Hi all,
Thank you for the conference. It was good to meet you in person. Now
I have even more projects I would like to work on...
I would like to enhance my short reports from the conference (still
to be posted) by including the links to the speakers' slides.
Ideally they would be linked from
http://conference.opensuse.org/schedule/ but that page is not a
wiki. So can the speakers please post the links to their slides into
this thread?
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Hello Everyone,
The voting to choose a name had the following top choices.
1 openSUSE Enterprise Server (OSES) *[1]
2. Geeko Enterprise Linux (GEL) *[2]
Geeko Linux Enterpise Server (GLES) *[2]
GreenOS (GOS) *[3]
5. SINS Is Not SLES (SINS) *[4]
Community Driven Enterprise Linux (CDEL)
Community Enterprise Server (CES)
Yet Another Enterprise Linux (YAEL)
[1] (only available for openSUSE LTS as openSUSE is trademarked)
[2] (only available for openSUSE LTS as geeko is trademarked maybe use
greko instead)
[3] (confusion with green as usually enviromentally linked.)
[4] (SLES is a possible trademarked)
We have two very strong yet divergent groups.
OpenSUSE LTS. The people supporting this think we should start with openSUSE
11.2. So there is no real need to do much right now as we still have 18+
months till the community needs to take over this to provide longer term
support.
openSLES. The people supporting this think we need to get started right now
and start with SLES 11. Biggest concern is which license we use could be
invalidated by Novell and then access to the updates would become limited or
totally unavliable.
We have two very strong small groups supporting each. Each group seems to not
want to support the other group. My concern is with this fragmentation that
there will not be enough trackion to make this succeed.
LTS option
Currently we do not have enough qualified people to do the work to really do an
LTS. But with 18 months till work really needs to be done it is possible to
get the needed man power.
SLES option
It appears we have enough qualified people to do this, but it is going to take
a while as there are no funds behind this group at the moment so we would need
to use a license from an existing SLES or find someone to donate and purchase a
license. It is highly unlikely to have Novell give us a license as, it is seen
as taking away $$$ from sales of SLES.
So far I have had 80 people respond via the various medium's and there is
exactly 40 people that have expressed a clear choice with approxitmitly 20
other people that are following this without expressing a clear preference.
Question what do you think we should do next?
Will an openSUSE LTS provide a path to SLES or just fill the needs of the
openSUSE community in gaining a longer support window.
What is the most beneficial to the greater openSUSE/SLES community?
Which option is going to be the overall best? What are others opinions on
this?
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Hi all,
The openSUSE Project meeting for today is canceled as many of the
openSUSE team are traveling or in off-site meetings today. The next
meeting will be held in two weeks. If you have any questions or
concerns in the meantime, please feel free to bring them up on the
-project mailing list.
Best,
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Hello,
Now that the conference is over, could someone summerize what happened,
what was discussed. Any information for those of us that were unable to
attend. I have put things on hold till this information could be
received. It will really guide us on where we go next.
So anyone who was able to attend and could fill in the details for us
would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello Mates,
after the Conference i would like to say a big "Thank you" to all contributors
on the Conference.
Thanks :-)
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Unconference Session: openSUSE 11.2 and Maintenance
Introduction:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2009-08/msg00372.html
and following messages in this thread
Discussion
- NEED:
- Be able to submit updates with only osc (or an additional osc plugin)
- Externally visible status page of pending and released updates
- Community group which handle updates for openSUSE
- Security Updates must be ensured
- Technical discussion:
* patchinfo handling:
updates currently need
- summary, swampid, description, bugzilla list, package list,
distribution
- submitrequest extension:
* open fate request which has currently no ressources for implementation
vote here: https://features.opensuse.org/307621
- alternative: submit patchinfo by adding it to a pseudo package that is
part of the distribution, and that can be submitrequested against 11.2
update
AI rudi: develop meta package
AI: Magnus Boman: test + help
* handling of CRD'ed updates
- lots of discussion about internal instances, or manual osc diffs
- Marcus says that handling of CRD'ed updates is not important, we can
wait until CRD is expired for opensuse.
-> simplifies things.
AI: Move Update:Test to the external buildservice
* devel projects for openSUSE:11.2:
* not needed for maintained products
* but we need bugowner / maintainer list
-> we use maintainer list from the package in Factory
-> in case package is dropped, we copy the bugowner to 11.2
-> if the bugowner is unreachable, coolo is the owner
* fallback bugowner is initialized in openSUSE:11.2
- Non-technical discussion:
* Workflow for Updates:
- Requesting an update: NEEDINFO opensuse-maint(a)opensuse.org in bugzilla
- Handled by team of 3 community members and 2 Novell employees
- Novell employees will hand out SWAMPIDs upon internal consultation with
the team
- the team has to come up with a maintenance policy
AI: henne: create opensuse-maint team alias, subscribe volunteers
Greetings,
Dirk
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Hi All,
I must be missing something here, or it might have been explained but my
attention span across the zillions of emails around this topic of
creating a new distro is just very bad...
For openSUSE 11.1, we will have updates ('support') for 18 months.
Those who wants to provide long term support for 11.1, can simply create
their own updates. It wouldn't be difficult to create a common repo
where people can contribute to patches for this purpose and keep doing
that for some 7 years or whatever the plan is. Heck, since we're not
talking massive changes and updates, anyone can help out with this, as
well as working on openSUSE Factory etc.
One issue with this, is that we normally clean up OBS by removing old,
unsupported distro versions, but that is surely a decision that can be
changed if there are such noble goals as to create a long term support
cycle.
By creating an entirely new distribution, some folks that previously
contributed to openSUSE will no longer have time for that, and put their
efforts into the new distro instead. In my opinion, we are already short
of people contributing and this split will obviously make that number
even smaller.
So, please enlighten me what I'm not getting here...
Cheers,
Magnus
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Is there a conference schedule with abstracts of the talks somewhere?
http://conference.opensuse.org/schedule/ only lists titles which is only
somewhat helpful.
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I will add however that there does seem to be a large amount of commercial appliances using centos. Had an opensles been avaliable three or four years ago, would the situation be different today?
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From: jperlow(a)gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:49:32
To: Graham Anderson<graham.anderson(a)gmail.com>; <opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org>
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE Long Term Support...
Susestudio is indeed nice, but for compaines that want to host their own build environments a self hosting distro based on sles would be nice as well.
I am acutually using suse studio myself, its a nice site.
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From: Graham Anderson <graham.anderson(a)gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:26:05
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Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE Long Term Support...
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 22:07:34 Jason Perlow wrote:
>That SUSE seems to have ceded the market for appliance
>server OS to Redhat/CentOS where an "OpenSLES" could provide some
>differentiation and superiority in the build system and various other
>aspects may be something that has been overlooked.
>
You do know that you can create a custom appliance OS from a choice of
openSUSE 11.1, SLED 10 or 11 and also SLES 10 or 11 using the rather groovy
susestudio.com?
As far as I'm aware there's a Novell support channel available for those
organisations that need it.
Given that *nobody* else in the appliance server sphere has_anything_ like
susestudio.com I'd hardly say this is a case of ceding the market ;)
Cheers the noo
Graham
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