Hi all,
April 16-17 in Antwerp, Belgium, the Linux Open Administration Days will
take place. This free event offers a chance for LPI certification as
well as meeting and talking to linux sysadmins. There is a call for
presentations here: http://www.loadays.org/content/call-presentations
If you want to go and give a talk there about openSUSE tech - that's be
awesome. If you can't afford to go there due to travel or hotel costs,
let me know, we might be able to work something out ;-)
cheers,
Jos
Let's pay attention to other daily people comments from
https://features.opensuse.org/312946
> "It is like Gnome Desktop Environment developers are now working
against Linux...
> Pure Gnome3 is just a BIG & major regress on Linux desktop, it makes
Linux desktop productivity more difficult and bring useless features.
Even the bars are frozen, you cannot interact, neither visual customize
or configure anything.
> The only Linux Mint & Mate bring some hope... I have installed open
SUSE just because Linux Mint 12 have some installation bugs on HP d530
desktop, if no Mate repo I will leave open SUSE."
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Apologies for the continued abuse of a much abused acronym, but a recent
long-winded debate on opensuse-factory made me think that perhaps the
opensuse project could do with a steering committee? I have not
thought much about it, I would appreciate any and all opinions.
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Hello everyone!
Unfortunately, nobody has been taking care of the #opensuse-es IRC channel in
Freenode for a long time. Ask ChanServ for info ;-)
I propose giving the appropriate OP rights to an openSUSE channel maintainer
in general (perhaps darix?) so that this kind of situation doesn't happen
again, plus three or four long time contributors/active #opensuse-es users,
such as:
karlggest (long time contributor, he isn't always online, already forum
moderator)
SkavenXXI (long time contributor, always online in #opensuse-es)
davmont (long time contributor, already forum moderator)
javier (me, long time contributor, always online in #opensuse-es)
Greetings,
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Hi openSUSE people,
I'm not an openSUSE member (I don't do software development any more) but
would like to get fixed a serious security flaw: there is no way to check
the validity of a repository / build signing key.
[You are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong - I'd love to know how to check
this]
I would suggest that, as a minimum, signing / build keys for main repos
associated with openSUSE are signed by a main openSUSE key after (in some
fashion) the requester's identity is verified. We can then (individually)
decide to trust that signing process (and hence the signatures) or not.
There would have to be a clear statement of both the identity verification
process and also the full extent of the assurance this signature gives. I
would suggest there should also be some kind of quality threshold (e.g. bug
fix statistics) as well as a method to revoke the key / signature.
Or, does one of the openSUSE security experts have a better simple
suggestion?
What would I need to do to effect this change?
Any advice or comment is very welcome,
Yours
David Hodgson
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>>>> 2. When I switch to gnome2-like environment, I am getting very angry.
>>>> How can SUSE become as stupid as Ubuntu? The gnome2-like
environment is
>>>> almost the same as Ubuntu..... The menu, the task bar color and so
on.
>>>> Why can't SUSE keep its own uniques? The SUSE menu in 10.0 till
11.4 is
>>>> quit nice and creative. Why did this 12.1 switch to stupid Ubuntu
like
>>>> style?
>>> This has nothing to do with Ubuntu: the default look and feel of the
>>> fallback mode has been created so that it is close to GNOME Shell.
>>>
>>> We discussed if, for openSUSE, we wanted to keep that upstream
decision,
>>> or choose to offer something closer to what we had before. And because
>>> we want to encourage people to use GNOME Shell, we decided to keep
>>> things this way.
>
>
Why do you encourage people to use GNOME SHELL? Is it more convenient or
more beautiful to use it? At present, I found no reasons to switch to
it. It is far behind GNOME2.X. As a Linux user and a professional design
purpose user, I care more about the STABILITY and friendly interface. To
me, the GNOME SHELL is much more suitable for tablet and entertainment,
but not for ordinary daily work such as: office or computational work.
>>
>>
>
>
>>>> 3. What's worse. The workspace switcher in gnome2-like environment is
>>>> the same as 10.0 version: when we use "only show current
workspace", it
>>>> can only show ONE workspace, and others are all gone......
>>> I just started the livecd to check, and things are fine here. Can you
>>> open the preferences of the workspace switcher, and tell us if you see
>>> this because there's only one workspace, or because the "only show
>>> current workspace" setting is set? Is this on a brand new install, on
>>> first login?
>
>
I update 12.1 to the latest version by command: zypper update after
installation. And the problem is always there.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
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Sorry, my Mail was just sent to jdd, damn k9 Mail again....
Kim Leyendecker <leyendecker(a)opensuse.org> schrieb:
>
>
>
>
>jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org> wrote:
>
>>Le 30/12/2011 23:52, Greg Freemyer a écrit :
>>
>>> On the technical side, vetos definitely exist, and they exist now.
>>>
>>> The Release Manager (Coolo) ultimately decides what goes into
>>> openSUSE. ie. The Release Manager has veto power.
>>
>>I challenge this. yet Coolo have some power on paid suse people.
>>
>>>
>>> eg. If I decided I wanted to submit a patch to change grub to grub2,
>>> it has to be accepted. And in the current setup that basically
>means
>>> Coolo has to accept it. (or veto it).
>>
>>if you where the only maintainer of grub and decided to stop it, I
>>don't see what coolo could do.
>>
>>>
>>> I have no issue with that reality. Coolo does a great job from what
>>I
>>> can tell. But to claim he doesn't have that power is to be blind to
>>> reality.
>>
>>your overestimate his power. I'm pretty sure one of his higher quality
>
>>is diplomacy :-). I'm very admirative about him :-! Of course His
>>advice have weight.
>>
>
>Yes, he's a great diplomate, but a sc is also important when there
>occurs a "fight" between progressives and clnservatives. These
>discussions are often very offending and sometimes more subjective then
>anything other. Here a sc has to intervene and negioate as a fair
>Balance between both parties
>
>I guess that's the reason why per (and also i) wants to have such a sc.
>
>
>
>>> I see this a maturing of the community. For now I am very happy
>with
>>> the way things work, but what if one of the other sponsors wanted to
>>> have more say so at the steering committee level. How would that be
>>> addressed?
>>
>>hiring developpers. Even users can do that if they are enough
>>
>>The release manager have power when he have a real choice, yes, and
>>it's important. But real choice is not that often in the opensource
>>world
>>
>>jdd
>>
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Howdy all,
Since major TV stations are broadcasting there crappy annual reviews, we
might should also release one.
2011 was a great year for openSUSE! Two totally awesome releases, a new
owner, osc11, 20 years of Linux, first distro to ship LibreOffice many
new ambassadors and contributors etc.
*How it should look like?*
I actually think about an article on news.o.o, I don´t know how far our
schedule is rebuild, since ietherpad crashed down and lost all data.
So, the annual review might would have the whole road.
*What the community have to do?*
Well, speak up and give your comments. The more voices, the better! The
best way is to create a wiki page where everyone can put down her or his
opinion of the last year from an openSUSE point of view.
*When should it be published?*
I would suggest to do it still in 2011. So, we have to do it quickly.
happy holidays,
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Greg Freemyer wrote:
> openSUSE currently has a 3-tier system officially;
>
> Board
> members
> users
>
> Unofficially it has:
>
> project management (Coolo, etc.)
> developers
> other contributors
> non-contributors
>
> The board seems to stay out of technical decisions, and the members
> only vote on the very occasional item. (ie. The members voted on the
> overall strategy recently.)
I have recently begun to think this is was only a clever ploy to occupy
the project members with something largely inconsequential. Those of
us who occupied ourselves with debating/proposing/refining the strategy
neglected to consider the one key thing - to implement a strategy one
needs ownership and leadership, something we do not have.
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