Hi everybody,
as you all know, we have the openSUSE Members, a group of contributors through
their sustained and substantial contributors that are eligible to participate
in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks. We have now about 600
of them, but as you can see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of
them voted.
This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in
elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is
somewhere in middle. This is something we need to know when we take project
wide decisions in order to correctly assess the communities interest in the
topic.
This is a recurring topic that has been discussed at the openSUSE Board Face to
Face meeting last year, oSC 15, and on this list several times over the last
few years. Taking these into consideration, we (in the board) think it would
be a good idea to implement something to help with ensuring our Membership list
accurately reflects our current Membership. I have put together a tool which
attempts to detect an openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS,
bugzilla, maybe more. This tool will remember when we last saw openSUSE Member
on any of those channels and if they doesn't show for 6 months, we will send
them an e-mail asking whether they still wants to be a member. A response to
that email will automatically count as activity and preserve the Members
status. If there is no response within 30 days of the notification, the Member
will be 'retired' and be considered a 'Member emeritus'. If someone is retired
incorrectly, or a 'Member emeritus' returns to the Project and wants a
restoration of their voting privilege, they will be unretired without question
by the Membership Committee.
There are few implementation details to be worked out, so we don't expect this
to go live overnight but consider this a "statement of intent" and an
explanation of how we expect things to work before we start testing the
process.
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To answer some of the obvious questions:
Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway after measuring and evaluating
their activity?
A: No, that would be too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that
we cannot measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator
that those people are no longer interested, but they might be just working
on project aspects we cannot measure. openSUSE Members are members until
THEY no longer want to be. We believe this system preserves that principle.
Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of
not being interested?
A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (6 months) and if we monitor even
mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere. We intend to word the
'ping' email in a way that is not judgemental, but just makes it clear that
we have failed to automatically find evidence of contribution so want to make
sure they are still interested in remaining a Member.
Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member?
A: Not really. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever without
question. Now it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big
change, just a little difference.
Q: What if mail with warning gets lost?
A: If you lose your membership by accident by losing an e-mail, you can still
contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated
immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix
your e-mail in connect.opensuse.org in that case ;-)
Q: Will retired members retain their email & IRC cloak perks?
A: No, the intention is that retired members will no longer be eligible for
@opensuse.org email addresses and Freenode IRC cloaks.
[1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/49480/opensuse-board-el…
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Hello,
I'd like to ask you to extend the permission for making and selling
embroidered openSUSE shirts at www.hellotux.com and www.pingvinbolt.hu.
Still the last permission request we sold 33 pcs.
Thank you,
Gabor KUM
owner of HELLOTUX
Hello,
Since containers are something that we support in openSUSE, it would be
great if we could have a "topic" mailing list for various container
runtimes in openSUSE. Is there a process for creating a new mailinglist
apart from sending an email here and hoping for the best? :P
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Hi,
Upstream KDE Plasma developers have announced Plasma 5.8 as LTS
release which comes handy for a stable release like Leap.
Unfortunately the original schedule was a bit too late for us. So
after some discussions the Plasma 5.8 release was moved two weeks
earlier to give us a chance to have it in 42.2.
I don't feel comfortable with 5.8 dot zero in 42.2's default desktop
though. I'm quite sure there will be important bugs to fix once
exposed to the general public. Therefore I'd like to move the Leap
release schedule two weeks later so we can have at least 5.8.1 +
potential backported fixes. That means
- relabel RC1 to Beta3 on Oct 6th
- new RC1 will be Oct. 10th
- RC2 Nov 2nd
- GM Nov 10th
- Release at Nov 16th
cu
Ludwig
[1] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2016-August/057731.html
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Hi all,
Beta 1 for openSUSE Leap 42.2 is expected to be released next week.
Please consider helping where you can for this next release. There are
some paragraphs in the yast-slide-show on https://l10n.opensuse.org that
could be translated. It is really easy to translate. You go to the site,
sign up for an account and start translated.
If you want to help with the release team, contact
opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org. (The submission deadline for Beta 1 of
openSUSE Leap 42.2 is Thursday, Aug. 25.)
If you want to help with marketing, make sure to subscribe to
opensuse-marketing(a)opensuse.org or start adding information about the
coming release to https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:42.2
v/r
Doug
Currently on the Leap 42.1 page[1], we provide just the key fingerprint
and don't also provide the whole key (for the super paranoid). However,
given the fact that people have concerns about key fingerprints in
general[2] we should also provide a link (served over TLS) to a copy of
the openSUSE project signing key. The same goes for the Tumbleweed and
Leap 42.2 download pages.
As a separate issue, the .sha256 files for Tumbleweed don't use the same
filename as the download. This is a minor issue, but it means that you
have to rename the downloaded file so you can do the regular `sha256sum
-c && gpg --verify` workflow.
[1]: https://software.opensuse.org/421/en
[2]: https://evil32.com/
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Hey I just downloaded Tumbleweed 20160817 but when I try to verify the
signature I get this ,
with gpg:
gpg: Signature made Thu 18 Aug 2016 03:45:48 AM EEST using RSA key ID 3DBDC284
gpg: Can't check signature: No public key
and this with sha256sum:
openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20160817-Media.iso: OK
sha256sum: WARNING: 14 lines are improperly formatted
Is it ok or not?
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Hi all,
The next release of openSUSE Leap is coming along and we need some help
marketing it. One solution that could be helpful would be to have a
script like we have with Tumbleweed
(https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-08/msg00256.html) that
produces a list of the differences in version number from openSUSE Leap
42.1 to openSUSE Leap 42.2. It would also be great if the script could
list the differences between 42.1, 42.2 and SLE 12 SP2. this will help
us publicize the differences in the versions and allow us to articulate
the benefits of Leap to potential new users.
The scripts for Tumbleweed were written in python, so some of the script
for the Leap purpose could be reused. If you would like to write this
script for this and future releases of Leap, please please email the
openSUSE Factory Mailing List and cc me.
v/r
doug
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# Board Meeting Minutes 11 Aug 1500 CEST
## Present
- Richard Brown - Chair
- Kostas Koudaras
- Tomas Chvatal
- Michal Hrušecký
- Andrew Wafaa (Treasurer)
## Absent
- Bryan Lunduke - Rescheduled meeting incompatible with Timezone difference
- Gertjan Lettink - Technical Difficulties
## General Items
This meeting was carried out on Thursday 11th as too many people were
absent on Monday 9th Aug
### openSUSE Asia
The Board has been invited to give a keynote at openSUSE Asia - Bryan
Lunduke will be attending and providing the keynote
The Board is aware the CFP for openSUSE Asia has been well responded
to, but not from Europe - CALL FOR HELP - If you are from Europe and
interested in doing a talk at openSUSE, please submit your talk now!
### Travel Support Programme
Andrew will be on vacation during the busiest period for openSUSE Asia
TSP applications. Michal & Gertjan are considering whether they can
help cover this period.
### Bugzilla
The Board have recieved a complaint regarding a bugzilla contributor
using very abrasive language and attacking other contributors in
comments.
AI: Michal to write a warning email.
### Brasil
Aslan C. de M. Ramos (aslan.ramos(a)suse.com) has stepped up to encorage
and boost the openSUSE community in Brasil. If you're in Brasil and
interested in representing openSUSE at local events, please get in
touch with Aslan.
### LinuxCon NA & Europe
SUSE are Platinium sponsors of both events, and due to the community
nature of LinuxCon want to make sure openSUSE is a big part of their
presence there. For LinuxCon NA in a few weeks openSUSE will have a
significant portion of the booth and several demo machines showing
openSUSE Tumbleweed & Leap. For LinuxCon Europe plans are still being
discussed but a similar strong openSUSE presence is expected.
Anyone who happens to be going to either event and is willing to help
out please contact rbrown(a)suse.com
### GSoC Mentors
Google are sponsoring a summit for GSoC mentors. There is budget to
send two people, but there was 3 candidates. The GSoC mentors all
agreed on the name of one of the mentors who would go, but asked the
Board to conduct a lottery to decide on the second person.
We're happy to be able to say that Hernan Schmidt and Christopher
Bruckmayer will be going to the GSoC Mentors summit to represent
openSUSE.
Thanks to them and all of our GSoC mentors for making this a great
summer for our GSoCers.
### Trademark Request
The Board have heard from the members with the outstanding Trademark
request. Local legal requirements complicate our proposed solution.
Negotiations ongoing.
### Membership Tidyup
No action as Michal is busy moving house
### Infrastructure
The Board is really pleased to see the new "openSUSE Heroes" team
stepping up to help improve the situation with our infrastructure.
https://news.opensuse.org/2016/07/25/introducing-opensuse-heroes/
AI: Board to monitor the situation - Richard to continuing having
regular meetings with Roland and Lars to drive progress in this area.
### SLE Packages
The Board has spotted a number of cases in Leap 42.2 Alpha 2 where
packages inherited from SLE are newer than the ones available in
Tumbleweed or Devel Repos.
Reminders seem to have helped, but problem still ongoing.
AI: Richard to send both general and directed reminders internally at
SUSE to remind them of the SUSE company policy to contribute to
Tumbleweed before/in parralel/in sync with their work on SLE.
## Action Item Review
Due to the large number of action items, the progress of these will be
split into 3 sections
- DONE; This task is complete and will not be discussed in future meetings
- WIP; This task is in progress, and will be discussed in future meetings
- TODO; This task is still waiting for some progress by the Board
### DONE
### WIP
Board + Ludwig to figure out what to do with all the Volunteers for
the "openSUSE Release Team"
*Richard & Ludwig to discuss*
Board is discussing some ideas with our various Desktop Teams
Michal is retiring connect.opensuse.org and doing the Membership
tooling and maintenance.
Tomas has talked with Craig about OBS team preparing the code for
maintaner tidyup
*Feature in OBS teams TODO*
Bryan has started arrange informal exploratory discussions with
ownCloud, nextCloud and Kolab about closer relationships. Had some
good chats at oSC 16.
*Bryan to keep driving*
Kostas is reaching out to our few bloggers on lizards.opensuse.org
about moving to other platforms.
Richard has been talking to Douglas about the possibility of moving
news.opensuse.org to a new blogging platform. Richard's personal blog
is running a potential candidate (Jekyll with custom openSUSE theme.
http://rootco.de
### TODO
Board to request release-team(a)opensuse.org list for the Release Team
Board to investigate alternatives for voting & membership management
_To be done after the Membership Tidy Up_
Tomas will investigate Helios voting system for openSUSE
Richard to review/tune up filtering in current system so trademark
enquiries don't get lost
Tomas will talk with Andrew and Marketing teams about possible Kickstarter
Board intends to create a skeleton of the getting started guides to
help people get started with Using, Joining, and Partnering with
openSUSE
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I received the Southern California Linux Expo [SCALE] Call For Papers
notice yesterday (31 Jul 2016). It is copied here for your
edification.
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Southern California Linux Expo =E2=80=93 SCALE 15X =E2=80=93 is currently u=
nderway for
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in North America.
The Call for Presentations opened earlier this month and runs through
midnight Pacific Standard Time on Nov. 15. Submit early to avoid the
last-minute rush.
As the event has every year, SCALE 15X will have a wide variety of tracks
available, and a list of tracks -- as well as instructions on how to submit
-- are listed on the SCALE 15X CFP page at
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/cfp?utm_source=3Dphplist146&utm_med=
ium=3Demail&utm_content=3Dtext&utm_campaign=3D%5BSCALE+15X%5D+CFP+open+now%=
3A+Want+to+speak+at+SCALE+15X%3F
SCALE 15X will be held from March 2-5, 2017, at the Pasadena Convention
Center in Pasadena, California, near Los Angeles. More information will be
available as it become confirmed on the SCALE 15X website at
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org?utm_source=3Dphplist146&utm_medium=3Demail&ut=
m_content=3Dtext&utm_campaign=3D%5BSCALE+15X%5D+CFP+open+now%3A+Want+to+spe=
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