Hi everybody,
as you all know, we have the openSUSE Members, a group of contributors through
their sustained and substantial contributors that are eligible to participate
in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks. We have now about 600
of them, but as you can see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of
them voted.
This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in
elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is
somewhere in middle. This is something we need to know when we take project
wide decisions in order to correctly assess the communities interest in the
topic.
This is a recurring topic that has been discussed at the openSUSE Board Face to
Face meeting last year, oSC 15, and on this list several times over the last
few years. Taking these into consideration, we (in the board) think it would
be a good idea to implement something to help with ensuring our Membership list
accurately reflects our current Membership. I have put together a tool which
attempts to detect an openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS,
bugzilla, maybe more. This tool will remember when we last saw openSUSE Member
on any of those channels and if they doesn't show for 6 months, we will send
them an e-mail asking whether they still wants to be a member. A response to
that email will automatically count as activity and preserve the Members
status. If there is no response within 30 days of the notification, the Member
will be 'retired' and be considered a 'Member emeritus'. If someone is retired
incorrectly, or a 'Member emeritus' returns to the Project and wants a
restoration of their voting privilege, they will be unretired without question
by the Membership Committee.
There are few implementation details to be worked out, so we don't expect this
to go live overnight but consider this a "statement of intent" and an
explanation of how we expect things to work before we start testing the
process.
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To answer some of the obvious questions:
Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway after measuring and evaluating
their activity?
A: No, that would be too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that
we cannot measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator
that those people are no longer interested, but they might be just working
on project aspects we cannot measure. openSUSE Members are members until
THEY no longer want to be. We believe this system preserves that principle.
Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of
not being interested?
A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (6 months) and if we monitor even
mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere. We intend to word the
'ping' email in a way that is not judgemental, but just makes it clear that
we have failed to automatically find evidence of contribution so want to make
sure they are still interested in remaining a Member.
Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member?
A: Not really. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever without
question. Now it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big
change, just a little difference.
Q: What if mail with warning gets lost?
A: If you lose your membership by accident by losing an e-mail, you can still
contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated
immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix
your e-mail in connect.opensuse.org in that case ;-)
Q: Will retired members retain their email & IRC cloak perks?
A: No, the intention is that retired members will no longer be eligible for
@opensuse.org email addresses and Freenode IRC cloaks.
[1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/49480/opensuse-board-el…
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Hi all,
We are nearing the release of openSUSE Leap 42.2 and we encourage
everyone reading this email to help promote our newest release, however
you want to do that. To help promote it, our marketing team has been
brainstorming a few ways to promote it. One of those is to post messages
on social media. The social media plan is updated in English at
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_launch_plan
Please consider translating it and posting it to your local or region
openSUSE pages/profiles as well as to your own personal pages. We also
encourage you to come up with your own tweets, posts, etc and just tag
#openSUSE.
Additionally, if you are interested in translations contributions, we
would certainly welcome contribution to the project. With
https://l10n.opensuse.org/, you can easily help translate release notes
for 42.2 -
https://l10n.opensuse.org/projects/release-notes-opensuse/leap_42_2/. I
want to thank our contributors who have already translated the release
notes. Also, please consider translating our landing page -
https://l10n.opensuse.org/projects/landing-page/master/
There are more than 50 languages offered to translate and the dashboard
gives an easy overview of what languages have been translated and those
that could use translations.
v/r
Doug
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Just wondering if anyone on the SUSE side of things knows if there's a
known issue with builds on SUSE Studio.
It looks like it doesn't affect all builds - but largely affects SLE
builds from what I can see. I've got some older openSUSE projects that
do seem to build, but SLES12SP1, SLES12, and SLES11 don't seem to be
working for me.
Jim
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Greek translation is done
2016-10-26 12:01 GMT+03:00 Nick Mantas <nmantas.archery(a)gmail.com>:
> Greek Translation is done
>
> 2016-10-25 22:48 GMT+03:00 Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink <knurpht(a)opensuse.org>:
>>
>> Dutch translation done. Let's get it on.
>>
>> Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht
>>
>> openSUSE Board Member
>> openSUSE Forums Team
>>
>> Op dinsdag 25 oktober 2016 11:37:16 CEST schreef Douglas DeMaio
>> <ddemaio(a)suse.de> :
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We are nearing the release of openSUSE Leap 42.2 and we encourage
>> > everyone reading this email to help promote our newest release, however
>> > you want to do that. To help promote it, our marketing team has been
>> > brainstorming a few ways to promote it. One of those is to post messages
>> > on social media. The social media plan is updated in English at
>> > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_launch_plan
>> >
>> > Please consider translating it and posting it to your local or region
>> > openSUSE pages/profiles as well as to your own personal pages. We also
>> > encourage you to come up with your own tweets, posts, etc and just tag
>> > #openSUSE.
>> >
>> > Additionally, if you are interested in translations contributions, we
>> > would certainly welcome contribution to the project. With
>> > https://l10n.opensuse.org/, you can easily help translate release notes
>> > for 42.2 -
>> > https://l10n.opensuse.org/projects/release-notes-opensuse/leap_42_2/. I
>> > want to thank our contributors who have already translated the release
>> > notes. Also, please consider translating our landing page -
>> > https://l10n.opensuse.org/projects/landing-page/master/
>> >
>> > There are more than 50 languages offered to translate and the dashboard
>> > gives an easy overview of what languages have been translated and those
>> > that could use translations.
>> >
>> > v/r
>> >
>> > Doug
>>
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>>
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>> openSUSE Forums Team
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Hi all,
If you are running 42.2 RC1 and would like to help us get some
screenshots for the wiki page, we would really appreciate it.
There are already a few 42.2 screenshots on
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:42.2/Screenshots
v/r
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Hi all,
Please consider adding any new features that will be included to
openSUSE Leap 42.2 to the features page for the 42.2 Portal found at
https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Features_42.2
Once complete, the list will replace the
https://en.opensuse.org/Features and 42.1 will be archived.
v/r
Doug
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Hi all,
I did not find a distinct kiwi mailing list in https://lists.opensuse.org/ so
I try my luck here:
I have run successfully the prepare step for a kiwi build, and now want to
create the image:
T520:~/image # kiwi -c /root/image/result/root -d /root/image/result/iso
Oct-25 12:04:00 <1> : Description provides no MD5 hash, check
Oct-25 12:04:00 <1> : Reading image description [Create]...
Oct-25 12:04:00 <3> : Requested image creation with filesystem "clicfs"; but
tool to create the file system could not be found.
failed
>From what I could find, the error should come up if no mkisofs or genisofs is
installed
T520:~/image # zypper se mkisofs genisoimage
Repository-Daten werden geladen...
Installierte Pakete werden gelesen...
S | Name | Zusammenfassung
| Typ
--+-------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
i | genisoimage | A Program for Creating CDs in Linux
| mkisofs | A program to generate an ISO-9660/JOLIET/HFS/UDF hybrid
filesystem | package
-> genisoimage is installed. The attempt to install mkisoimage causes a
conflict:
Problem: cdrkit-cdrtools-compat-1.1.11-21.4.x86_64 steht in Konflikt mit
mkisofs, das von mkisofs-3.01-1.5.x86_64 zur Verfügung gestellt wurde
Lösung 1: Folgende Aktionen werden ausgeführt:
Deinstallation von cdrkit-cdrtools-compat-1.1.11-21.4.x86_64
Deinstallation von kiwi-desc-isoboot-7.03.68-8.1.x86_64
Lösung 2: mkisofs-3.01-1.5.x86_64 nicht installieren
Any idea how to cotinue or work around the issue?
Thanks
Axel
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I'm forwarding the call for Cfp for the distribution devroom.
I'm looking forward to see nice talks about openSUSE ;-)
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Subject: [FOSDEM] [CFP] FOSDEM 2017 - Distributions Devroom
Date: lundi, 24 octobre 2016, 10.31:45 h CEST
FOSDEM 2017 - Distributions Devroom Call for Participation
The Distributions devroom will take place 4 February, 2017 at FOSDEM, in
room K.4.601 at Université Libre de Bruxelles, in Brussels, Belgium.
Distributions are more than just hosted collections of software from various
upstreams. Each distribution is responsible for problem-solving in building,
testing, and releasing software as well as managing the lifecycle of each
application in the collection. Additionally, distributions do very important
work in ensuring that various versions of upstream software work well together
and can co-exist. Distribution are also, often responsible, for "de-vendoring"
upstream software so that security fixes can be applied more quickly.
We welcome submissions targeted at contributors interested in issues unique to
distributions, especially in the following topics:
- Managing Build/Test/Release processes around shared ideas and resources
- Lifecycle management, especially in the areas of sandboxing,
containerization, vendoring, and bundling
- Distribution construction tools and infrastructure development and
implementation (building, signing, testing, distribution, etc.)
- Cross-distribution collaboration on common issues, eg: content distribution,
infrastructure, and documentation
- Working with vendors and including them in the community
- Building trust and code relationships with the upstream components of a
distribution and between distributions
- The future of distributions, emerging trends and evolving user demands from
the idea of a platform
- The place of distributions in today's world (including concepts of
containerization, IoT, etc.)
- Onboarding new users and mentorship, facilitating technical growth within
the
contributor base
- Solving traditional problems like package management, and content management
(eg. rpm/dpkg/ostree/coreos )
- Integration technologies like installers, deployment facilitation ( eg.
cloud
contextualisation )
- Principals of Rolling Releases, Long Term Supported Releases (LTS), Feature
gated releases, and calendar releases
Ideal submissions are actionable and opinionated. Submissions may be in the
form of 25 or 50 minute talks, panel sessions, round-table discussions, or
Birds of a Feather (BoF) sessions.
Dates
------
Submission Deadline: 25-Nov-2016
Acceptance Notification: 5-Dec-2016
Final Schedule Posted: 11-Dec-2016
How to submit
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Visit https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM17
1.) If you do not have an account, create one here
2.) Click 'Create Event'
3.) Enter your presentation details
4.) Be sure to select the Distributions Devroom track!
5.) Submit
What to include
---------------
- The title of your submission
- A 1-paragraph Abstract
- A longer description including the benefit of your talk to your target
audience, including a definition of your target audience.
- Approximate length / type of submission (talk, BoF, ...)
- Links to related websites/blogs/talk material (if any)
Administrative Notes
----------------
We will be live-streaming and recording the Distributions Devroom. Presenting
at FOSDEM implies permission to record your session and distribute the
recording afterwards. All videos will be made available under the standard
FOSDEM content license (CC-BY).
If you have any questions, feel free to contact the devroom organizers:
distributions-devroom(a)lists.fosdem.org
(https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/distributions-devroom)
Cheers!
Brian Exelbierd (twitter: @bexelbie) and Brian Stinson (twitter: @bstinsonmhk)
for and on behalf of The Distributions Devroom Program Committee
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I miss you so much :-)
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