On 10/25/2011 10:47 AM, Claudio Freire wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Will Stephenson<wstephenson(a)suse.de> wrote:
>> Finally, if I may suggest a more useful way to please the diehards while
>> making openSUSE unique: just port KDE 3 kdesktop and kicker to KDE 4, provide
>> it as an alternate KDE 4 desktop shell in KDE:Extra.
>
> +1
>
> I think all this effort would be better spent finalizing the missing
> functionality of KDE4 apps.
>
> Like kaffeine, I miss kaffeine3, which was complete, a decent media player.
> Kaffeine4 doesn't even have a way to switch subtitles, which is ridiculous.
>
> All this effort in KDE3 would be better spent in trying to fill those
> huge gaps in KDE4 functionality, IMO.
Remember, this is a community and a community project, not a company.
Thus, one should be careful about telling people wher they should spend
their time and effort. Ilya has decided to maintain KDE3, which I am
certain has benefits for some users of openSUSE. Thanks for the effort Ilya.
The question we should be discussing here is not how people spent the
time they volunteer to the project, rather we should discuss whether
KDE3 should be part of the main release and what to say about it in the
release notes.
IMHO KDE3 should not be part of the main release, for reasons I
mentioned earlier in this thread, but should be promoted in the release
notes in a "Community" section thereof.
Later,
Robert
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Heya all,
Your marketeers have been working on the product highlights for 12.1 but
especially in the more technical area's we are quite prone to making
mistakes and missing Cool Stuff(TM). We therefor would like to ask you
to spend a bit of your time on reviewing of and adding to our release
notes, in draft on ietherpad:
http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes
This document is meant as an end-user thing as well as for the press,
but YOU don't have to write that part. Any braindump or a simple bullet
list - even links to blogs are very much appreciated! You don't only
have to write about what you maintain, if there's anything you can add,
please do so!
Let's make 12.1 rock AND let the world notice that :D
Thanks a lot,
Your marketing team
Problem when compiling kernel linux-2.6.37.6-0.7. Tell me what the
problem here. Compile command make rpm
MKDIR
/usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/3com/
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`/usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/./',
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Stop.
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
MKDIR
/usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/acenic/
MKDIR
/usr/src/packages/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.37.60.7paeifb_1000-1.i386/lib/firmware/2.6.37.6-0.7-pae-ifb_1000/adaptec/
make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Drmukx (%install)
RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Drmukx (%install)
make[1]: *** [rpm] Error 1
make: *** [rpm] Error 2
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Hi,
Today at the project meeting we had an initial discussion on one of the
items from the "What we need to improve" session at OSC 11. We discussed
the problem around the number of mailing lists. I tried to capture the
highlights of the discussion in the wiki:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:What_to_improve_osc11_session#Improve_commu…
as bullet points.
If there is anything I missed or you have ideas in this area that should
be captured please feel free to add them to the wiki. The idea is that
we do not want to start the discussion from scratch when we pick this
topic up again.
Also it appears that there might be a need for a volunteer to create a
proposal at some point in the future, hopefully not too distant future ;)
Later,
Robert
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Hallo Leute,
ich beobachte euch schon seit einigen Jahren. Mitunter probiere ich auch
Suse Versionen aus. Eine Software gehört aber zu meiner Stammausrüstung
und das ist iFolder!
Bitte aktualisiert diese Software weiter. Ich benutze es um zwischen
meinen Betriebssystemen zu syncronisieren. Und die aktuelle Version ist
in ihren Abhängigkeiten (.net,...) etwas veraltet.
Könntet Ihr mir eine Info geben, bei wem ich näheres erfahren könnte?
Viele Grüße
M.Grau
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Hello,
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Some time ago, we collected ideas for contributor gifts on
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contributor_gifts
and also decided who should receive a gift - see
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682098
(basically active members + GSOC students + an option to propose someone
who contributed a lot, but isn't a member (yet)).
I discussed with AJ today which items on the list would be possible and
would make sense. That made list much shorter ;-)
The contributor gifts should be something special/exclusive IMHO, not
the "usual" stuff we hand out to visitors at conferences or stuff you
can order via shop.o.o. I'd say the symbolic value is more important
than the price - no gold bar with geeko embossing needed ;-)
The narrowed down list contains these proposals:
a) things you can touch
- coffee mugs
- caps
- T-Shirt (not an exceptional idea, but people like them)
- USB memory sticks (with bootable openSUSE)
- openSUSE playing cards
The design should be something special that is only available to
contributors/members and should contain a hint that the person who
wears/owns item is an openSUSE contributor/member. (Take the 11.1
"iContribute" t-shirts as an example.)
The openSUSE playing cards are an idea on its own. While the easiest way
would be to create "normal" playing cards and just replace king and
queen with Tux and Geeko, having a special "openSUSE game" would be even
better. (But that would probably also mean it won't be ready when we
release 12.1.)
When we send out a parcel, we can always add things like stickers, some
promo DVDs and a cheat sheet poster. And of course a "thank you" letter.
b) Awards at openSUSE conference for contributions in a few categories
There would be some categories (for example marketing, packaging,
development, bugreporting etc.), and the top-contributor in each
category would receive a price. This price would be "bigger" and more
personal compared to the items in a)
The handling could be done similar to how KDE does Akademy awards:
Winners from last year choose winners from next year; would only need
'starting up' for us (categories and winners). The only risk is that not
everybody might love that sort of "paperwork" to choose next year's
winners so we might need some volunteers as fallback.
c) software
SLE* license for free or at least a special price (a restriction to
"updates only, without support" if you do it for free would be OK).
The problem with this option is that not everybody needs a SLE* license.
If we decide on one of those, then the next problem comes up: money ;-)
At the moment there isn't a budget available, but AJ sees at least
chances to get one. (We'll probably have to discuss the details after
deciding which of the above we want to do - or if we spend the money for
something totally different.)
Beside the costs for the gifts itsself, we also have to keep shipment
costs and customs in mind. This leads to another question:
When/how often do we send a gift to a contributor? The options are:
- at every release
- once a year - (could even reduce shipment costs - people visiting the
conference could get it there, so we have to ship only to those who
can't come to the conference)
- once when you become a member - call it a "member welcome package" ;-)
(and of course the current members would also receive it)
I'm open for feedback. What of the above do you think would make a good
contributor gift? When/how often should we send one? Or shouldn't we
send one at all and spend the money otherwise?
There are also some good ideas in the wiki page would make good
giveaways at conferences, trade fairs etc:
- geeko-shaped paperclips
- geeko/openSUSE pins
- key fobs
- lanyards
- jellybaby geekos - someone (Klaas?) mentioned this idea at the
conference, but the problem seems to be that producing the shape/form
is expensive. The jellybybies itsself are quite cheap compared to
that.
@marketing team: feel free to use any of those ideas ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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Hi,
By now everybody has probably heard of the Secure Boot UEFI feature
being pushed by Micro$oft onto OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers).
Between Micro$oft's strong arm tactics and the lack of a backbone at the
OEM end we all know where this can lead. The FSF has started a petition
to collect "signatures" in an effort to make OEMs aware that there are
significant pitfalls ahead.
For those that care to run openSUSE and other free and open source
software on the hardware they purchase in the future signing this
petition is probably a good idea, IMHO everyone in the openSUSE
community should sign this ;)
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement
Later,
Robert
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