[opensuse-project] Confused by Contrib write-up on new wiki
All, My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do that. In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between factory/distro and contrib. Reading http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contrib#Rules_for_the_repository I see: === The repository is branched at openSUSE release time (openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:<version>:Contrib) * After the branch no version updates are allowed anymore, unless explicitly allowed by openSUSE:<version>:Contrib maintainers. * Bugfixes happen as patches to the packages === That says to me, it has the same basic update rules as the distro. Can someone clarify if the above is right. If so, it leaves me with one big question. What is the difference between factory and contrib? Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
All,
My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do that.
In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between factory/distro and contrib.
Reading http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Contrib#Rules_for_the_repository I see:
=== The repository is branched at openSUSE release time (openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:<version>:Contrib)
* After the branch no version updates are allowed anymore, unlessexplicitly allowed by openSUSE:<version>:Contrib maintainers. * Bugfixes happen as patches to the packages
That says to me, it has the same basic update rules as the distro.
Can someone clarify if the above is right.
If so, it leaves me with one big question. What is the difference between factory and contrib?
Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question.
Greg Hello Greg, hello list, I think it would make sense to use the discussion page of the wiki
On 23/07/10 02:16, Greg Freemyer wrote: article for questions/discussions like that and make a hint/bump in one/some related mailing-lists (here: wiki, project, buildservice, ...). By the way: In the status of the article today I am not able to know for sure who made that proposal for a future concept of repositories cause nearly all the history (see: http://old-en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Contrib&action=history) is missing in the 'new' article. Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On 07/23/2010 02:16 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
My impression was that packages in contrib could be upgraded to newer versions with relative ease if the package maintainer wanted to do that.
s/if the package maintainer wanted to do that/if there is a valid reason for that/
In fact, I thought that was one of the major differences between factory/distro and contrib.
No, the major difference is that we don't guarantee the package in Contrib will receive fixes for the lifetime of the distro. We would love to acheive that, but it is not always possible (if maintainer drops out). This is unthinkable for Factory package.
Reading the contrib page, I see nothing that tries to answer that question.
You are right, we need to document it better. We are also reworking on Maintainance documentation - http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Maintenance - and these two topics are connected ... -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Pavol Rusnak wrote:
No, the major difference is that we don't guarantee the package in Contrib will receive fixes for the lifetime of the distro. We would love to acheive that, but it is not always possible (if maintainer drops out). This is unthinkable for Factory package.
Well, in an ideal world maybe. In reality if a package maintainer vanishes, doesn't want to fix or can't fix things in openSUSE releases a buggy or vulnerable package stays that way just as well. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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