On 10/25/2011 03:00 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
> Robert Schweikert wrote:
>>>> If we have a "Community" section in the release notes we can
>>>> highlight projects such as KDE:KDE3 that are efforts by the
>>>> community or individuals within the community and that are not part
>>>> of the release as such. In this section we could also talk about
>>>> other projects such as the Virtualization:Cloud projects that are
>>>> not part of 12.1 proper but might be interesting to people looking
>>>> at openSUSE.
>>>> Hope this clarifies things a bit.
>>> Not really, but I look forward to further clarification of what is
>>> community driven and what isn't. It is clear that some things are
>>> not (KDE4, systemd come to mind), but it's all mostly hidden behind
>>> the scene.
>> Excuse me?
>> How are KDE4 and systemd not community driven?
> Why don't you explain the opposite to me? What were the decision
> processes involved in the focus-shift towards KDE4?
OK, I'll be partially repeating what I said in the thread when we
Those who contribute to any given devel project within openSUSE
determine the direction of the project by means of their contribution.
If a given devel project such as the init system or KDE happens to have
mostly contributors that also happen to work at SUSE than that's just
the way it is. However, this does not preclude contributors that do not
work for SUSE, there's no "SUSE employees only" project in openSUSE, to
contribute to the devel project. With contribution one gets influence
over the direction of the project.
Those who do the work determine the direction. Then they submit to
factory and if things work and are maintained the submissions generally
get accepted into factory.
As I mentioned previously, the maintainers of the devel projects
generally follow the direction of upstream, thus the switch to KDE4 is
quite logical as KDE3 was abandoned upstream. Similar for the init
system, upstream development is moving to systemd.
There is nothing that prevents someone from maintaining the init system
in openSUSE, just don't expect it to happen by some miracle, it takes
people to do it and if the people who maintain the startup processes
decide that something new is better and they don't break what I am doing
I have little grounds to complain. If something breaks I get an
opportunity to contribute and I can file a bug. As long as I do not
contribute to a given project I certainly have no grounds to bitch and
complain about the direction the project takes. I certainly can voice my
opinion, but that should occur in a well mannered tone.
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX
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