Hello,
It is with despair that I ask that you cancel my membership in
openSUSE. The constant bickering on the mailing lists is by far
outweighing any constructive growth/change in the project, and in light
of everything else going on in the world, I just don't have the
headspace for all that negative, unproductive noise.
I'm cc'ing the project overall; please let this serve as a lesson that
if one thinks they can bicker their way to the end result they want,
they may find they arrive there alone.
James Mason
Technical Architect, Public Cloud
SUSE
hi,
I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why
they both exist/which to use.
opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for
all the openSUSE distributions
opensuse-support English openSUSE support
thanks,
ITwrx
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Hi,
currently, there is no openQA for s390x. I have heard that this is due
to some storage issues, but that is only second hand rumours, no direct
communication.
For me this is kind of unfortunate, because I do care about
openSUSE:Factory:zSystems, and without openQA, there is no release nor
any reasonable information about the state of the distribution.
During my time at SUSE, I did the Mainframe part to get openQA running,
later on, when openQA had some network requirements changed, I even
sponsored a Server to make that running again. However, even though I
addressed this multiple times, I am not able to get information about
the state, not to say get it rebuilt.
Is there anyone who knows what I can do to bring this issue forward? To
me, this is kind of frustrating at the moment and I think this needs
broader attention.
So, if you know what I could do, please tell me ...
Berthold
azouhr(a)opensuse.org
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Dear openSUSE community members,
this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board.
We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re-
election of the openSUSE board.
Reasoning:
In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a
candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those
concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly
harsh words on both sides.
Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks
Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been
ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never
been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or
indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should
have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has
never happened.
Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to
legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member.
Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board,
2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force
Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding
principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence
or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks
before the election and the election weeks itself.
Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board
statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles
and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's
decision to step down, too.
As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are
subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been
around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but
even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and
discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement
published by Marina.
As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents
which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the
openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the
complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the
community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules
itself.
Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see
whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean
new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead.
Kind regards
Pierre Böckmann
P.S.
Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth
details.
Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful
towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor
of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community.
Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few
weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community
elections outcome, rules and principles.
Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable
to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took
the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this
proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community.
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Dear openSUSE members,
just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board
has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an
election for that vacancy.
The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election
officials.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out!
Gerald
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Hi all,
I just wanted to give you an update on the conference for those of you
who might not have seen it. There is also the option for a mini summit
below. I'll send more information from our latest meeting once we work
out the details. If you want to help with the planning of the
conference, feel free to contact me.
v/r
Doug
Organizers of the openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference
<https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSLO> along with the project’s
boards have made the decision to change the conference to an online
conference.
The uncertainty surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic and its effect on
travel, conference planning, logistics and possibility for attendees to
come to the event were reasons for shifting the event from a physical
event to an online event.
Shifting the conference online is good news and the organizers intend to
provide a great conference that is filled with insightful talks,
technical presentations and sessions dedicated for those who want to
socialize during the event. Using video a conferencing tool, attendees
learn about new technologies in openSUSE and LibreOffice and have the
chance to chat to developers and ask questions. Communities involved in
marketing, design, QA and other topics will be able to meet online,
catch up and exchange ideas.
The Call for Papers (CfP) will remain open and people can continue to
submit their talks until July 21. The submissions for the CfP will
continue to take place on the Open Source Event Manager (OSEM) instance
at https://events.opensuse.org. The collection of submissions will be
organized in the OSEM tool, but the online event will take place on a
different website site like the one recently used for the openSUSE
Virtual Summit – https://opensuse.reqmagic.com. The platform works with
Firefox, Chromium and other open-source browsers. The software leverages
various APIs (YouTube, Dolby, etc) to enable web based service, which is
entirely HTML5 based with no plugins required.
More information can be found at
https://news.opensuse.org/2020/06/02/opensuse-libreoffice-conference-will-t…
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Present: Axel, Marina, Gerald, Vinz
Guest: Doug (first topic)
Excused: Simon
== The Teams of openSUSE ==
* An idea was brought up to introduce the various teams we have in
openSUSE, similar to the contributor interviews from the past.
* Why? Share some of the goodness and options to contribute we have
at openSUSE.
* https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams was pointed out as an overview,
alas some teams are missing. But it's a good start, and this is a
good initiative per se and to help build out that page.
* Side question: Do we want to propose to have the individual reports
somewhere on suse.com in addition to opensuse.org?
* Initial thought is to focus on opensuse.org and see whether we can
do a summary/compilation blog with references on in the suse.com
communities blog instead (to increase awareness for openSUSE from
that angle).
* This is not meant to replace or compete with "people of openSUSE"
interviews, rather to complement.
* Some concerns that not all teams/team members might be interested
in this kind of publicity, but: never try, never know.
== openSUSE Conference and GDPR ==
* Marina, Doug, and Ciaran (from SUSE Legal) are working together on
GDPR related topics around the openSUSE Conference, which should
also prove useful for openSUSE in general and a base for work on
a Foundation.
== Status of Foundation? ==
* Axel voices concerns about progress (or lack thereof) on a Foundation.
* At the last openSUSE Conference Thomas Di Giacomo (SUSE Present of
Engineering and Innovation) appeared supportive, but there's not
been much progress since.
* Gerald shares his personal perspective, from his own observations,
insights into SUSE, and various conversations:
* Best way forward appears to work out a comprehensive summary and
proposal
- Why?
- How? (Foundation over eV,...)
- "Project plan"
- Requirements
- ideas on funding
* Need to share this and "sell" to SUSE.
* Axel offered to create a first draft of a summary.
Gerald (with apologies for the delay in getting this posted)
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Dear openSUSE Members,
We have set up an electronic petition on Helios for the Non-Confidence
Vote that Pierre Böckmann called for [1] on the 13th of March 2020.
The petition will end on the 14th of July 2020 at 23h59 CET. The
schedule of the petition is as follows:
- 30 June 2020
- Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & procedure
- Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list &
social media
- Ballot is open
- 14 July 2020
- Ballot is closed
- 15 July 2020
- Result is announced on the project mailing list
This information is also published on the openSUSE Wiki [2] and if
further clarification about this petition is needed please send your
questions to election-officials(a)opensuse.org.
If 20% or more of the members sign the petition (by casting a vote)
then, an election for the complete Board seats will be triggered,
otherwise an election only for one vacant seat will be triggered.
If you don't want to sign the petition, then simply ignore this email
and do not vote.
If you want to sign the petition, then follow the voting instructions
sent to you on your member email alias.
Regards,
Ish Sookun
(on behalf of the Election Committee)
[1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html
[2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Non_Confidence_Petition
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Hi folks,
A gentle reminder that nomination & application for the openSUSE Ad-hoc
Board Election is still open (and will remain so till 2 August).
Regards,
Ish Sookun
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Dear Community,
Here are the minutes for the board meeting at 2020-07-20.
These minutes are on the wiki as well. [1]
===
Meeting Notes 2020-07-20
Participants: Axel, Gerald, Marina, Vinz
Absent (excused): Simon
Minutes taken: Vinz
Agenda:
* GDPR Status Report
* Formal Complaint
* Conflict Resolution
* Meeting Minutes
* PRIVATE: Sarah
# Minutes
## GDPR Status Report
Marina reports that there is nothing new yet and she still needs to talk/sort
out some details.
## Meeting Minutes
Gerald and Marina fell behind. Drafts will be sent to the board ML and minutes
will be sent out afterwards.
* AI all: Make sure meeting minutes get finalized until end of the week where
the meeting took place.
## Formal Complaint
There were formal complaints about a member's behaviour. These complaints were
handled.
## Conflict Resolution
Moderation on mailing lists was discussed but considered not necessary
currently. The rules as stated e.g. on Discord [1] before logging in should
get adapted and be clearly visible on subscribing. The goal of this all is to
install and communicate consistent rules across all openSUSE discussion
channels.
[1] https://paste.opensuse.org/images/2bdaf2ec.png
* AI Vinz: Check how to make that technically possible on https://
lists.opensuse.org
## Next Meeting
As agreed on before the next regular meeting will be in the morning slot (for
northern hemispherics) to handle Australian DST issues. The board set up
August 4th, 8:00 CEST.
===
Cheers,
Vinz.
[1] https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2020-07-20
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