I see different teams announce their team meetings in different ways and
suggest to discuss how to do it the best way - and document it.
Here's one proposal for this:
== Announcing Team Meetings ==
* Create a meeting page in the wiki to collect the agenda
* Add the meeting to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Meetings
* Get the meeting in the calendar on news.o.o - this way the openSUSE
Weekly News Team will add it to their calendar
* Announce it via opensuse-announce(a)opensuse.org and
news.o.o. for the first meeting or for special meetings
* Announce it on your team mailing list
* Good practice: Announce a preliminary agenda with topics for the
meeting and not only that it will take place
Right now we have both the wiki calendar in the meetings portal and the
news.o.o calendar, I propose to remove the wiki calendar and point to
news.o.o.
Thoughts on this?
Btw. - I would add the result of our discussion to
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Meetings,
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Hello wiki-list!
A) The problem:
*There seems to be no article about Bugzilla in the wiki*
Maybe someone could help the consumer a bit if she/he needs help from
the wiki with bugzilla
about the issues:
1)
a) to know what bugzilla is - the description and the definition
(the wiki helping the consumer to get basic knowledge about a essential
part of the openSUSE project -
in my opinion the lowest level, according to the telos/meaning of
namespaces, namespace definitons and namespace rules:
so namespace 0=main or at least namespace 102 = portal)
b) to know if someone else has the same problem (troubleshooting/support
- I think that would be the most wanted but according to the words of
the definition a article only on this issue would be member of namespace
SDB)
2)
a) wants the developers to tell about a problem that he has so that the
developers can help him (article about to get help by by telling the
helpers about the problem - namespace SDB)
b) wants to help the developers to improve the distribution by telling
them about a problem hat she/he had (article about helping the helpers
by telling the helpers about the problem - namespace openSUSE)
c) wants other users to tell about a workaround/solution he had figured
out (the wiki helping to help the potential helper to tell the
users/consumer about a possible resolution - namespace openSUSE)
B) The plot/the detailed description:
The last night I saw a edit according to a problem that prevents users
to make live usb devices form DVD images and
therefor to install a DVD image on a netbook (which by definition has no
DVD or CD drive):
This morning I wanted to help the users that had reported that problem
in the forums
(see:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq…http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/install-boot-login/442070-…
and on the wiki
by telling him how to escalate that a bit
so that in the future the potential users of openSUSE on a netbook
do not give up
just because they are not able to install a DVD image on a netbook
(what would be a bit funny after making the netbook support a highlight
of the new version open 11.3 and the mobile things a strategic/tactic
target of openSUSE - see the new openSUSE strategy).
I thought it would be an easy thing to give them the according article
about bugzilla in the wiki (a "what is" including the purpose of
bugzilla and may be with a little "how to use" or at least a link to a
article about the detailed "how to use").
I gave "bugzilla" in the normal internal search engine of the wiki -
with me been logged in and so (differing to the default settings) with
the search in namespace SDB = ns102 also enabled so I would get
with will (as I understood) the openSUSE-wiki's seach engine make
0) would lead to an article with name/tile "bugzilla" if such would exist
(and if not go to 1) and 2)
which may be equal to
http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=20&offset=0&ns0…
)
1) first get articles displayed with with "bugzilla" in the name/tile
and 1) will be containing (without a namespace related) order
1.1) articles in the namespace main (ns0)
1.2) articles in the namespace SDB (ns100)
1.2) articles in the namespace Portal (ns102)
2) second get articles displayed with with "bugzilla" in the body/text
and 2) will be containing (a namespace related) order
2.1) articles in the namespace main (ns0)
2.2) articles in the namespace SDB (ns100)
2.2) articles in the namespace Portal (ns102)
According to the google-like output/display of the output
of titles and text around the fitting words in the text of the search
results
the best fitting but last displayed article of 23 search results was:
http://en.opensuse.org/BG-Submitting_Bug_Reports
which sees to contain something about the topic 2) but cause of my not
existing knowledge of/in that language (my guess: Bulgarian with
Cyrillic letters - ISO 639-1 bg)
I can understand only the links and the title of that article in English.
C) The solution?:
Greetings
pistazienfresser
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Hi all!
Okay, you know the drill. This one is the "openSUSE - For the productive
poweruser".
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== openSUSE - For the productive poweruser ==
=== Statement ===
openSUSE should strive to be the productive distribution for powerusers
on modern PCs (workstation, laptop, netbook, server) and having a
healthy balance of innovation and stability.
We cannot compete with Ubuntu for the übernoob segment, and we shouldn't
compete with Fedora on being experimental bleeding edge - instead we
should pick the middle ground.
This strategy would be nicely in line with SLE and what (open)SUSE has
historically been, and what existing users expect from openSUSE.
The main purpose of the strategy in my opinion is to help developers,
contributors and marketers all pull in same direction, and to clarify
for users what openSUSE tries to be and do.
NOTE: In my mind you don't have to be a kernel hacker or a guru sysadmin
to be a poweruser, in my estimation powerusers cover:
* ~10% of all PC users
* ~50% of all Linux users
* ~75% of existing openSUSE users
* ~100% of existing openSUSE contributors
== Activities ==
==== We need to be excellent in the following ====
* Making sure as much as possible just works out of the box
* Having good and sane defaults so the user can do what ''he'' wants to do
* Focus on providing tools for being productive/creative (IDEs, editors,
authoring tools, graphics manipulation, office productivity, etc.)
* Providing admin tools that are powerful yet (reasonably) easy
==== We will try to do the following effectively ====
* Deliver a strong, general purpose distro that anyone can use without
too much effort
* Innovate and keep up with latest upstream developments
=== As project, we will not focus on the following anymore ===
* Dumbing things down for Aunt Tillie
* Going out of our way to support old hardware and non-mainstream
architectures
* Supporting form-factors that are not workstation, laptop, server or
netbook
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Hi all!
Today we continue with public discussions about strategy proposals
submitted by you, our beloved community. The first one is the "Linux
Distribution Platform Strategy":
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=== openSUSE, the Linux distribution platform ===
== Goals ==
The goal of openSUSE as a project is to provide a platform for
distributing Linux and software running on Linux to a wide range of
users. This platform consists of tools for creating software
distributions, the openSUSE distribution as base and reference
implementation, and the community supporting the tools and the distribution.
On top of the platform the openSUSE universe consists of more specific
distributions, which make use of openSUSE infrastructure and technology.
Examples are SLES, MeeGo, openSUSE Education, KDE and GNOME live
systems, and could also be for example developer or cloud oriented
distributions and more. So openSUSE provides a way for subteams to
address specific user groups and needs. openSUSE also provides means to
distribute software independent of the environment of the user to spread
Linux based software and make software easily available for use in the
openSUSE distribution and systems based on it.
The openSUSE distribution acts as a reference distribution, providing an
environment for testing the used technology, a stabilizing ground for
common components, and a real-life use case for applying technology and
distributing Linux software. It's targeted at technically interested
users, including programmers and system administrators. It has a focus
on good user experience and making technology available to end users. It
doesn't target users with highly specific technical needs.
== Activities ==
= Essentials =
* Provide stable set of supported core packages distributions can build
on
* Broad hardware support of components and platforms
* Provide tools for package and distribution building and testing
(e.g. openSUSE Build Service)
* Provide common building blocks for distribution, e.g. installer,
configuration tool, maintenance tools, development tools for web,
native and other applications, and more
* Provide home for overall community and specific openSUSE teams, e.g.
bug tracker, wiki, mailing lists, collaboration tools
* Create the official openSUSE distribution as reference implementation
* Enable, support, and collaborate with specific teams to create their
own distributions
* Enable and support, and collaborate with upstream developers to build
and distribute their software on openSUSE
= Good to have =
* Provide wide variety of packages for further use
* Community for user support
* Work on standards which make it easier to mix components, e.g. free
desktop standards
* Collaboration with other distribution platforms
= No focus =
* Directly providing a polished distribution for non-technical end users
* Bleeding edge technology
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All,
My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer
versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do
that.
In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between
factory/distro and contrib.
Reading http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contrib#Rules_for_the_repository I see:
===
The repository is branched at openSUSE release time
(openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:<version>:Contrib)
* After the branch no version updates are allowed anymore, unless
explicitly allowed by openSUSE:<version>:Contrib maintainers.
* Bugfixes happen as patches to the packages
===
That says to me, it has the same basic update rules as the distro.
Can someone clarify if the above is right.
If so, it leaves me with one big question. What is the difference
between factory and contrib?
Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question.
Greg
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Hello Mates,
i'm not sure if this is the right Emaillist, but i try it.
For me it would be interesting how many hit gets the Weekly News. As
Example: en, de an ja.
Have we an option to track that?
cu Sascha
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We’re proud to announce today that Jos Poortvliet will join the openSUSE
project and Novell as openSUSE Community Manager starting on August 1. With
Jos we’ve found a leader with excellent community building experience
combined with a very welcoming nature, many fresh, promising ideas and a
strong drive to grow the openSUSE Project. Jos holds a degree in
Organisational Psychology from the University of Utrecht and has gained
valuable experience in several professional roles ranging from Project
Manager at KPN to Service Level Manager at Royal Bank of Scotland. Last but
not least, Jos is a leading member of the KDE Marketing Team and has helped
Akademy and the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit attract a vibrant and
collaborative audience.
Jos commented, “The opportunity to become part of the international
openSUSE community is very exciting. There are a great number of
interesting developments going on in the free software world, and openSUSE
plays a major role in many of them. I look forward to working with the
community on these, helping it grow, finding new directions and ways of
developing, and delivering its innovative technologies to users and
developers around the world.”
We enthusiastically welcome Jos and look forward to his working with the
openSUSE community to shape the future of the openSUSE project. After his
start he will be deeply involved in the openSUSE conference, other
community events and activities, and of course he will have the pleasure of
promoting openSUSE wherever possible.
Andreas
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Moin,
please join tomorrow's openSUSE conference meeting on Freenode IRC Network in
the #opensuse-project channel at 14:00 UTC, 4pm CEST, 10am EST
Topics:
- Current status of Call for Papers
- talks selection, creation of a program
- to do's for next 2 weeks
Thanks
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