23 Jul
2010
23 Jul
'10
2:16 a.m.
All,
My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer
versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do
that.
In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between
factory/distro and contrib.
Reading http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contrib#Rules_for_the_repository I see:
===
The repository is branched at openSUSE release time
(openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:<version>:Contrib)
* After the branch no version updates are allowed anymore, unless
explicitly allowed by openSUSE:<version>:Contrib maintainers.
* Bugfixes happen as patches to the packages
===
That says to me, it has the same basic update rules as the distro.
Can someone clarify if the above is right.
If so, it leaves me with one big question. What is the difference
between factory and contrib?
Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question.
Greg
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23 Jul
23 Jul
8:53 a.m.
On 23/07/10 02:16, Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer
versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do
that.
In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between
factory/distro and contrib.
Reading http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contrib#Rules_for_the_repository I see:
===
The repository is branched at openSUSE release time
(openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:<version>:Contrib)
* After the branch no version updates are allowed anymore, unless
explicitly allowed by openSUSE:<version>:Contrib maintainers.
* Bugfixes happen as patches to the packages
===
That says to me, it has the same basic update rules as the distro.
Can someone clarify if the above is right.
If so, it leaves me with one big question. What is the difference
between factory and contrib?
Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question.
Greg
Hello Greg, hello list,
I think it would make sense to use the discussion page of the wiki
article for questions/discussions like that and make a hint/bump in
one/some related mailing-lists (here: wiki, project, buildservice, ...).
By the way:
In the status of the article today I am not able to know for sure who
made that proposal for a future concept of repositories cause nearly all
the history (see:
http://old-en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Contrib&action=history) is
missing in the 'new' article.
Greetings
pistazienfresser
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2:36 p.m.
On 07/23/2010 02:16 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer
versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do
that.
s/if the package maintainer wanted to do that/if there is a valid reason
for that/
In fact, I thought that was one of the major
differences between
factory/distro and contrib.
No, the major difference is that we don't guarantee the package in
Contrib will receive fixes for the lifetime of the distro. We would love
to acheive that, but it is not always possible (if maintainer drops
out). This is unthinkable for Factory package.
Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to
answer that question.
You are right, we need to document it better. We are also reworking on
Maintainance documentation - http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Maintenance
- and these two topics are connected ...
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4 Aug
4 Aug
3:42 p.m.
Pavol Rusnak wrote:
No, the major difference is that we don't
guarantee the package in
Contrib will receive fixes for the lifetime of the distro. We would love
to acheive that, but it is not always possible (if maintainer drops
out). This is unthinkable for Factory package.
Well, in an ideal world maybe. In reality if a package maintainer
vanishes, doesn't want to fix or can't fix things in openSUSE
releases a buggy or vulnerable package stays that way just as well.
cu
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