform_hellcp. If you have questions for him as a running candidate, feel free to ask. Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 3 weeks

[opensuse-project] Working on Foundation & Governance

by Vinzenz Vietzke

Hi all, as you can see in the minutes [1] for the last board meeting on 2020-08-04 we once again talked about the long standing topic of an openSUSE foundation. This came up in the light of the past months and the recent thread on this mailing list where governance structures were discussed. [2] Quoting the minutes "We need to broaden the group of people working on foundation" this is where we want to give the topic a push here on project ML. To give everyone an overview of what is done until now I condensed documents floating around in the wiki at "Current state". [3] *The why* The openSUSE community has the reputation of being progressive and thriving in terms of technical aspects. This is where the "do-ocracy" works impressively. Yet our organizational structure sometimes lacks behind, which is why we need to talk. There are good reasons for an independent openSUSE legal entity that have been already been discussed extensively before. Yet this comes with governance structures being not only necessary but also obligate. Having had structural challenging times recently and an obvious need from the community for progressive discussions makes the picture complete somehow. So throwing both topics together is just a logical consequence there. *To do* So I hereby invite everyone interested to chime in. Please get to know what's already been done on the first hand. And then give input, constructive criticism and ideas on both parts of the story - Foundation and Governance. *A few thoughts on the practical side* To add comments on the existing stuff it might be good to copy text to some etherpad for collaborative work. If desired we also can set up a conference call or even revive the pre-existing mailing list. [4] [5] Looking forward to healthy and interesting discussions! vinz. [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-08/msg00064.html [2] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-07/msg00085.html ff. [3] https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Foundation [4] https://etherpad.opensuse.org [5] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-foundation/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 3 weeks

[opensuse-project] Leap 15.2 Install party @ GOLEM: (quick!) report

by Dario Faggioli

Hello, This mail just to say that we did an openSUSE Leap 15.2 Launch Party, here at the local LUG (it's called GOLEM, it's in a small town in central Italy), and I feel like making a quick report. See these posts for some info: - https://twitter.com/DarioFaggioli/status/1285544719121035265 - https://twitter.com/DarioFaggioli/status/1286014538899496960 - https://twitter.com/DarioFaggioli/status/1287084502913888261 The second one has some pictures, although pretty bad ones. Sorry. :-/ We have space outside, so we could do an actual physical event and still respect the social distancing restrictions which are continue to hold here in Italy. First of all, this meant that I could bring and distribute the super- awesome swags that Doug sent me. And I really want to thank him a lot one more time for shipping them over extremely quickly. They are great and people loved them! Ah, the event was also recorded, but they still have to let me know whether that worked well or not. I decided to do a live install as I think our installer is great, and wanted to show it off a bit. :-) In fact, I've heard a few times people saying that installing openSUSE is difficult, and I wanted to give it a shot to busting that myth. I showed how it is possible to install the distro with just a few clicks, which is the opposite of difficult. After that, I went back and explained all the various possible customizations that one can make -- but only if she wants to-- at each stage. Feedback on this was extremely good, and I think I'm going to reuse this same approach for other similar occasions. While the installer was copying packages, there was the time to talk a bit about the characteristics of Leap such as its goals, release cycle, development process, relationship with SLE, etc. I quickly mentioned the maintenance process, taking advantage of some slides kindly provided by Marina (thanks to you again as well!), and this also was perceived as very interesting. After the system was ready, I had the time to showcase YaST a little, to explain how to add Packman repos for the codecs and to introduce BTRFS snapshots, snapper and demo a reboot into a previous snapshot and the rollback. I managed to hint quickly at OBS, but there was only the time to mention OpenQA, and I couldn't give them a meaningful tour of these two. People where curious and interested, so I call the event a success. They asked questions mainly about YaST, BTRFS and zypper. Plus two more, rather specific ones: 1) why don't we ship/install multimedia codec by default (even the proprietary and patent encumbered ones), like Ubuntu and even Debian? 2) why don't we use an LTSS kernel for Leap? Just to be clear, I'm not actually asking the questions here. :-) I just felt it would be useful to report this, especially considering that I hear these being asked pretty often, during various events or in various channels or forums. Anyways, I honestly think the event was a good one, considering that we're a small LUG from a small place and that we're still elbow deep inside a pandemic. :-/ And we're already planning a similar event about Tumbleweed! Not a release party, probably... or maybe yes: I just have to make it coincide with the publishing of a TW snapshot, which should not be too difficult after all. :-P Best Regards -- Dario Faggioli, Ph.D http://about.me/dario.faggioli Virtualization Software Engineer SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- <<This happens because _I_ choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)

8 months, 3 weeks

Re: [opensuse-project] Working on Foundation & Governance

by Vinzenz Vietzke

Hi, Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2020, 18:11:40 CEST schrieb David Mulder: > Not sure who else this effected, but Vinz your last message was caught in > the SUSE spam filter. I had to release it. Maybe it was blocked for others > also? Thanks for pointing out! I'll see if I can tweak stuff on my mail client or the server. > (and yes, I think many folks have been on vacation) Mhm, I'll get back to the topic in a few weeks maybe. Thanks! vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

8 months, 3 weeks

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