Too long; didn't read
I feel we are all
getting a little carried away and having too much fun
doing so.. :) It is not bad, but let's not get carried away too far...
Without the intention to start a flame war, those
under (lets say) 30
different way of working.
I 100% agree with this statement, I myself are at the edge of these two
demographics (32 or 33 y.o. who cares?), but notice that the corporate
world has adjusted to this new phenomena, and we as an open-source
community will have to do it also.
If you feel that one of the IM is your tool, go for
it. If you are able to handle a mail client (and webmailers are no proper
clients) you enjoy a very efficient, structured way of
(including mailing lists). That helps time boxing as
Sure, but the attention span (jole alert) of a zoomer is 150 characters or
whatever the Twitter limit is nowadays, so do they really need email for
that? BTW I am using a webmail client, because I have the feeling that, and
we have been pushing it in the corporate side for a while now, that
emails are either one-to-one, one-to-few or multicast tools as we've seen
newcomers struggle (even those of my own age above 30 who have not been
involved in projects before) with this way of communication, so I have
adapted to that workflow style.
So let's sum-up (from my perspective),
arguing what is better or not is pointless,
reality is what it is, the platforms used by young newcomers (where I
believe we want to recruit talent from users to contributors in that
demographic) are mainly IM based, for the forums, Reddit is slowly taking
over (I am not cheering, I am just saying) , what our objective should be
is to identify talent, turn them into contributors and find a communication
platform that will work for silver surfers, OGs, and zoomers... it is a
challenge, but if we won't do it, eventually our contributors population is
going to age and well...
...you hear that from your politicians whenever they talk about pension
reform where that leads to... unlike pension systems we probably won't have
the luxury of highly increased productivity from automation, as we already
are highly automated...
So the challenge here is as I see it:
a) identifying talent on channels many of us don't like to use, I myself am
fine with Discord and Reddit, others may be comfortable with Telegram style
IM, TBH in my days of XMPP we used it just for 1:1 IMs and I plan to
continue doing so, besides Signal is better for that anyway
b) turning them into contributors
c) agreeing on a set of tools and policies that will empower all
demographics to be *somewhat* comfortable and productive at the same time,
I just feel that the differences in working styles among these demographics
is so wide, that one forcing the other to adapt "their way" is not feasible
anymore for growing projects... young people come to OSS for experience,
with Discord we give them the feel of Slack - which frankly will probably
be something they will be using at their day-job after they finish studies
(or who know what will be the new killer app in 5 years), that is the
reality, I miss IRC as much as the other guy, but times have changed...
For instance when it comes to mailing lists, I think we will have more
success in that younger demographic if we also explain the way web
interface for mailing-lists such as
used... because of the way e-mail is perceived these days as I
For me open-source has always been about freedom to innovate, and ability
to learn and gain experience, grow, including experience on how to
effectively work within a larger team... I will (have) adopt(ed) just fine,
but younger folks may have trouble with it initially, and it would be a
shame to "push them away" just because of that...
Best regards / S pozdravem,
BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA
Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group
mobile: +420 704 373 561