June 2022 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/): it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/), and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/): it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Notice] - openSUSE Regular Board election 2021
by Ariez Vachha - openSUSE 01 Nov '22

01 Nov '22

Dear openSUSE members, openSUSE Board Election 2021 [1] It's time to elect new Board members to fill empty seats on the openSUSE Board. There are two seats for election in accordance per our normal election cycle. This is a regular election as defined in our Election Rules [2] ## Phase 0 01 November 2021 - Announcement of the Board Election 2021 - Call for Nominations and Applications for Board candidacy - Membership drive 22 November 2020 - Nominations and Applications for Board candidacy close ## Phase 1 22 November 2021 - Announcement of the final list of candidates - Campaign begins - Membership drive continues, opportunity to apply for openSUSE Membership, but members will only be eligible to vote and not run as a candidate ## Phase 2 13 December 2021 - Ballots open: Please cast your vote during this time - Campaign continues 30 December 2021 - Ballots close 31 December 2021 - Announcement of results To stand for a position in the openSUSE Board please send an email to: * project(a)lists.opensuse.org and * election-officials(a)lists.opensuse.org If a member would like to nominate another member, please inform the Election Committee and the officials will contact the nominee to ask whether they would like to run as a Board candidate. Only openSUSE members are eligible to run for openSUSE Board openings in accordance with the Eligibility and Validity section of our Election Rules [2]. The Election Committee [3] are hereby calling for Nominations & Applications for the openSUSE Board. [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules [3] Members: Ish Sookun, Edwin Zakaria and Ariez Vachha. -- Regards, The Election Committee election-officials(a)lists.opensuse.org

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Community Meeting/ALP WG (cancelled this week): Week 26
by ddemaio 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Hi all, The ALP WG is cancelled this week due to hack week. The WG will happen next week (week 27) and we should have a special guest to ask questions to about ALP. The Community Meeting is scheduled for Thursday at 19:00 UTC. Where: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting You can view the meeting notes from the ALP WG and other notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting. v/r Doug

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Leap 15.4 retrospectife feedback is open unitil 7th July was Re: Leap 15.4 retro feedback is due to tomorrow night
by Lubos Kocman 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

On Tue, 2022-06-21 at 23:06 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > I expect devs/release managers to post to users lists if they want > > users feedback, yes :-/ > > Big plus one. > > Hello openSUSE! To start on the constructive note, to be fair with the community I've extended the Leap 15.4 survey for an extra week until 07.07 23:59 https://survey.opensuse.org/ Just for sake of history: We have 335 responses in total as of now. Regarding factory@ and project@ delivery that seems to be my fault as after looking in history, I see an undeliverable email as I did specify factory(a)opensuse.org and project(a)opensuse.org while cc`ing correctly devel(a)suse.de. So for that, I take the blame. See linked *pic, that the skip was not intentional. Factory users that read the release team report could still read it from our meeting minutes (was also shared on factory@, see subject: "openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 15.06.2022"). https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-20220615 I do agree that his was not communicated well, due to my fault at correctly addressing recipients. For the future I think best way forward would be to simply make it part of release annoucement and not create a separate annoucement for that. Or even make it part of get-o-o, e.g. in form of popup as we do for fresh GAs, when user visits /testing/. [0] - https://ibb.co/PN7f69H Lubos

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Re: Fwd: opensuse server issues going on now ?
by Luna Jernberg 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

Hey! Alright sorry then i know that for the future On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Axel Braun <axel.braun(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Hi Luna, > > Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2022, 07:14:47 CEST schrieb Luna Jernberg: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > [...] > > Why to project? support@ deals with, hm, issues that require support. It > is > not a *project* related issue > > We have not too many lists - we just need to make proper use of the > existing > ones.... > > Cheers > Axel > > PS: Pls get a proper mail address. Frickin google blocks my @o.o address > > >

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Fwd: opensuse server issues going on now ?
by Luna Jernberg 24 Jun '22

24 Jun '22

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joe Salmeri <jmscdba(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:23:02 -0000 Subject: opensuse server issues going on now ? To: factory(a)lists.opensuse.org I was attempting to update to the new 20220622 build that was just published. I use tumbleweed-cli to control which build I switch to. In does not show a new build as available until after the build has been copied to a build folder ( example: https://download/opensuse.org/history20220622 ) I switched tumbleweed-cli to build 20220622, here are my repoositories: Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 90 (raised priority) : 1 repository 99 (default priority) : 7 repositories # | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | URI --+----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) (20220622) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ 2 | download.opensuse.org-oss | Main Repository (DEBUG) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ 3 | download.opensuse.org-oss_1 | Main Repository (Sources) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ 4 | download.opensuse.org-oss_2 | Main Repository (OSS) (20220622) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ 5 | download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed | Main Update Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/ 6 | google-chrome | google-chrome | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64 7 | openSUSE-20210215-0 | openSUSE-20210215-0 | No | ---- | ---- | cd:/?devices=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-VMware_Virtual_IDE_CDROM_Drive_10000000000000000001 8 | skype-stable | skype (stable) | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/ 9 | vlc | VLC | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/Tumbleweed/ zypper dup or zypper refresh fails with: Retrieving repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS) (20220622)' metadata ...........................................................................................[error] Repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS) (20220622)' is invalid. [download.opensuse.org-non-oss|http://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622…] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/repod…': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org port 80 after 98 ms: Connection refused - Can't provide ./repodata/dc7b3afc60d401de7ee4b3ef2816045a98feb2e30153cffcb43f32300f5dc389-primary.xml.gz Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS) (20220622)' because of the above error. Retrieving repository 'Main Repository (DEBUG)' metadata ........................................................................................................[error] Repository 'Main Repository (DEBUG)' is invalid. [download.opensuse.org-oss|http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/rep…] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/repodata/f889c274abb…': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org port 80 after 84 ms: Connection refused - Can't provide ./repodata/f889c274abb0761e4b3869ff0c8bacb1bd2f253449c86e2a193bbdb5fb1a55bb-primary.xml.gz Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'Main Repository (DEBUG)' because of the above error. Retrieving repository 'Main Repository (Sources)' metadata ......................................................................................................[error] Repository 'Main Repository (Sources)' is invalid. [download.opensuse.org-oss_1|http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/…] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/repodata/a743c61b4c…': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org port 80 after 84 ms: Connection refused - Can't provide ./repodata/a743c61b4c1af8cc7cc4c46638a9892e5a46781cf86c2a3b49b09578a4b72337-primary.xml.gz Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'Main Repository (Sources)' because of the above error. Retrieving repository 'Main Repository (OSS) (20220622)' metadata ...............................................................................................[error] Repository 'Main Repository (OSS) (20220622)' is invalid. [download.opensuse.org-oss_2|http://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622/t…] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622/tumbleweed/repo/oss/repodata/…': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org port 80 after 84 ms: Connection refused - Can't provide ./repodata/90d89069e262e73545f7149e8ce79f699ef7f2fe8198b599dfe601fe6836274f-appdata.xml.gz Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'Main Repository (OSS) (20220622)' because of the above error. Repository 'Main Update Repository' is up to date. Repository 'google-chrome' is up to date. Repository 'skype (stable)' is up to date. Repository 'VLC' is up to date. Some of the repositories have not been refreshed because of an error. If I go to the one of the 20220622 download locations in Chrome https://download.opensuse.org/history/20220622/tumbleweed/repo/oss/x86_64/ And then try to manually download a single item like: konsole-22.04.2-1.1.x86_64.rpm It returns: This site can’t be reached mirrorcache-us.opensuse.org refused to connect. I have a direct internet connection ( No proxy ) so it appears that there is a problem with the cache servers. Going to an older build like 20220606 which is what I am currently running has the same issues so that eliminates that 20220622 had not finished copying yet. Anybody else seeing this?

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Leap 15.4 retro feedback is due to tomorrow night
by Lubos Kocman 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

Hello openSUSE! The Leap 15.4 retrospective survey is still open until 22.06.2022 at 23:59 UTC. You can access the survey at survey.opensuse.org. If you downloaded Leap 15.4, please make sure to give us feedback. It will not take more than 2 minutes as the survey has only two questions. We have not received even half of the responses that we have received for 15.3. The openSUSE release team would highly appreciate any sharing or advertisement. Thank you Lubos

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Community Meeting/ALP WG: Week 25
by ddemaio 21 Jun '22

21 Jun '22

The ALP WG will take place today at 14:30 UTC The Community Meeting is on Thursday at 19:00 UTC. Both meetings will be in https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting You can view the meeting notes from the ALP WG and other notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting. v/r Doug

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Board Meeting Minutes 2022-06-20
by Knurpht-openSUSE 20 Jun '22

20 Jun '22

Minutes for the latest public Board Meetings = Board Meeting Monday 20June 2022 13.00 CEST = Present: Attila, Axel, Gerald, Gertjan, Neal (~13:15), Syds (~13.30) Guests: Emily Excused: Maurizio == Follow-up from oSC: "role of the board" == * Role of the board: * wait for oSC videos to be published, with reference to the board session ask broader community to ** think about desired (required) organization elements ** find volunteers for roles within org structure * These are prevailing steps in order to get legal structure running AI Syds: contact Patrick Fitzgerald * Emeritus memberhips: Simon Lees volunteered to propose an update to Election Rules (aka "Constitution") * plus (orthogonal): * https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issue/49 "Make Membership / Election officials aware of all members of the Emeritus Members group." == Housekeeping: Inactive maintainers on OBS == * Several users on OBS have an invalid mailaddress, but still are maintainers of packages * AI: Axel to trigger housekeeping with OBS Team (Adrian? buildservice(a)l.o.o?) -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team

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Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2022-04-11
by Neal Gompa 20 Jun '22

20 Jun '22

Sorry that this took a while to push out, it's been a bit hectic... The minutes are also available here: https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2022-04-11 = Minutes of openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes 2022-04-11 = Attendees: Axel, Neal, Gerald, Knurpht, Syds, Maurizio, Stefan Behlert, Lubos Kocman, Doug DeMaio Guests: Luna, Emily Excused: Atilla Minutes: Neal == Status on Open Letter == Axel prepared email to send, ran into LibreOffice bug, waiting on a few folks and will send tomorrow. == Adaptive Linux Platform (SLE-next) == Stefan: SUSE wishes to inform openSUSE about the next SUSE Linux Enterprise code stream. It's currently codenamed ALP to indicate significant rethinking of the future of SUSE Linux Enterprise. Notably, the biggest change is the entire codebase will be developed in the open in the Open Build Service. Members will be able to contribute and SUSE engineering will be developing it entirely in the open (modulo embargoed changes and sensitive security things). The goal is to make a true open SUSE Linux Enterprise platform. The plan is to launch the next SLE platform in fall 2023, which is ambitious, but we're hopeful. The change of the architecture leads to a change from products to solutions. The host OS will generally be small, while layered stuff supporting workloads will lifecycle separately. This will allow different aspects of the system to lifecycle accordingly. The development has started already and a working ALP is functional and useful for use and contribution. There will not be an alpha/beta release, and instead it will be continuously developed and maintained in OBS running up to the formal release. The goal is to change everything, it will not be like how things were in the past, and hopefully it will be better than ever before. Lubos: Has started getting feedback about the future of desktop in SLE. Syds: Is it immutable for the host OS? Stefan: It depends on what the customers want to set up, probably. One advantage of what we're doing is that we can start looking at how to support combinations in supported/unsupported content well. Believes in the Linux desktop. :) Is not sure how this affects existing products yet. Most likely the current plan will continue? Lubos: Idea is Leap 15.5 will be be based on SLE 15.5, maybe next Leap will be based on ALP, depending on how things go. Neal: We can reuse the Leap feature process for coordinating ALP development. Lubos: People might be afraid of the new thing, so Leap Micro might be a nice bridge between Leap 15 and ALP. Stefan: Not sure which OBS project it is yet. Maurizio: How is this going to work from a contributor point of view? Stefan: Not sure. Frederic Crozat and Jiří Šrain will know better i think. Neal: Is very excited about this and wants to get more hands-on with it. Gerald: It's very important that we will be able to offer a continuity of experience and not scare off regular users. Lubos: We should track work on providing an upgrade path. Gerald: In many ways, this is an evolution of what we've done in SUSE Linux over the decades. We've always tried to open things up more and making it more participatory. Stefan: There may be a bit of a bump because the x86_64 microarchitecture level is planned to be bumped to x86_64-v3 (6th generation Intel, 1st generation AMD Ryzen). == Latam Event == Two persons from Brasil, joined the Thursday Weekly meeting last week (7th April 2022) and wanted to create an openSUSE event in Latin America Emily: Idea around it is to grow the mindshare and presence of openSUSE beyond Europe. Lubos: Also would be good to grow SUSE mindshare there for usage and employee base. == Freewear == Freewear collects some % of the money for openSUSE things bought for the openSUSE Project, where to put the money? Neal: We could put the money into the fund for supporting contributors to travel for openSUSE? Axel: We could donate to friendly projects (e.g. Fedora, KDE, etc.). Doug: It could also go into funding giveaways for contributor swag. We'll figure out what to do with this at some point, the preference is to donate to projects, but we trust Doug to come up with a good solution. -- Neal Gompa (ID: Pharaoh_Atem)

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