openSUSE Project July 2010

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by Andreas Jaeger

I see different teams announce their team meetings in different ways and suggest to discuss how to do it the best way - and document it. Here's one proposal for this: == Announcing Team Meetings == * Create a meeting page in the wiki to collect the agenda * Add the meeting to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Meetings * Get the meeting in the calendar on news.o.o - this way the openSUSE Weekly News Team will add it to their calendar * Announce it via opensuse-announce(a)opensuse.org and news.o.o. for the first meeting or for special meetings * Announce it on your team mailing list * Good practice: Announce a preliminary agenda with topics for the meeting and not only that it will take place Right now we have both the wiki calendar in the meetings portal and the news.o.o calendar, I propose to remove the wiki calendar and point to news.o.o. Thoughts on this? Btw. - I would add the result of our discussion to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Meetings, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

10 years

Bugzilla is missing in the wiki?

by pistazienfresser

Hello wiki-list! A) The problem: *There seems to be no article about Bugzilla in the wiki* Maybe someone could help the consumer a bit if she/he needs help from the wiki with bugzilla about the issues: 1) a) to know what bugzilla is - the description and the definition (the wiki helping the consumer to get basic knowledge about a essential part of the openSUSE project - in my opinion the lowest level, according to the telos/meaning of namespaces, namespace definitons and namespace rules: so namespace 0=main or at least namespace 102 = portal) b) to know if someone else has the same problem (troubleshooting/support - I think that would be the most wanted but according to the words of the definition a article only on this issue would be member of namespace SDB) 2) a) wants the developers to tell about a problem that he has so that the developers can help him (article about to get help by by telling the helpers about the problem - namespace SDB) b) wants to help the developers to improve the distribution by telling them about a problem hat she/he had (article about helping the helpers by telling the helpers about the problem - namespace openSUSE) c) wants other users to tell about a workaround/solution he had figured out (the wiki helping to help the potential helper to tell the users/consumer about a possible resolution - namespace openSUSE) B) The plot/the detailed description: The last night I saw a edit according to a problem that prevents users to make live usb devices form DVD images and therefor to install a DVD image on a netbook (which by definition has no DVD or CD drive): This morning I wanted to help the users that had reported that problem in the forums (see: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq… http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/install-boot-login/442070-… and on the wiki by telling him how to escalate that a bit so that in the future the potential users of openSUSE on a netbook do not give up just because they are not able to install a DVD image on a netbook (what would be a bit funny after making the netbook support a highlight of the new version open 11.3 and the mobile things a strategic/tactic target of openSUSE - see the new openSUSE strategy). I thought it would be an easy thing to give them the according article about bugzilla in the wiki (a "what is" including the purpose of bugzilla and may be with a little "how to use" or at least a link to a article about the detailed "how to use"). I gave "bugzilla" in the normal internal search engine of the wiki - with me been logged in and so (differing to the default settings) with the search in namespace SDB = ns102 also enabled so I would get with will (as I understood) the openSUSE-wiki's seach engine make 0) would lead to an article with name/tile "bugzilla" if such would exist (and if not go to 1) and 2) which may be equal to http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=20&offset=0&ns0… ) 1) first get articles displayed with with "bugzilla" in the name/tile and 1) will be containing (without a namespace related) order 1.1) articles in the namespace main (ns0) 1.2) articles in the namespace SDB (ns100) 1.2) articles in the namespace Portal (ns102) 2) second get articles displayed with with "bugzilla" in the body/text and 2) will be containing (a namespace related) order 2.1) articles in the namespace main (ns0) 2.2) articles in the namespace SDB (ns100) 2.2) articles in the namespace Portal (ns102) According to the google-like output/display of the output of titles and text around the fitting words in the text of the search results the best fitting but last displayed article of 23 search results was: http://en.opensuse.org/BG-Submitting_Bug_Reports which sees to contain something about the topic 2) but cause of my not existing knowledge of/in that language (my guess: Bulgarian with Cyrillic letters - ISO 639-1 bg) I can understand only the links and the title of that article in English. C) The solution?: Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

10 years, 3 months

openSUSE Strategy Discussion: For the productive poweruser

by Pavol Rusnak

Hi all! Okay, you know the drill. This one is the "openSUSE - For the productive poweruser". ---8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<--- == openSUSE - For the productive poweruser == === Statement === openSUSE should strive to be the productive distribution for powerusers on modern PCs (workstation, laptop, netbook, server) and having a healthy balance of innovation and stability. We cannot compete with Ubuntu for the übernoob segment, and we shouldn't compete with Fedora on being experimental bleeding edge - instead we should pick the middle ground. This strategy would be nicely in line with SLE and what (open)SUSE has historically been, and what existing users expect from openSUSE. The main purpose of the strategy in my opinion is to help developers, contributors and marketers all pull in same direction, and to clarify for users what openSUSE tries to be and do. NOTE: In my mind you don't have to be a kernel hacker or a guru sysadmin to be a poweruser, in my estimation powerusers cover: * ~10% of all PC users * ~50% of all Linux users * ~75% of existing openSUSE users * ~100% of existing openSUSE contributors == Activities == ==== We need to be excellent in the following ==== * Making sure as much as possible just works out of the box * Having good and sane defaults so the user can do what ''he'' wants to do * Focus on providing tools for being productive/creative (IDEs, editors, authoring tools, graphics manipulation, office productivity, etc.) * Providing admin tools that are powerful yet (reasonably) easy ==== We will try to do the following effectively ==== * Deliver a strong, general purpose distro that anyone can use without too much effort * Innovate and keep up with latest upstream developments === As project, we will not focus on the following anymore === * Dumbing things down for Aunt Tillie * Going out of our way to support old hardware and non-mainstream architectures * Supporting form-factors that are not workstation, laptop, server or netbook ---8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<--- -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

10 years, 3 months

openSUSE Strategy Discussion: The Linux Distribution Platform Strategy

by Pavol Rusnak

Hi all! Today we continue with public discussions about strategy proposals submitted by you, our beloved community. The first one is the "Linux Distribution Platform Strategy": ---8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<--- === openSUSE, the Linux distribution platform === == Goals == The goal of openSUSE as a project is to provide a platform for distributing Linux and software running on Linux to a wide range of users. This platform consists of tools for creating software distributions, the openSUSE distribution as base and reference implementation, and the community supporting the tools and the distribution. On top of the platform the openSUSE universe consists of more specific distributions, which make use of openSUSE infrastructure and technology. Examples are SLES, MeeGo, openSUSE Education, KDE and GNOME live systems, and could also be for example developer or cloud oriented distributions and more. So openSUSE provides a way for subteams to address specific user groups and needs. openSUSE also provides means to distribute software independent of the environment of the user to spread Linux based software and make software easily available for use in the openSUSE distribution and systems based on it. The openSUSE distribution acts as a reference distribution, providing an environment for testing the used technology, a stabilizing ground for common components, and a real-life use case for applying technology and distributing Linux software. It's targeted at technically interested users, including programmers and system administrators. It has a focus on good user experience and making technology available to end users. It doesn't target users with highly specific technical needs. == Activities == = Essentials = * Provide stable set of supported core packages distributions can build on * Broad hardware support of components and platforms * Provide tools for package and distribution building and testing (e.g. openSUSE Build Service) * Provide common building blocks for distribution, e.g. installer, configuration tool, maintenance tools, development tools for web, native and other applications, and more * Provide home for overall community and specific openSUSE teams, e.g. bug tracker, wiki, mailing lists, collaboration tools * Create the official openSUSE distribution as reference implementation * Enable, support, and collaborate with specific teams to create their own distributions * Enable and support, and collaborate with upstream developers to build and distribute their software on openSUSE = Good to have = * Provide wide variety of packages for further use * Community for user support * Work on standards which make it easier to mix components, e.g. free desktop standards * Collaboration with other distribution platforms = No focus = * Directly providing a polished distribution for non-technical end users * Bleeding edge technology ---8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<--- -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

10 years, 3 months

Confused by Contrib write-up on new wiki

by Greg Freemyer

All, My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do that. In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between factory/distro and contrib. Reading http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contrib#Rules_for_the_repository I see: === The repository is branched at openSUSE release time (openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:<version>:Contrib) * After the branch no version updates are allowed anymore, unless explicitly allowed by openSUSE:<version>:Contrib maintainers. * Bugfixes happen as patches to the packages === That says to me, it has the same basic update rules as the distro. Can someone clarify if the above is right. If so, it leaves me with one big question. What is the difference between factory and contrib? Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

10 years, 3 months

"Legal"/"General disclaimer" has been moved to "Terms of site"

by pistazienfresser (see profile)

Hello list, dear administrators of all the sub-projects of the openSUSE project, the content of the URL http://en.opensuse.org/Legal or http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:General_disclaimer has apparently been moved to http://en.opensuse.org/Terms_of_site . As Redirects get regularly deleted and content gets regularly moved from one namespace to an other or form one title to an other in the new wiki see: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:Log/delete http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Legal the administrators of other openSUSE (sub-) projects which are still referring to one of those or another old URL for this terms/legal issues/standard form contract (e. g.: http://forums.opensuse.org/faq.php?faq=novfor#faq_novellgen https://features.opensuse.org/ "Disclaimers" http://old-en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org "Disclaimers" http://software.opensuse.org/113/en "Legal information" ) may think of linking to the new URL or copy the content and use an URL in the according sub-project or make a page with new content in their sub-project. Greetings pistazienfresser P.S.: This is not meant as a comment that includes an opinion about the validity this terms in general... -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

10 years, 3 months

Statistics from the Weekly News

by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns

Hello Mates, i'm not sure if this is the right Emaillist, but i try it. For me it would be interesting how many hit gets the Weekly News. As Example: en, de an ja. Have we an option to track that? cu Sascha -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

10 years, 3 months

The openSUSE Project welcomes Jos Poortvliet as new Community Manager

by Andreas Jaeger

We’re proud to announce today that Jos Poortvliet will join the openSUSE project and Novell as openSUSE Community Manager starting on August 1. With Jos we’ve found a leader with excellent community building experience combined with a very welcoming nature, many fresh, promising ideas and a strong drive to grow the openSUSE Project. Jos holds a degree in Organisational Psychology from the University of Utrecht and has gained valuable experience in several professional roles ranging from Project Manager at KPN to Service Level Manager at Royal Bank of Scotland. Last but not least, Jos is a leading member of the KDE Marketing Team and has helped Akademy and the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit attract a vibrant and collaborative audience. Jos commented, “The opportunity to become part of the international openSUSE community is very exciting. There are a great number of interesting developments going on in the free software world, and openSUSE plays a major role in many of them. I look forward to working with the community on these, helping it grow, finding new directions and ways of developing, and delivering its innovative technologies to users and developers around the world.” We enthusiastically welcome Jos and look forward to his working with the openSUSE community to shape the future of the openSUSE project. After his start he will be deeply involved in the openSUSE conference, other community events and activities, and of course he will have the pleasure of promoting openSUSE wherever possible. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

10 years, 3 months

wiki search, much improved, thank you

by Greg Freemyer

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10 years, 3 months

openSUSE Conference Meeting Thurs, July 29

by Michael Loeffler

Moin, please join tomorrow's openSUSE conference meeting on Freenode IRC Network in the #opensuse-project channel at 14:00 UTC, 4pm CEST, 10am EST Topics: - Current status of Call for Papers - talks selection, creation of a program - to do's for next 2 weeks Thanks Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

10 years, 4 months

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