On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 17:51 +0100, K. Dennis Leyendecker wrote:
On 18.01.2012 16:57, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 10:54 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 16:38 +0100, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 12:44 +0100, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
https://extensions.gnome.org/ Do note that extensions are a pretty lousy solution for anyone who doesn't have a good internet connection (eg many of our users in Asia and South America). I hope we can provide them with a selection of extensions by default in our next release. Especially some which bring back a more familiar (and efficient*) desktop metaphor. *yes, I'm one of those who can't live without a decent taskbar Use your favorite package manager and install any of the packaged extensions (oh no! They come from the internet too! Not sure what we just won; installing them all by default does not strike me as the right approach).
+1 I'm not a fan of jamming in a bunch of extensions. But they can be toggled on an off with gnome-tweak-tool
Not all of those extensions are tweak-tool-able. And the downside with tweak-tool is many people still don't know about it. :-/
Then it would be to time to make some serious noise about it, right ;-)
Seriously, I'm not that deep into GNOME nor am I in the position to decide something, so I can only suggest. I'd deliver GNOME 3.4 (this will be the release for 12.2, right?) with tweak-tool and a bookmark of extensions.gnome.org in Firefox.
I do think an integrated way of providing the extensions would be better than a bookmark. Sure, bookmark would be easy, no design required, no bugs, etc. But a nice integrated GUI functionality in the settings menu would be just what the doctor ordered for a truly happy GNOME user experience that appeases more people than currently today. I only wish I had design expertise so that I would do more than just talk the talk here and actually walk the walk. :-)
Why? There several people who are really happy with GNOME 3, and they might want to make their user experience even better, so they could have a quick look at extensions.g.o.
In my observation, as one who was also originally unhappy with GNOME 3, the unhappiness is eliminated with the beauty of the extensions. :-) The integrated delivery of extensions in a nice graphical way would do so much to enhance the experience plus lessen the noise of the anti-GNOME 3'ers and give developers and other defenders more time to focus on actual enhancements rather than responding to mail after mail and article after article out there. I think time is truly wasted on the arguments when the function is already there, just not the form.
There also people who aren't that happy with GNOME 3 but want to use it. For them, e.g.o would be the place of choice to configure GNOME 3 to their needs.
In the end both sides won.
@Jos Yes, slow internet connections are a problem. There's even the possibility to provide extensions via DVD, but this would require a bunch of $$$, infrastructure etc, so it would might be much more effort then it should be.
Bryen
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