Hello,
It is with despair that I ask that you cancel my membership in
openSUSE. The constant bickering on the mailing lists is by far
outweighing any constructive growth/change in the project, and in light
of everything else going on in the world, I just don't have the
headspace for all that negative, unproductive noise.
I'm cc'ing the project overall; please let this serve as a lesson that
if one thinks they can bicker their way to the end result they want,
they may find they arrive there alone.
James Mason
Technical Architect, Public Cloud
SUSE
Hi all,
There are a few open-source projects that have regular live
streams/meetings about what's going on the project, interviews, etc. For
example, there are Kubernetes office hours and Rancher office hours on
YouTube.
I would like to know if anyone would like to produce a regular official
OpenSUSE After Hours stream where people involved in different projects
at OpenSUSE can talk about what they are working on, what it's like
being a member, etc. I'm thinking specifically about projects like
Kubic, Uyuni, and OpenQA. Ideally this stream would be 100% geeky geeko
fun and no politics (internal or otherwise).
Just throwing this out there.
Best Regards,
Jason Evans
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Dear openSUSE members,
The openSUSE Ad-hoc Board election [1] is now closed.
Stasiek Michalski has been elected to join the openSUSE Board.
Election result:
Stasiek Michalski 160
Pierre Böckmann 70
234 out of 510 eligible members have cast their vote in this election.
We recorded 4 blank votes.
We thank both of them for stepping up and running in this election and
we congratulate Stasiek for his win.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
// on behalf of the Election Committee
[1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election
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hi,
I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why
they both exist/which to use.
opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for
all the openSUSE distributions
opensuse-support English openSUSE support
thanks,
ITwrx
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Hello,
This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt
or disrupt an ongoing conversation.
I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health"
of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future
maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra
help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for
someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as
far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits
timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how
wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this
information.
Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number
of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that
maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be
registered against official repositories.
Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o-o,
for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and
maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more
maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to
motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE
distributions.
Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people
find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make
it happen?
Best,
Adrien
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Dear all,
Stasiek has set up his campaign page at
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ad_hoc_Board_election_2020_platform_hellcp.
If you have questions for him as a running candidate, feel free to ask.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
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Hi all,
as you can see in the minutes [1] for the last board meeting on 2020-08-04 we
once again talked about the long standing topic of an openSUSE foundation.
This came up in the light of the past months and the recent thread on this
mailing list where governance structures were discussed. [2]
Quoting the minutes "We need to broaden the group of people working on
foundation" this is where we want to give the topic a push here on project ML.
To give everyone an overview of what is done until now I condensed documents
floating around in the wiki at "Current state". [3]
*The why*
The openSUSE community has the reputation of being progressive and thriving in
terms of technical aspects. This is where the "do-ocracy" works impressively.
Yet our organizational structure sometimes lacks behind, which is why we need
to talk.
There are good reasons for an independent openSUSE legal entity that have been
already been discussed extensively before. Yet this comes with governance
structures being not only necessary but also obligate. Having had structural
challenging times recently and an obvious need from the community for
progressive discussions makes the picture complete somehow.
So throwing both topics together is just a logical consequence there.
*To do*
So I hereby invite everyone interested to chime in. Please get to know what's
already been done on the first hand. And then give input, constructive
criticism and ideas on both parts of the story - Foundation and Governance.
*A few thoughts on the practical side*
To add comments on the existing stuff it might be good to copy text to some
etherpad for collaborative work. If desired we also can set up a conference
call or even revive the pre-existing mailing list. [4] [5]
Looking forward to healthy and interesting discussions!
vinz.
[1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-08/msg00064.html
[2] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-07/msg00085.html ff.
[3] https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Foundation
[4] https://etherpad.opensuse.org
[5] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-foundation/
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Hello,
This mail just to say that we did an openSUSE Leap 15.2 Launch Party,
here at the local LUG (it's called GOLEM, it's in a small town in
central Italy), and I feel like making a quick report.
See these posts for some info:
- https://twitter.com/DarioFaggioli/status/1285544719121035265
- https://twitter.com/DarioFaggioli/status/1286014538899496960
- https://twitter.com/DarioFaggioli/status/1287084502913888261
The second one has some pictures, although pretty bad ones. Sorry. :-/
We have space outside, so we could do an actual physical event and
still respect the social distancing restrictions which are continue to
hold here in Italy.
First of all, this meant that I could bring and distribute the super-
awesome swags that Doug sent me. And I really want to thank him a lot
one more time for shipping them over extremely quickly. They are great
and people loved them!
Ah, the event was also recorded, but they still have to let me know
whether that worked well or not.
I decided to do a live install as I think our installer is great, and
wanted to show it off a bit. :-) In fact, I've heard a few times people
saying that installing openSUSE is difficult, and I wanted to give it a
shot to busting that myth.
I showed how it is possible to install the distro with just a few
clicks, which is the opposite of difficult. After that, I went back and
explained all the various possible customizations that one can make --
but only if she wants to-- at each stage.
Feedback on this was extremely good, and I think I'm going to reuse
this same approach for other similar occasions.
While the installer was copying packages, there was the time to talk a
bit about the characteristics of Leap such as its goals, release cycle,
development process, relationship with SLE, etc.
I quickly mentioned the maintenance process, taking advantage of some
slides kindly provided by Marina (thanks to you again as well!), and
this also was perceived as very interesting.
After the system was ready, I had the time to showcase YaST a little,
to explain how to add Packman repos for the codecs and to introduce
BTRFS snapshots, snapper and demo a reboot into a previous snapshot and
the rollback.
I managed to hint quickly at OBS, but there was only the time to
mention OpenQA, and I couldn't give them a meaningful tour of these
two.
People where curious and interested, so I call the event a success.
They asked questions mainly about YaST, BTRFS and zypper. Plus two
more, rather specific ones:
1) why don't we ship/install multimedia codec by default (even the
proprietary and patent encumbered ones), like Ubuntu and even
Debian?
2) why don't we use an LTSS kernel for Leap?
Just to be clear, I'm not actually asking the questions here. :-)
I just felt it would be useful to report this, especially considering
that I hear these being asked pretty often, during various events or in
various channels or forums.
Anyways, I honestly think the event was a good one, considering that
we're a small LUG from a small place and that we're still elbow deep
inside a pandemic. :-/
And we're already planning a similar event about Tumbleweed! Not a
release party, probably... or maybe yes: I just have to make it
coincide with the publishing of a TW snapshot, which should not be too
difficult after all. :-P
Best Regards
--
Dario Faggioli, Ph.D
http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Virtualization Software Engineer
SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/
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<<This happens because _I_ choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2020, 18:11:40 CEST schrieb David Mulder:
> Not sure who else this effected, but Vinz your last message was caught in
> the SUSE spam filter. I had to release it. Maybe it was blocked for others
> also?
Thanks for pointing out! I'll see if I can tweak stuff on my mail client or
the server.
> (and yes, I think many folks have been on vacation)
Mhm, I'll get back to the topic in a few weeks maybe.
Thanks!
vinz.
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Hi all,
We have received more bundles of Getting Started with Linux Magazines
(picture -
https://twitter.com/openSUSE/status/1295604607863971840?s=20). If you
are interested in having me ship you a bundle (30 issues in each),
please let me know. They can be uses for events, university students,
classes, etc. Let me know. Have a lot of fun!
v/r
Doug
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