We will have an open discussion/workshop during the community meetings
on May 10 and 12 to discuss the successor of Leap and seek input and
gather interests from people who are interested in joining the
discussion. The workshop/discussion will be at
https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting and we will be using a pad to write
down points of interest. Please note that the time for the meetings will
shift from the normal time of 14:30 UTC to 13:30 UTC for May 10 and the
second meeting on May 12 will shift from 19:00 UTC to 18:00 UTC.
You can see the notes from today's meeting 1 below.
## Participants: Knurpht, Emily, Doug, Lubos
Doug gave update on TSP discussions. Pathway to resolving the TSP
looks promising and we hope to have solution soon. Unfortenately, we
can't say with 100% certainty it will be in place in time for oSC22 and
the openSUSE Summit at OSCAL
Went over the Leap Micro slides and discussed possible use cases for
it with Flatpaks, Snaps, AppImage
Organizing an open discussion/workshop on May 10 and May 12 to
discuss the successor of Leap and what are people's input/interests are.
Will take place at the community meeting time. (With a slight time shift
during that week)
The next two weeks of meetings to Meeting 1: Tuesday at 13:30
UTC and Meeting 2: Thursdays at 18:00 UTC. updated on
Will return to normal on May 17
I have placed the release announcement for openSUSE Leap 15.4 on the
wiki at https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.4
It would be highly appreciated if you could help to translate the
release announcement to your native language to help propagate the news
of our next release. Currently it is only in English. Feel free to link
your translated version to the top and include your ISO 639-1 Code
language code. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Also, please consider updating the screenshots once we have the RC. You
will find old screenshots on
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.4/Screenshots and new screenshots will
just need to be uploaded and updated.
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Reminder meeting : openSUSE Board meeting next Monday (13:00
To: openSUSE Meeting Reminder <no-reply(a)opensuse.org>, <board(a)opensuse.org>,
project <project(a)opensuse.org>, Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, bittin <
Attending as a guest
On 4/23/22, openSUSE Meeting Reminder <no-reply(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
> Hello all,
> The biweekly board conf call will be held in two days at 13:00
> time (CET = UTC+1)
> Meeting will be in the regular Board Meeting Room
> Current Topics:
> Board Members: If you cannot participate, please advise by replying to
The marketing team is still working on the release announcement and plan
to send it out for translation on or about April 20. We need more input
from the community about what packages to highlight and new features we
will have in openSUSE Leap 15.4. We go over the release announcement
during the community meetings.
Please visit https://en.opensuse.org/Features_15.4 for the list of
features we are highlighting. Feel free to add your package and
features, which will help us with some additional information to the
release announcement. Also, we would appreciate anyone willing to add
screenshots of their desktop and packages they are using to
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.4/Screenshots. Musicians, artist,
developers, creators please add the things you like to screenshots wiki
(sorry for the long but I believe important email)
since the *announcement of next-gen SUSE Linux Enterprise has already
landed, I'd like to take a moment and talk a bit about our last
openSUSE Leap 15.X release and set some expectations.
openSUSE Leap 15.5 will be based on the binaries and schedule of SUSE
Linux Enterprise 15 SP5.
SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 is using the tick-tock model, where 15 SP4
would be the feature release while 15 SP5 would be more of a bug fix r
perhaps it better to say "maintenance" release.
I did already created an SLE 15 SP5 draft-based *proposal for the
Roadmap. For which I'd appreciate your feedback. I'm a bit keen on
setting deadlines for the earlier milestones (See outlined
alternatives) rather than the SLE Public ones as we did in 15.5. That
in my opinion would result in fewer late changes and would be more
testing-oriented which is what I believe this release needs to be.
From the past, we know that "community originated" changes with a big
impact can happen also outside feature release, such as glibc and rpm
update in the late development phase of 15 SP3. We are in a bit
different situation now, as the parallel development of the "Adaptable
Linux Platform" is now happening publicly in OBS and neither community
nor SUSE has unlimited resources. As the plan is that the next
Community/Enterprise distribution (Leap) will be ALP itself (as it will
be developed open) or closely based on ALP I believe it makes sense to
steer community effort there as it pays off in the long run.
There are some problematic topics that we will have to address. One of
them in SLES 15 SP5+ and Leap 15.5 such as the python *situation. Which
will only get worse with each SLE Service Pack (keep in mind that
unlike for Leap there is a plan for SP7). Specifically for this isseu
we could use existing *code-o-o#17 and interlink it with internal
jsc#PM-3390 (Switch System Python3 to a supported version).
If you know about other larger topics that are worth fixing in the last
Leap 15.5 release, then please do not hesitate to report them in code-
o-o and set milestone to 15.5. We'll process them on next-next monday
on Community feature meeting (skip one due to Easter).
Any feedback is greatly welcome.
Thank you very much for your understanding
on behalf of openSUSE Release Team
(Sending to both openuse-project as well as opensuse-factory. Please keep
discussions on the -project list to make life easier for all.)
In the last months many people have brought up the topic of "When will the next
SLE major version come out?". Today we would like to give you a first update on
Since 2018, when SLE 15 was initially released a lot of things have changed,
including requirements from users and customers, technologies, the speed of new
versions of applications, languages and their libraries appearing.
Also the connection between Leap and SLE has changed.
And while some bits and pieces got better, we firmly believe we can do better.
SLE 15 is a great general purpose operating system, yet challenges with some
use cases, now places of deployment, and the type of enhancement requests show
that it's time for a successor.
With the next generation of Enterprise releases we want to tackle the above.
Intending to do radical changes (regarding technology- but also design-wise)
we choose "Adaptable Linux Platform" or short "ALP" as codename for that
next generation. This indicates already that some things will be quite
different than a "mere "SLE 15++ would be ;)
First and foremost, ALP will be developed in the open.
We are not going to put the pieces together internally and then share outside,
as in the past. No, we are creating and building in the openSUSE Build Service
- in a project next to you :). You get to directly see to see what is going on
and participate more easaily.
Another important point is that we intend to split what was a more generic,
everything is closely intertwined into two parts: One smaller hardware enabling
piece, a kind of "host OS", and the and the layer providing and supporting
applications, which will be container (and VM) based.
You might say "This is very generic, can you tell us more?" - of course. In the
upcoming weeks more and more will crystalize, and we will share as quickly and
regularly as possible. This is just a first heads-up to inform you that we are
in the process of setting everything up - from project to feedback channels,
from documentation to testing.
Of course, you will have lots of other questions - how will contribution work,
what impacts this has on LEAP and get-o-o, how migration could work, and many
more. We kindly ask you for a little bit of patience. We promise we will share
as soon as possible more details.
Stefan Behlert, SUSE Software Solutions
Product Management SUSE Linux Enterprise
Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, GF: Ivo Totev (HRB 36809, AG Nuernberg)
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From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: oSC22 and Community Meeting: Week 16
To: ddemaio <ddemaio(a)suse.de>, bittin <bittin(a)opensuse.org>, Martin
Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>, <ddemaio(a)opensuse.org>
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:39 AM Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>
> Will attend the Community Meeting today, before the foss-north Online 2022
> hangout starts: https://foss-north.se/https://foss-north.se/2022/
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:34 AM ddemaio <ddemaio(a)suse.de> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> There will be a Regular Community Meeting today at 14:30 UTC. At 19:00
>> UTC tonight, we will have a meeting for the openSUSE Conference. We will
>> have a second Regular Community Meeting on Thursday at 19:00 UTC.
>> View the community meeting notes at
>> https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting and the conference
>> planning meeting notes at https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/osc22
>> The meetings will take place on https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting