Hi everybody,
as you all know, we have the openSUSE Members, a group of contributors through
their sustained and substantial contributors that are eligible to participate
in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks. We have now about 600
of them, but as you can see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of
them voted.
This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in
elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is
somewhere in middle. This is something we need to know when we take project
wide decisions in order to correctly assess the communities interest in the
topic.
This is a recurring topic that has been discussed at the openSUSE Board Face to
Face meeting last year, oSC 15, and on this list several times over the last
few years. Taking these into consideration, we (in the board) think it would
be a good idea to implement something to help with ensuring our Membership list
accurately reflects our current Membership. I have put together a tool which
attempts to detect an openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS,
bugzilla, maybe more. This tool will remember when we last saw openSUSE Member
on any of those channels and if they doesn't show for 6 months, we will send
them an e-mail asking whether they still wants to be a member. A response to
that email will automatically count as activity and preserve the Members
status. If there is no response within 30 days of the notification, the Member
will be 'retired' and be considered a 'Member emeritus'. If someone is retired
incorrectly, or a 'Member emeritus' returns to the Project and wants a
restoration of their voting privilege, they will be unretired without question
by the Membership Committee.
There are few implementation details to be worked out, so we don't expect this
to go live overnight but consider this a "statement of intent" and an
explanation of how we expect things to work before we start testing the
process.
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To answer some of the obvious questions:
Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway after measuring and evaluating
their activity?
A: No, that would be too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that
we cannot measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator
that those people are no longer interested, but they might be just working
on project aspects we cannot measure. openSUSE Members are members until
THEY no longer want to be. We believe this system preserves that principle.
Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of
not being interested?
A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (6 months) and if we monitor even
mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere. We intend to word the
'ping' email in a way that is not judgemental, but just makes it clear that
we have failed to automatically find evidence of contribution so want to make
sure they are still interested in remaining a Member.
Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member?
A: Not really. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever without
question. Now it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big
change, just a little difference.
Q: What if mail with warning gets lost?
A: If you lose your membership by accident by losing an e-mail, you can still
contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated
immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix
your e-mail in connect.opensuse.org in that case ;-)
Q: Will retired members retain their email & IRC cloak perks?
A: No, the intention is that retired members will no longer be eligible for
@opensuse.org email addresses and Freenode IRC cloaks.
[1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/49480/opensuse-board-el…
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Dear project members,
background of the question is a discussion I recently had with R. Stallman.
According to his point of view, openSUSE is not free software, as unfree
components are installed.
Lets take a look at the definition of freedom [1]. Free software allows you to
- execute a program
- distribute it
- analyze and modify the source code
- re-distribute the modified program.
This matches for the most part the license for openSUSE, see /etc/YaST2/
licenses/base/license.txt :
...
With the exception of certain files containing the “openSUSE”
trademark discussed below, the license terms for the components
permit you to copy and redistribute the component. With the
potential exception of certain firmware files, the license terms
for the components permit you to copy, modify, and redistribute the
component, in both source code and binary code forms. This agreement
does not limit your rights under, or grant you rights that supersede,
the license terms of any particular component.
....
Except for the part ' With the potential exception of certain firmware files' ,
this gives us all required freedoms.
Firmware is usually tricky....so looking at this I found some Firmware files
with the License string 'openSUSE-Firmware', and [2] on the net (but not sure
how up-to-date this page is).
Does anyone know the rationale behind openSUSE-Firmware license?
openSUSE comes by default with the OSS and non-OSS repository. Richards remark
here was that files from non-OSS are installed without making the user aware
about the nature of these unfree components.
This is true, although the permission is asked for every of the two installed
programs (AdobeICCProfiles and a gstreamer-fluendo-mp3). Most users do probably
not realize the point of proprietary software here. And the benefit of AdobeICC
is limited if you are not using color management.
I see the bias between free software and useability: If you desperately need
some proprietary firmware to get your hardware up and running, you will see the
freedom aspect only in the second row.
As a distribution, we should make sure that a wide range of hardware is
supported.
On the other hand, and as openSUSE explains free software in its flyers
(without stating THAT oS is free), we should try to install only free
components in the first glance.
But we could leave the user the choice (during installation) to include non-
free componentes / non-oss repo. By this we can make sure that exotic software
as well gets supported, if we separate the non-free Firmware into the non-OSS
Repo.
Does that sound reasonable?
Discussion please!
Axel
[1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[2] https://de.opensuse.org/Firmware
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Hello,
I was nominated to run for the board, and finally decided to run ;-)
I use openSUSE since years (actually it was still „SuSE Linux“ with
lowercase „u“ back then), started annoying people in bugzilla, err,
started betatesting in the 9.2 beta phase. Since then, I reported more
than 1200 bugs. Later, OBS ruined my bugzilla statistics by introducing
the option to send a SR ;-)
More recently, I helped in fighting the wiki spam, which also means I‘m
admin on the english wiki since then, and had some fun[tm] with the
current server admin. I‘m one of the founding members of the Heroes team
(thanks to Sarah for getting the right people together at oSC16!)
Currently, I work on the base server setup (using salt) for our new
infrastructure and updating the wiki to an up-to-date MediaWiki version.
You can find me on several mailinglists and on IRC, and of course I still
scare people in bugzilla. I‘m also a regular visitor and speaker at the
openSUSE Conference, and visit other conferences as time permits.
Besides openSUSE, I work on AppArmor and PostfixAdmin – both upstream and
as packager. Also, I‘m admin on several webservers (all running with
Leap).
My day job has nothing to do with computers. I produce something you can
drink that is named after a software we ship in openSUSE ;-)
Oh, and I collect funny quotes from various mailinglists, IRC, bugzilla
etc. that then end up as random signatures under my mails, so be careful
what you write ;-)
Issues I can see
- You probably know „DRY“, so – see the next paragraph
Aims/Goals
- speed! We have too many issues hanging around for too long, and that‘s
annoying for people who suffer from them. Especially small things
should (and can!) be solved quickly.
- clear responsibilities! Part of the speed problem is that it‘s
sometimes hard to find out who can fix something, and hunting down
people takes time.
- don‘t talk (too much) – do it! Sometimes we need to discuss things,
but often just doing them works best. Obviously I can‘t do everything
alone, so I want to encourage people to help whereever they can.
„I don‘t have knownledge how to do this“ doesn‘t count – for example,
updating a wiki page or reporting a bug isn‘t hard ;-) and typically
people really start to report bugs once they understand that this
gives them the right to complain (quoting Pascal Bleser: „Always file a
bug: if it‘s not in Bugzilla, then it‘s not there“)
- longer days! Maybe I should move to Bajor – I heard they have 26 hour
days there, which would solve some of my time problems ;-))
Why you should vote for me?
- I tend to kick people to ensure they work faster and fix things. This
is your chance to kick me!
- Help me to find out if I can get the thing in the (non-random)
signature of this mail done!
Things I‘ll never do:
- use a stable release on my main computer – Tumbleweed is just too
good ;-)
- open a bugreport if fxing it and sending a SR is faster
- be too serious – hey, our motto is „Have a lot of fun...“ ;-)
- drink beer ;-) (sorry, not even openSUSE beer)
Contact Details:
Mail: see sender address for one of my mail addresses ;-) - or use my
IRC nick @opensuse.org
IRC: cboltz
http://blog.cboltz.de (some more posts would be nice, but then you
wouldn‘t believe the „don‘t talk – do it!“ ;-)
https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/profile/cboltzhttps://en.opensuse.org/user:cboltz
I wish all candidates good luck, hope that we‘ll see lots of voters –
and wish everybody all the best for 2017!
Regards,
Christian Boltz
PS: Non-random signature – and while I have serious doubts about the
second paragraph, I‘m very sure about the first ;-)
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Hi
I would like to let you know my intention to stand for a position in
the openSUSE Board
openSUSE Membership Account/username: aaronluna75
IRC: lubaut
user page: https://en.opensuse.org/User:Aaronluna75
Attached you will find my introduction and the manifesto according the
published rules.
By the way, could you add my blog to openSUSE Planet?
http://linuxforhuman-beings.blogspot.mx/
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards
Aaron Luna
Hi everybody!
In the end I decided to run for re-election. It is almost last chance to do so
and although we have already two great candidates, I feel it is not an election
if you don't have a choice.
My name is Michal Hrusecky, I'm 32 years old, I used to be quite active in the
paste, nowadays I'm quite busy with my personal life, so I'm less involved that
I would like. But still try to do some promoting and trying to finish some
projects. What you probably remember me the most recently is my bot that
threatened every eligible voter that they will be kicked out - part of my goal
to clean-up inactive members. This is currently on hold till the end of
election, but don't worry, I fixed the bot and it will get run even if I don't
get elected :-) But by not electing me, you probably will make it harder for me
to come with other ideas like this and implement them in the future :-)
I can't promise you any big actions like building a wall as Board doesn't have
that kind of power and I think we already have too many of them everywhere, but
I can promise to represent you the best I can and I hope I haven't disappointed
you in my last term.
I'll write some proper manifesto in following days and reply here. As
mentioned, this is last minute (well hours) decision, so I'll polish manifesto
in following days.
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>
> Thanks for the hint!
> I fixed it.
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Dezember 2016 um 16:35 Uhr
> Von: "Aaron Burgemeister" <dajoker(a)gmail.com>
> An: "Sarah Julia Kriesch" <ada.lovelace(a)gmx.de>
> Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Running for the openSUSE Board
>
> Sarah,
> I tried the links on your blog to LinkedIn/Facebook and they are not working. Copying/pasting them but clicking does not, resulting in the following error: "
>
> Ups, hier hat sich ein
> Fehler eingeschlichen...
>
> Fehler-Code: 403
>
> Just FYI:
> Aaron Burgemeister
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 8:31 AM Sarah Julia Kriesch <ada.lovelace@gmx.de[mailto:ada.lovelace@gmx.de]> wrote:Dear openSUSE Members,
>
> I am nominated as a candidate for the openSUSE Board and want to run for a position.
>
> My name is Sarah Julia Kriesch (nick name AdaLovelace). I am 29 years old, an educated Computer Science Expert for System Integration and currently a student in Computer Science at the TH Nürnberg. I recently changed from working life to student life. I have got 4 years of work experience as a Linux System Administrator and (Managing) Systems Engineer. I am a Working Student (Admin/ DevOps) at ownCloud. Since this month I am also a Student Officer for Computer Science at our university.
>
> You can find more about me on my blog (https://sarah-julia-kriesch.eu/2016/12/28/running-for-the-opensuse-board/[h…).
>
> Most of you know me from openSUSE Conferences. I am an active Advocate and a founder of the Heroes Team. Additionally I am the Translation Coordinator. Some of you know me from different mailing lists.
>
> I can complete the openSUSE Board with my skills in Infrastructure, Coordination and BPM.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sarah
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Dear openSUSE Members,
I am nominated as a candidate for the openSUSE Board and want to run for a position.
My name is Sarah Julia Kriesch (nick name AdaLovelace). I am 29 years old, an educated Computer Science Expert for System Integration and currently a student in Computer Science at the TH Nürnberg. I recently changed from working life to student life. I have got 4 years of work experience as a Linux System Administrator and (Managing) Systems Engineer. I am a Working Student (Admin/ DevOps) at ownCloud. Since this month I am also a Student Officer for Computer Science at our university.
You can find more about me on my blog (https://sarah-julia-kriesch.eu/2016/12/28/running-for-the-opensuse-board/).
Most of you know me from openSUSE Conferences. I am an active Advocate and a founder of the Heroes Team. Additionally I am the Translation Coordinator. Some of you know me from different mailing lists.
I can complete the openSUSE Board with my skills in Infrastructure, Coordination and BPM.
Best regards,
Sarah
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I just wonder why our Board didn't share any update about what's going on
since 4 months.
There's several topics I guess which should have move a bit no ?
Like Helios voting system, or we will still use connect.
Before the elections phase 1, a personnal, or common reviews of our community
state would be really appreciate.
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Subject: [opensuse-project] Board Meeting Minutes - 11 Aug 1500 CEST
Date: vendredi, 12 août 2016, 17.26:44 h CET
From: Richard Brown <RBrownCCB(a)opensuse.org>
To: opensuse-project <opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org>
# Board Meeting Minutes 11 Aug 1500 CEST
## Present
- Richard Brown - Chair
- Kostas Koudaras
- Tomas Chvatal
- Michal Hrušecký
- Andrew Wafaa (Treasurer)
## Absent
- Bryan Lunduke - Rescheduled meeting incompatible with Timezone difference
- Gertjan Lettink - Technical Difficulties
## General Items
This meeting was carried out on Thursday 11th as too many people were
absent on Monday 9th Aug
### openSUSE Asia
The Board has been invited to give a keynote at openSUSE Asia - Bryan
Lunduke will be attending and providing the keynote
The Board is aware the CFP for openSUSE Asia has been well responded
to, but not from Europe - CALL FOR HELP - If you are from Europe and
interested in doing a talk at openSUSE, please submit your talk now!
### Travel Support Programme
Andrew will be on vacation during the busiest period for openSUSE Asia
TSP applications. Michal & Gertjan are considering whether they can
help cover this period.
### Bugzilla
The Board have recieved a complaint regarding a bugzilla contributor
using very abrasive language and attacking other contributors in
comments.
AI: Michal to write a warning email.
### Brasil
Aslan C. de M. Ramos (aslan.ramos(a)suse.com) has stepped up to encorage
and boost the openSUSE community in Brasil. If you're in Brasil and
interested in representing openSUSE at local events, please get in
touch with Aslan.
### LinuxCon NA & Europe
SUSE are Platinium sponsors of both events, and due to the community
nature of LinuxCon want to make sure openSUSE is a big part of their
presence there. For LinuxCon NA in a few weeks openSUSE will have a
significant portion of the booth and several demo machines showing
openSUSE Tumbleweed & Leap. For LinuxCon Europe plans are still being
discussed but a similar strong openSUSE presence is expected.
Anyone who happens to be going to either event and is willing to help
out please contact rbrown(a)suse.com
### GSoC Mentors
Google are sponsoring a summit for GSoC mentors. There is budget to
send two people, but there was 3 candidates. The GSoC mentors all
agreed on the name of one of the mentors who would go, but asked the
Board to conduct a lottery to decide on the second person.
We're happy to be able to say that Hernan Schmidt and Christopher
Bruckmayer will be going to the GSoC Mentors summit to represent
openSUSE.
Thanks to them and all of our GSoC mentors for making this a great
summer for our GSoCers.
### Trademark Request
The Board have heard from the members with the outstanding Trademark
request. Local legal requirements complicate our proposed solution.
Negotiations ongoing.
### Membership Tidyup
No action as Michal is busy moving house
### Infrastructure
The Board is really pleased to see the new "openSUSE Heroes" team
stepping up to help improve the situation with our infrastructure.
https://news.opensuse.org/2016/07/25/introducing-opensuse-heroes/
AI: Board to monitor the situation - Richard to continuing having
regular meetings with Roland and Lars to drive progress in this area.
### SLE Packages
The Board has spotted a number of cases in Leap 42.2 Alpha 2 where
packages inherited from SLE are newer than the ones available in
Tumbleweed or Devel Repos.
Reminders seem to have helped, but problem still ongoing.
AI: Richard to send both general and directed reminders internally at
SUSE to remind them of the SUSE company policy to contribute to
Tumbleweed before/in parralel/in sync with their work on SLE.
## Action Item Review
Due to the large number of action items, the progress of these will be
split into 3 sections
- DONE; This task is complete and will not be discussed in future meetings
- WIP; This task is in progress, and will be discussed in future meetings
- TODO; This task is still waiting for some progress by the Board
### DONE
### WIP
Board + Ludwig to figure out what to do with all the Volunteers for
the "openSUSE Release Team"
*Richard & Ludwig to discuss*
Board is discussing some ideas with our various Desktop Teams
Michal is retiring connect.opensuse.org and doing the Membership
tooling and maintenance.
Tomas has talked with Craig about OBS team preparing the code for
maintaner tidyup
*Feature in OBS teams TODO*
Bryan has started arrange informal exploratory discussions with
ownCloud, nextCloud and Kolab about closer relationships. Had some
good chats at oSC 16.
*Bryan to keep driving*
Kostas is reaching out to our few bloggers on lizards.opensuse.org
about moving to other platforms.
Richard has been talking to Douglas about the possibility of moving
news.opensuse.org to a new blogging platform. Richard's personal blog
is running a potential candidate (Jekyll with custom openSUSE theme.
http://rootco.de
### TODO
Board to request release-team(a)opensuse.org list for the Release Team
Board to investigate alternatives for voting & membership management
_To be done after the Membership Tidy Up_
Tomas will investigate Helios voting system for openSUSE
Richard to review/tune up filtering in current system so trademark
enquiries don't get lost
Tomas will talk with Andrew and Marketing teams about possible Kickstarter
Board intends to create a skeleton of the getting started guides to
help people get started with Using, Joining, and Partnering with
openSUSE
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Hi all,
The new year is quickly approaching, which means it is time to prepare
for this year's openSUSE Conference. The planning for the conference
will begin in January, and we want to assemble teams to help build upon
the success of last year's conference. If you are interesting in taking
part in the planning of oSC17, please send me an email.
Registration for the conference is open at https://events.opensuse.org/,
so be sure to register over the holidays if you have time. Also, don't
forget to answer the question about your T-Shirts Size.
The Call for Papers is also open, so if you get some crazy ideas over
the next 107 days, please be sure to submit it at
https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/new (Must
be Signed In).
Further information will follow in the months ahead, so enjoy the
holiday season.
v/r
Doug
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Hi -project@
I've started receiving notifications about my FOSDEM talk submissions
and hopefully so are all of you who also proposed talks for the Call
for Papers that were discussed here
As FOSDEM is such a big event for openSUSE I think we should do our
best to make as much noise about what we're talking about before the
event, and then do our best to support each other and attend talks by
openSUSE speakers during the event
And so, please reply to this thread with whatever details you have
about your accepted talks at FOSDEM
In my case, it looks like I have two talks accepted
Track: Main Track
Title: Resurrecting dinosaurs, what can possibly go wrong?
Subtitle: How Containerised Applications could eat our users.
Time/Location: To be confirmed
Track: Distro DevRoom
Title: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Tumbleweed
Subtitle: Why everyone should be running a rolling release
Time/Location: Saturday 10:30AM Room K.4.601
Best Regards,
Richard
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