Hi all,
To strengthen the openSUSE project we're looking for an enthusiastic Chief
Evangelist to:
- promote and spread the adoption of openSUSE
- be a public face for the project on conferences and events
- act as voice of the community back to Novell's leadership team
- develop and nurture the openSUSE communities
- pro actively drive openSUSE marketing
This is a global role and as such, you can be located anywhere in the world.
For detailed information see:
http://www.novell.com/job_search/servlet/eJobSearch?Detail=007086
We're looking forward to you!
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Hello,
here's the status of Action Items.
You might have noticed that I'm sending this mail later than usual.
The reason is that Henne and I have decided to send it after the
meeting. The advantage is that it's more up-to-date. See #309085 below
for details.
New Action Items:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#328594 - Release BuildService Roadmap
#328611 - Try out wishlist handling / feature tracking in the wiki
(will be done by the Gnome team)
#328613 - Prepare explanation of Fate features and processses in the
wiki
#328622 - help.opensuse.org translations
BTW: The "Online Help" headline (and its translations) should be written
with ChollaWide (?) font. Yes, I know this means some work for someone
@SUSE (or whoever has this font available), but it's worth the effort.
Work in progress:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#223288 - create installation/usage videos
-> *NOW* would be a good time to do it ;-) to have the videos available
when 10.3 final is released.
#281622 - put packages from czech packagers team into buildservice
Vladimir wrote this will be done on demand from the community (but not
before because it's some additional work)
So if you want to help maintaining one of the packages listed on
http://en.opensuse.org/Czech_Packagers_Team/Packages_sorted_by_maintainer
speak up now ;-)
#173961 - openSUSE merchandising
Ideas for items to sell were collected on the mailinglist, but there's
no decision yet.
Currently rlihm is evaluation if we go coffepress or spreadshirt
#229213 - clarify bugzilla usage for packages in build service
(ETA: November); no news on this.
#238350 - unmaintained wikis (is, es, vi)
No news because Martin had no time.
#238355 - status of cn wiki (ETA: 09.24)
Will be renamed to zh-cn and zh-classical, otherwise ready.
Blocked AIs:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
#164757- SDB style guide / differences SDB, HOWTO (No time)
#164761 - built service trust/rating system (no time and resources)
#223290 - better wishlist handling using FATE (no time)
There was some discussion about this in the meeting, see the transcript
#267437 - community comitee, @opensuse.org mail addresses etc.
(Blocked by User Directory)
#293726 - Creation of Babel wiki (No time)
Things that were done:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#309085 - clarify handling of Action Items
Henne and I decided the following handling of AIs:
- Henne will mention AIs that are done in the meeting (status "RESOLVED"
and "VERIFIED")
- I will send the status mail _after_ the meeting so that it contains
the newest information
- I'll CLOSE AIs that are done and "announced" in the meeting so that
they won't appear on the AI list anymore
#300773 - Create online help button and infrastructure
This is done in KDE and Gnome, and help.o.o is also up and running.
(Translations of help.o.o is another AI ;-)
# 309920 - define criteria and list of community repos
The repo list is finished.
See http://en.opensuse.org/Repository_List_Proposal for details (not
sure if the page has the latest version)
If you think a repo is missing or a repo should not be included, please
report in this mailinglist (preferred) or open a bugreport.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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vermehren sich ja wie die Karnickel, muss ich mir auch mal einen
schreiben, um noch hip zu sein, oder was? [David Haller in suse-linux]
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Hi,
I'm involved both in Debian and Ubuntu development, and I'm often
frustrated by how little I know about the other distributions. After
discussing this in a blog post[1], I got the impression that I wasn't
alone in that case.
So I decided to do something about that, and to go ask the other
distributions' developers a few questions. If this works well (answers and
interest from other distros), I might do that again, or turn this into
something more formal (for example, a mailing list and/or a wiki would
seem well suited for that).
I'll publish the answers on my blog[2], and, if this proves to raise
interest, move them to a wiki.
[1] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=250
[2] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/
Here is a first set of questions. In your answers, please avoid codenames
(act as if the reader didn't know anything about your distribution).
Please try to write your answer as a short paragraph, answering all the
sub-questions from the questions at once.
Q1. Packages
How many "pieces of software" do you have in your distribution? Do you
distinguish between "source packages" and "binary packages"? (if yes,
give numbers for both). Are there subdivisions in the set of packages (by
kind of support, by "freeness")? Are all packages supported the same way,
or are there different levels of support? (If different levels, how many
packages are supported with each level?) Are some packages imported from
another distribution, or are most of your packages done from scratch by
your developers ?
Q2. Your developers
What's a "developer" in your distribution? How many developers do you
have? How many of these developers were active in 2007? Does a company
(which one?) employ a large number of developers? Do you have different
"classes" of developers, or does everybody have the same access right to
all your packages? How do you integrate new developers? How do you
handle contributors who don't have access rights to the archive? (is
there some kind of sponsoring system?)
Q3. Developers and packages ownership
What's the relationship between developers and packages? Does each
package have an assigned developer, or can everybody modify all packages
without stepping on anyone's toes? Are packages mostly maintained by
teams, or by developers working alone?
Other questions:
- Did I send that mail to the right mailing list?
- Which question should I have asked? What should I ask next?
- Do you think that this initiative is interesting?
- Do you think that this should move to a seperate mailing list? Would
you participate in such a mailing list?
- Can you suggest a project that could host such a mailing list without
annoying anyone? :)
- Any other suggestions?
Thank you for reading me so far -- and for answering my questions if you
did. ;) If you want me to ping you when I'll publish the answers, just
drop me a mail.
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Wiki Status:
- Better organisation of GNOME-related wiki content
(http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME)
- People can help on any task
(http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Tasks)
- Vote for this bug ->
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=325753
- People add themselves to http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME_Team
Patch upstreaming:
- OSC plugins to help manage patches (osc-plugins-gnome):
- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/maw/
- Rodrigo's branch:
http://www.gnome.org/~rodrigo/git/osc-plugins.git
- Michael's branch:
http://primates.ximian.com/~maw/git/osc-plugins
- We're going to force annotation on patches for a better
organisation
- http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Patches
**** AI: add info about these plugins to the wiki
Bug plan:
- Important bugs to be fixed at
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Bugs
- Use topics to fix bugs related to them, like
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Multiscreen
- Use voting system in Bugzilla to know what bugs openSUSE
community wants fixed
- Policy for when upstreaming bugs
GNOME:Community policy status:
- Clear policy for what should be in GNOME:Community
(http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Community_Inclusion_Policy)
- Need specific GNOME packaging guidelines, templates in the
build service
**** AI check if the build service can have GNOME templates or write a
OSC plugin that creates the basic spec with all the goodies
GNOME:STABLE merge status:
- Link packages from G:S to FACTORY
- What to do with GNOME:UNSTABLE?
Features requests and mini-projects
- We need a good way for getting feature requests instead of
bugzilla/fate. Use the wiki? idea.opensuse.org?
**** AI cyberorg, jpr, and captain_magnus volunteering
Q&A:
- Automated tests. Use LDTP? osc run-tests plugin?
- Use GNOME/ prefix for wiki pages, linking when needed
**** AI Write more HOWTOs about GNOME on the wiki
- More compiz/xgl integration for applications.
- Organise next meetings based on user/developer audience
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Hi,
* Events
- next on my schedule: Practical Linux, Giessen, .de, LWE .nl
* Communication
- IRC Project meeting tomorrow
- IRC GNOME meeting on Thursday
* Wiki
- new skin is out, some issues we are fixing it right now - top priority
- news feed is working again
- sv.o.o looks much better now
- next: zh wiki change
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Martin Lasarsch, Core Services
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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Hi,
Here is the next version of the guiding principles, the 2nd draft. Cornelius
fixed some bugs and changed other stuff from your feedback.
I guess it makes sense to start a new thread, the old one is at
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2007-05/msg00208.html
If this is new for you, i suggest to read also the old thread.
It's also available on the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles
Let's discuss the new version ...
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Hi,
find below a status update and backround info on what Robert and myself
currently working. And let's start discussion about what to offer in a
shop.openSUSE.org. I'd suggest to keep the sortiment at the beginning small.
I'd suggest to start with a 3-5 branded items which could be:
- a black t-shirt
- a cap
- a mug
- sticker (provided shop offer that)
- pin/button (provided shop offer that)
Status:
We plan to offer merchandise stuff to anybody interested in.
As we are not professional in providing such stuff and have budget constraints
we need a vendor doing that for us.
The vendor needs to offer shipment to EMEA + NA and the best scenario would be
world wide shipment. We found cafepress.com offering that, registered a
openSUSE shop there (http://www.cafepress.com/openSUSE - filled currently
with one sample product) and need to brand the shop and set up a first set of
products offered there.
We recently found spreadshirt.net offering a similar service but more feature
rich for a shopkeeper and offered in different languages but currently they
don't ship to NA. I asked them this week if they plan to ship to NA.
So, we wait for an aswer by spreadshirt. If they will offer NA shipment as
well we tend to start our shop there.
Best
Michael
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Hi
not much this week, busy, fast mail from the Hotel before OpenExpo starts ...
* Events
- OpenExpo in Zuerich starts in an hour :-)
- next on my schedule: Practical Linux, Giessen, .de, LWE .nl
* Communication
- user directory work is done by darix, some minor stuff need to be done afaik
- Robert made some "i support openSUSE" buttons, we will publish them soon
* Wiki
- since nobody really objected on the list, i will use zh and zh-classic for
the Chinese wikis. This means work for me, i hope i can do it next week.
- rss feed is not updating on the mainpage, working on it.
- new skin very soon
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The openSUSE mailing lists do not strike me as particularly open.
I have been contributing to free software projects for over ten years,
but none I can remember appears as unfriendly when someone not subscribed
to a list tries to post to that list.
Why do we have such a strict setup? As evidenced by hosts like
gcc.gnu.org, it is possibly to keep lists spam free without it.
*If* we need such a form of moderation, could this be human
moderators? Frankly, with unfriendly a reponse like this, I
usually think twice about contributing.
If human moderation does not work, how about a simple scheme where
one has to follow a URL provided in the auto-response to unlock his
previously sent message? w3c does this very nicely, for example.
Also, the message refers to a "nomail version of the list" but a
regular user certainly will have not idea whatsoever what that is
and how to subscribe to that version of the list.
</rant>
My recommendations are:
1. Abandon this level of strictness and instead use decent spam
and virus filtering.
2. If this does not work sufficiently well, employ human moderation
or a challenge/reponse schema.
3. Better describe what the "nomail version of the list" refers to.
Gerald
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Hi all,
we had a discussion with our General Manager Roger Levy about the Guiding
Principles. He appreciates the Guiding Principles very much and fully
supports them. One suggestion he made was to emphasize as a task the overall
success of Linux. I second this.
What about adding in the "We want.." section this sentence:
..to foster the success of Linux everywhere
Status on the guiding principles:
- we stuff the first Board currently
- when that's done we'll launch the Guiding Priniciples and fill the Board
with life
- we're talking about weeks not months ;-)
Best
Michael
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