On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 17:51 +0100, K. Dennis Leyendecker wrote:
On 18.01.2012 16:57, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 10:54 -0500, Adam Tauno
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 16:38 +0100, Dimstar /
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 12:44 +0100, Jos Poortvliet
> Do note that extensions are a pretty lousy solution for anyone who doesn't
> have a good internet connection (eg many of our users in Asia and South
> America). I hope we can provide them with a selection of extensions by default
> in our next release. Especially some which bring back a more familiar (and
> efficient*) desktop metaphor.
> *yes, I'm one of those who can't live without a decent taskbar
Use your favorite package manager and install any of the packaged
extensions (oh no! They come from the internet too! Not sure what we
just won; installing them all by default does not strike me as the right
+1 I'm not a fan of jamming in a bunch of extensions. But they can be
toggled on an off with gnome-tweak-tool
Not all of those extensions are tweak-tool-able. And the downside with
tweak-tool is many people still don't know about it. :-/
Then it would be to time to make some serious noise about it, right ;-)
Seriously, I'm not that deep into GNOME nor am I in the position to
decide something, so I can only suggest. I'd deliver GNOME 3.4 (this
will be the release for 12.2, right?) with tweak-tool and a bookmark of
I do think an integrated way of providing the extensions would be better
than a bookmark. Sure, bookmark would be easy, no design required, no
bugs, etc. But a nice integrated GUI functionality in the settings
menu would be just what the doctor ordered for a truly happy GNOME user
experience that appeases more people than currently today.
I only wish I had design expertise so that I would do more than just
talk the talk here and actually walk the walk. :-)
Why? There several people who are really happy with GNOME 3, and they
might want to make their user experience even better, so they could have
a quick look at extensions.g.o.
In my observation, as one who was also originally unhappy with GNOME 3,
the unhappiness is eliminated with the beauty of the extensions. :-)
The integrated delivery of extensions in a nice graphical way would do
so much to enhance the experience plus lessen the noise of the
anti-GNOME 3'ers and give developers and other defenders more time to
focus on actual enhancements rather than responding to mail after mail
and article after article out there. I think time is truly wasted on
the arguments when the function is already there, just not the form.
There also people who aren't that happy with GNOME
3 but want to use it.
For them, e.g.o would be the place of choice to configure GNOME 3 to
In the end both sides won.
@Jos Yes, slow internet connections are a problem. There's even the
possibility to provide extensions via DVD, but this would require a
bunch of $$$, infrastructure etc, so it would might be much more effort
then it should be.
Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team
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