Hi all,
after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with
immediate effect and forever.
To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait
for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop
all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up.
So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"?
Best regards,
Stefan
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Hi,
Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt
<Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>:
As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a
single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known
security issues since years[2].
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote:
> This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage,
> but in the hope that this time I get an answer;
> Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive
> forward a solution?
I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure
system!
what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the
functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are
allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support
for example?
An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail
address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an
eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but
probably there are better tools.
What did I miss?
I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon
as possible.
Regards
Christian Imhorst
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hi,
I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why
they both exist/which to use.
opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for
all the openSUSE distributions
opensuse-support English openSUSE support
thanks,
ITwrx
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Dear openSUSE community members,
this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board.
We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re-
election of the openSUSE board.
Reasoning:
In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a
candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those
concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly
harsh words on both sides.
Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks
Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been
ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never
been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or
indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should
have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has
never happened.
Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to
legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member.
Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board,
2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force
Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding
principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence
or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks
before the election and the election weeks itself.
Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board
statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles
and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's
decision to step down, too.
As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are
subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been
around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but
even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and
discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement
published by Marina.
As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents
which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the
openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the
complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the
community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules
itself.
Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see
whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean
new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead.
Kind regards
Pierre Böckmann
P.S.
Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth
details.
Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful
towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor
of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community.
Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few
weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community
elections outcome, rules and principles.
Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable
to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took
the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this
proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community.
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Dear openSUSE members,
just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board
has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an
election for that vacancy.
The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election
officials.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out!
Gerald
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Dear community
We need new hosting for the opensuse-community.org website as Bruno
"tigerfoot" Friedmann can't host it anymore for personal reasons.
If you're not familiar with the site, it's just a basic place for hosting
information and one-click installers for multimedia codecs, the YaST Community
Repositories "feed" and similar things. For legal reasons it's better to have
these things at arm's length outside the official openSUSE infrastructure.
However outside the United States I'm pretty sure there should be no legal
concerns about hosting this content (note: IANAL). It's been hosted by
different individuals in a couple of different European countries for a decade
or more now with zero issues.
The technical requirements are next to none. Maybe a few megabytes of storage
required for static html/css and a few xml files. I assume there's a
substantial number of hits/visits, but I don't have statistics. However the
files are very small, so the amount of data traffic shouldn't be overwhelming.
I'm willing to continue to maintain the content, if I can get access to the
new hosting via ftp or whatever.
So if you're interested in taking over the hosting, don't hesitate to step up,
and Bruno will assist with transferring the domain and any other formalities.
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In case anyone's interested in YA-example,
I run openSUSE Leap 15.1 & SLE 15sp1. The former, here, is very definitely the feeder/driver of use & adoption of the latter.
TW is not at all an option for production.
For me, core tech'y that I care about being both stable & modern includes:
kernel, systemd (incl systemd-networkd), dracut, grub, Xen, GCC, git & python
Options for openSUSE Leap 15.1, from devel repos, are available & packaged for ALL of those -- except systemd.
systemd, OTOH, is shipped in Leap15.1/Leap15.2/SLE15sp1/SLE15sp2 as v234 -- lacking modern functionality, & simply broken in places.
afaict, ONLY *TW* packages v244/245 ...
Trying to get ANY of the updated versions supported on SLE is an uphill battle, at best.
OBS builds of v244/v245 for any of those^ platforms are ... challenged; unless I've missed it, I've seen no successful package builds for any of them.
There's little/no interest or response from #opensuse-*, inquiries about policy to opensuse-support list (https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2020-04/msg00070.html) are, so far, uncommented.
Attempts to report brokenness, with links to known issues & fixes requiring updates, are dismissed as 'feature requests' with the bugs summarily/unilaterally CLOSED. e.g.,
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169476
"... we can't afford to backport a feature each time an openSUSE user is missing one ..."
I find that sort of response closeminded & myopic, but I get it -- not my distro, not my rules.
Here, a production OS without a modern/fully-functional systemd is of no interest/use to me; despite my personal preference ...
Unless/until an Enterprise-production-class Suse* packages/supports a modern systemd, it's no longer a option. Not Leap, not Jump, and not $SLE.
What's this mean just for me?
We used to be an all openSUSE/SLES shop; _quite_a_few_ hundreds of installs, a small king's-ransom in license/support costs. By end of this quarter, I'll have moved the _last_ bank of (8) *SUSE production servers, and the development desktops that serve them, to other OS.
Me, personally? I'll keep _my_ *personal* desktops & servers as franken-Leap instances as long as I can still hack them into submission; we'll see what systemd package's version stance does to my thinking ...
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Hi all,
I just want to let you know that we will have an openSUSE Virtual Summit
May 1 and 2 - https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt
More information will follow in the coming weeks leading up to the
summit. As we had to cancel the Dublin Summit, quite a few of the
speakers were interested in having a virtual summit if we could make it
happen. It looks like we found an option that will works.
I'll send out more information once I have it and post it on the
summit webpage. I plan to have the schedule ready by April 24.
v/r
Doug
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On Mon 2020-04-27, Christian Boltz wrote:
> Now we "only" need to move the forums and bugzilla (and of course
> also openid), but that are different stories for the next weeks ;-)
Moving bugzilla.opensuse.org/bugzilla.suse.com is in the works,
with the migration away from Micro Focus planned for May.
That one is more tricky since Micro Focus (Novell,...), SUSE, and
openSUSE all share one database instance and part of the carve out
is to separate out openSUSE and SUSE issues from all others with
surgical precision.
Christian and one or two others already helped test an earlier
export. Thank you! Now there is a public instance available at
https://bugzilla-opensuse-devel.suse.de/index.cgi
If you spot any REGRESSION (that is, something no longer works)
please let me know here TODAY (yes, very tight) and I'll relay.
Gerald
PS: Full focus is on moving this off Micro Focus, not updating,
enhancing, improving yet. So let's focus in the move for now.
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Op donderdag 30 april 2020 19:31:08 CEST schreef medwinz:
> On Fri, May 1, 2020, 12:04 AM Knurpht-openSUSE <knurpht(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
> > Op donderdag 30 april 2020 18:08:09 CEST schreef ddemaio:
> > > Hi all,
> > > If case any of you are interested in attending the openSUSE Virtual
> > > Summit tomorrow, just sign up at https://opensuse.reqmagic.com
> >
> > So far I have not been able to find a registration link of button, not in
> > any
> > browser.
> >
> > --
> > Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht
> > openSUSE Forums Team
>
> Hi Gertjan,
>
> Try https://opensuse.reqmagic.com/accounts/signup/
>
> Check the link in your email and login using your email address and
> password you register.
>
> --
> Edwin
Thanks, Edwin.
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