openSUSE Project July 2020

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opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list

by ITwrx

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 months, 4 weeks

openQA for s390x

by azouhr

Hi, currently, there is no openQA for s390x. I have heard that this is due to some storage issues, but that is only second hand rumours, no direct communication. For me this is kind of unfortunate, because I do care about openSUSE:Factory:zSystems, and without openQA, there is no release nor any reasonable information about the state of the distribution. During my time at SUSE, I did the Mainframe part to get openQA running, later on, when openQA had some network requirements changed, I even sponsored a Server to make that running again. However, even though I addressed this multiple times, I am not able to get information about the state, not to say get it rebuilt. Is there anyone who knows what I can do to bring this issue forward? To me, this is kind of frustrating at the moment and I think this needs broader attention. So, if you know what I could do, please tell me ... Berthold azouhr(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

3 months, 3 weeks

Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board

by Pierre Böckmann

Dear openSUSE community members, this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board. We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re- election of the openSUSE board. Reasoning: In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly harsh words on both sides. Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has never happened. Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member. Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board, 2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks before the election and the election weeks itself. Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's decision to step down, too. As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement published by Marina. As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules itself. Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead. Kind regards Pierre Böckmann P.S. Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth details. Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community. Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community elections outcome, rules and principles. Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

3 months, 3 weeks

Upcoming election to backfill a board seat

by Gerald Pfeifer

Dear openSUSE members, just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an election for that vacancy. The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election officials. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out! Gerald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

3 months, 3 weeks

openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference Will Take Place Online

by ddemaio

Hi all, I just wanted to give you an update on the conference for those of you who might not have seen it. There is also the option for a mini summit below. I'll send more information from our latest meeting once we work out the details. If you want to help with the planning of the conference, feel free to contact me. v/r Doug Organizers of the openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference <https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSLO> along with the project’s boards have made the decision to change the conference to an online conference. The uncertainty surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic and its effect on travel, conference planning, logistics and possibility for attendees to come to the event were reasons for shifting the event from a physical event to an online event. Shifting the conference online is good news and the organizers intend to provide a great conference that is filled with insightful talks, technical presentations and sessions dedicated for those who want to socialize during the event. Using video a conferencing tool, attendees learn about new technologies in openSUSE and LibreOffice and have the chance to chat to developers and ask questions. Communities involved in marketing, design, QA and other topics will be able to meet online, catch up and exchange ideas. The Call for Papers (CfP) will remain open and people can continue to submit their talks until July 21. The submissions for the CfP will continue to take place on the Open Source Event Manager (OSEM) instance at https://events.opensuse.org. The collection of submissions will be organized in the OSEM tool, but the online event will take place on a different website site like the one recently used for the openSUSE Virtual Summit – https://opensuse.reqmagic.com. The platform works with Firefox, Chromium and other open-source browsers. The software leverages various APIs (YouTube, Dolby, etc) to enable web based service, which is entirely HTML5 based with no plugins required. More information can be found at https://news.opensuse.org/2020/06/02/opensuse-libreoffice-conference-will-t… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

3 months, 3 weeks

Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-06-24

by Gerald Pfeifer

Present: Axel, Marina, Gerald, Vinz Guest: Doug (first topic) Excused: Simon == The Teams of openSUSE == * An idea was brought up to introduce the various teams we have in openSUSE, similar to the contributor interviews from the past. * Why? Share some of the goodness and options to contribute we have at openSUSE. * https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams was pointed out as an overview, alas some teams are missing. But it's a good start, and this is a good initiative per se and to help build out that page. * Side question: Do we want to propose to have the individual reports somewhere on suse.com in addition to opensuse.org? * Initial thought is to focus on opensuse.org and see whether we can do a summary/compilation blog with references on in the suse.com communities blog instead (to increase awareness for openSUSE from that angle). * This is not meant to replace or compete with "people of openSUSE" interviews, rather to complement. * Some concerns that not all teams/team members might be interested in this kind of publicity, but: never try, never know. == openSUSE Conference and GDPR == * Marina, Doug, and Ciaran (from SUSE Legal) are working together on GDPR related topics around the openSUSE Conference, which should also prove useful for openSUSE in general and a base for work on a Foundation. == Status of Foundation? == * Axel voices concerns about progress (or lack thereof) on a Foundation. * At the last openSUSE Conference Thomas Di Giacomo (SUSE Present of Engineering and Innovation) appeared supportive, but there's not been much progress since. * Gerald shares his personal perspective, from his own observations, insights into SUSE, and various conversations: * Best way forward appears to work out a comprehensive summary and proposal - Why? - How? (Foundation over eV,...) - "Project plan" - Requirements - ideas on funding * Need to share this and "sell" to SUSE. * Axel offered to create a first draft of a summary. Gerald (with apologies for the delay in getting this posted) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

3 months, 4 weeks

Non-Confidence Petition

by Ish Sookun

Dear openSUSE Members, We have set up an electronic petition on Helios for the Non-Confidence Vote that Pierre Böckmann called for [1] on the 13th of March 2020. The petition will end on the 14th of July 2020 at 23h59 CET. The schedule of the petition is as follows: - 30 June 2020 - Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & procedure - Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list & social media - Ballot is open - 14 July 2020 - Ballot is closed - 15 July 2020 - Result is announced on the project mailing list This information is also published on the openSUSE Wiki [2] and if further clarification about this petition is needed please send your questions to election-officials(a)opensuse.org. If 20% or more of the members sign the petition (by casting a vote) then, an election for the complete Board seats will be triggered, otherwise an election only for one vacant seat will be triggered. If you don't want to sign the petition, then simply ignore this email and do not vote. If you want to sign the petition, then follow the voting instructions sent to you on your member email alias. Regards, Ish Sookun (on behalf of the Election Committee) [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Non_Confidence_Petition -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

4 months

Nominations for the openSUSE Ad-hoc Board Election

by Ish Sookun

Hi folks, A gentle reminder that nomination & application for the openSUSE Ad-hoc Board Election is still open (and will remain so till 2 August). Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

4 months

Board Meeting Minutes 2020-07-20

by Vinzenz Vietzke

Dear Community, Here are the minutes for the board meeting at 2020-07-20. These minutes are on the wiki as well. [1] === Meeting Notes 2020-07-20 Participants: Axel, Gerald, Marina, Vinz Absent (excused): Simon Minutes taken: Vinz Agenda: * GDPR Status Report * Formal Complaint * Conflict Resolution * Meeting Minutes * PRIVATE: Sarah # Minutes ## GDPR Status Report Marina reports that there is nothing new yet and she still needs to talk/sort out some details. ## Meeting Minutes Gerald and Marina fell behind. Drafts will be sent to the board ML and minutes will be sent out afterwards. * AI all: Make sure meeting minutes get finalized until end of the week where the meeting took place. ## Formal Complaint There were formal complaints about a member's behaviour. These complaints were handled. ## Conflict Resolution Moderation on mailing lists was discussed but considered not necessary currently. The rules as stated e.g. on Discord [1] before logging in should get adapted and be clearly visible on subscribing. The goal of this all is to install and communicate consistent rules across all openSUSE discussion channels. [1] https://paste.opensuse.org/images/2bdaf2ec.png * AI Vinz: Check how to make that technically possible on https:// lists.opensuse.org ## Next Meeting As agreed on before the next regular meeting will be in the morning slot (for northern hemispherics) to handle Australian DST issues. The board set up August 4th, 8:00 CEST. === Cheers, Vinz. [1] https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2020-07-20 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

4 months

systemd 234? what the literal eff you cee kay?

by Mathias Homann

OK, who decided to stick with a THREE YEAR OLD systemd in Leap 15.2, and why? There are open bugs in that version that have been fixed TWO YEARS AGO. Asking for advice about that kind of stuff upstream is just plain old embarrassing! Can I safely replace that with the up to date systemd from factory? Cheers Mathias -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann(a)openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy(a)tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102

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