Re: [opensuse-project] Re: RFC - opensuse steering committee ? - openSUSE Project

30 Dec 2011

Sorry, my Mail was just sent to jdd, damn k9 Mail again....

Kim Leyendecker &lt;leyendecker(a)opensuse.org&gt; schrieb:

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jdd &lt;jdd(a)dodin.org&gt; wrote:

 Le 30/12/2011 23:52, Greg Freemyer a écrit :

  On the technical side, vetos definitely exist,
and they exist now.

 The Release Manager (Coolo) ultimately decides what goes into
 openSUSE.  ie. The Release Manager has veto power. 
I challenge this. yet Coolo have some power on paid suse people.

>
> eg. If I decided I wanted to submit a patch to change grub to grub2,
> it has to be accepted.  And in the current setup that basically means
   Coolo has
to accept it. (or veto it). 
if you where the only maintainer of grub and decided to stop it, I 
don't see what coolo could do.

 I have no issue with that reality.  Coolo does a great job from what I
  can tell.  But to claim he doesn't have that
power is to be blind to
 reality. 
your overestimate his power. I'm pretty sure one of his higher quality 
 is diplomacy :-). I'm very admirative about
him :-! Of course His 
advice have weight.

Yes, he's a great diplomate, but a sc is also important when there
occurs a "fight" between progressives and clnservatives. These
discussions are often very offending and sometimes more subjective then
anything other. Here a sc has to intervene and negioate as a fair
Balance between both parties

I guess that's the reason why per (and also i) wants to have such a sc.

 > I see this a maturing of the community.  For
now I am very happy with
   the way
things work, but what if one of the other sponsors wanted to
 have more say so at the steering committee level.  How would that be
 addressed? 
hiring developpers. Even users can do that if they are enough

The release manager have power when he have a real choice, yes, and 
it's important. But real choice is not that often in the opensource
world

jdd

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