January 2012 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/) it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/) and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/) it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] talk at or visit Linux Open Administration Days
by Jos Poortvliet 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Hi all, April 16-17 in Antwerp, Belgium, the Linux Open Administration Days will take place. This free event offers a chance for LPI certification as well as meeting and talking to linux sysadmins. There is a call for presentations here: http://www.loadays.org/content/call-presentations If you want to go and give a talk there about openSUSE tech - that's be awesome. If you can't afford to go there due to travel or hotel costs, let me know, we might be able to work something out ;-) cheers, Jos

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[opensuse-project] CLT in Chemnitz 17./18. March 2012
by Kai-Uwe Behrmann 22 Feb '12

22 Feb '12

Anyone interessted to organise the openSUSE booth and bring green covers, LiveCDs and all the fun? I will present openSUSE colour management on a Oyranos booth and want to measure devices. kind regards Kai-Uwe -- www.oyranos.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Indiana Linux Fest
by Bryen M Yunashko 05 Feb '12

05 Feb '12

I am currently making arrangements to secure a booth for the Indiana Linux Fest held in Indianapolis on April 13-15. If you are in the area and would like to join in the openSUSE festivities, please let me know so we can coordinate plans together. :-) Also, Call for Papers is currently open until February 7th. If you'd like to submit a talk, the link is: http://www.indianalinux.org/cms/speaker_app Look forward to meeting all of you there soon! Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project Marketing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] First Planning Meeting for openSUSE @ SUSECon
by Bryen M Yunashko 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

We are launching the Kickoff meeting to plan for the openSUSE Conference following SUSECon. This conference will be held in Orlando, Florida September 21-23. Meeting Information: #openSUSE-Project Freenode IRC Channel [1] Wednesday - 1 February, 2012 18:00 UTC (1 p.m. Eastern/10 a.m. Pacific) [2] Now what?: Please visit the wiki page which outlines our agenda, tasks and open questions. [3] Who should attend the kickoff meeting?: We strongly encourage people from US, Canada, Mexico and Central America to participate in the planning. We also encourage people from other parts of the world who may or may not attend but still have valuable 2 cents to contribute to the planning. :-) See you on Wednesday! Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project [1] irc://freenode.net/#opensuse-project [2] Local Time http://bit.ly/AoLcg6 [3] Wiki Page: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSECon_Planning -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SOPA blackout - I don't think openSUSE ought to be making political statements.
by Per Jessen 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

Just my opinion - I think openSUSE should stay far away from politics of any kind. It doesn't matter whether it might affect the project or not. If we had seen a discussion of SOPA on opensuse-general or -factory, it would have been fairly quickly relegated to opensuse-offtopic. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-2.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Membership
by Robert Schweikert 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

All, During today's project meeting a discussion about openSUSE membership started, see earlier posts to the list for meeting minutes. While we have documented procedures (http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members) on how to become a member, we do not have any guidelines about what it means to be a member in good standing. Additionally, the only way to get pruned from the list of members is to repeatedly violate the guiding principals or actively request removal. I am suggesting that the conditions for loss of membership are not sufficient. As briefly discussed in the meeting today we have about 500 or so members. Also in a recent meeting it was suggested that we have a large contingent of non active members. This would then explain why we end up with only 200 and some odd votes of 500 members for the board elections. As probably anyone who is a member of some club or association knows, there is always some condition, often a fee, that assures continued membership in said club or association. No I am NOT proposing a membership fee for openSUSE. However, I am proposing that we come up with a mechanism to prune our list of members and that there is no such thing as a "free" (as in I don't contribute) life time membership. I propose the following guideline: " On even years of membership anniversary (that would be year 2, 4, 6...) a member gets an automated e-mail. - If the e-mail bounces and there is no other means to contact the person than the person is removed as a member. - If the person does not respond within two weeks, another e-mail is sent. If after 2 additional weeks no response is received the person is removed as a member. A response to the received e-mail should include a short list of areas in the project where the member was active during the past two years. This can be verified by the membership team. With the response and verification membership continues. " I realize I am proposing more work for the membership committee, sorry. However, I would hope that this is not too much of a burden. With maybe 300 or fewer active members there would be on average less than 1 verification e-mail per day sent. In addition this is spread out based on anniversary date of membership, thus the additional verification should be small. Why would we as a project want to do this? IMHO, it is important that our members are active and contribute to the project. There is nothing gained for us as a project to accumulate a large number of members when the members are not active in the project and do not contribute. Having only members that are active also bestows more meaning on board election results and other votes we might have in the project. This goes back to my earlier comment and leads to a question, what does it mean when the board gets elected with a vote count that is less than 50% of the membership? (I am not implying that I am dissatisfied with the board). No direct answer to this question please. If we have only active project participants I would speculate that we will get participation of 80% or more. Last but not least this should create a perceived draw to become a member, as you can only be a member and remain a member if you contribute to the project. For the discussion, I'd like to ask that people stick to the topic and not go off on some tangent ;) I have added this as a topic to the next project meeting (Feb 8, 2012) and will provide a summary of the discussion on the wiki. The board can then make a decision on how to move forward on this proposal based on the summary, and hopefully board members will be following this thread. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Dream openSUSE Initiative
by Richard Brown 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hi Andi, I'm curious, what exactly is the intended goal of this initiative? If it is about changing the default settings in an effort to improve usability, how do you intend to implement any changes which are identified as necessary by this initiative? Doesn't this seem to be a little weird coming from the artwork team? To me, default settings of a desktop environment is probably something better investigated and implemented by the various maintainers of openSUSE's different environments. I really do not like the idea of KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE, etc all sharing common defaults without very good reason and acceptance of all the teams involved. We have different environments for a reason, they attract different users with different needs, we should embrace those differences. I know in the GNOME team for example, we spend a lot of time discussing and collaboratively deciding on what we believe to be the best range of settings for our users, based on our own knowledge of the environment as well as user feedback. An initiative like this seems to be treading on the toes of the work already done by our GNOME, KDE, and other DE maintainers. Furthermore, some of the 'proposals' already on the wiki look like they're calling for some pretty major work (new notifications?), who do you foresee picking up and doing this sort of work? are we likely to be able to get such changes submitted upstream? I don't mean to sound like I'm slamming this, I'm know you're trying to do something cool and help out, but I'm very confused how the art team is expecting to carry this initiative forward.. apologies for clearly not understanding the proposal when it was raised in our team meeting and now having to bring my confusion to the mailing lists Richard >>> andi robert 01/30/12 7:24 PM >>> Hello my dear friends The artwork team recently had a meeting in which a couple of ideas were proposed. One of them is the Dream openSUSE Initiative. The idea behind this proposal is to have a wider understanding of what a desktop environment is for each of our users. All of us work with openSUSE and many time we tweak and change our graphical environments to fit our particular needs, we would like to know about these changes that you have made to your graphical environment under openSUSE to better determine what defaults work for our users. We are currently gathering these screenshots here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Dreamopensuse The steps to be part of this investigative initiative are as follow Set up your computer desktop they way you want it Take a screeshot Submit your screenshot at our wiki Note: If your changes, settings or tweaks are not readily visible, show us a screenshot of your settings managers or explain the settings changes that you have made. This initiative is not about artwork as much as it is about usability among our members. Therefore, when submitting screenshots, make sure that your special usability settings are also noticeable. Note: The wiki page is not perfect, of you feel inclined to make changes to it, please do so. :D Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: distromatch and debtags at Fosdem
by Jos Poortvliet 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

For those at FOSDEM and interested in cross-distro things, see below. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: distromatch and debtags at Fosdem Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 16:13:09 From: Enrico Zini <enrico(a)enricozini.org> To: distributions(a)lists.freedesktop.org Hello, I will be giving two talks in the cross-distribution room at Fosdem which I would like to turn into actions. I'm posting here a summary of my talks and what I wish would follow from them. If you think the goal is worthwile / would like to take care of it, please join the talks and help make it happen: http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/distromatch "I wrote Distromatch, shall we use it?" Saturday, room H.1301, 18:15--19:00 I'd like to create a loosely coupled group, with at least one person per distribution, with two goals: 1. keep distromatch (the python command line tool and the data exports) working and accurate; 2. use it to improve one's own distribution by "stealing" data from all the others. http://fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/debtags_reloaded Debtags.debian.net reloaded! Sunday, room H.1302, 10:00--11:00 I'd like to see other distributions adopt debtags. A starter dataset can already be exported over distromatch. If one wants to go further, the whole debtags.debian.net django app should be easily re-themable and deployable for other non-debian distributions: I can show how. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico(a)enricozini.org> -----------------------------------------

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[opensuse-project] Dream openSUSE Initiative
by andi robert 31 Jan '12

31 Jan '12

Hello my dear friends The artwork team recently had a meeting in which a couple of ideas were proposed. One of them is the Dream openSUSE Initiative. The idea behind this proposal is to have a wider understanding of what a desktop environment is for each of our users. All of us work with openSUSE and many time we tweak and change our graphical environments to fit our particular needs, we would like to know about these changes that you have made to your graphical environment under openSUSE to better determine what defaults work for our users. We are currently gathering these screenshots here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Dreamopensuse The steps to be part of this investigative initiative are as follow Set up your computer desktop they way you want it Take a screeshot Submit your screenshot at our wiki Note: If your changes, settings or tweaks are not readily visible, show us a screenshot of your settings managers or explain the settings changes that you have made. This initiative is not about artwork as much as it is about usability among our members. Therefore, when submitting screenshots, make sure that your special usability settings are also noticeable. Note: The wiki page is not perfect, of you feel inclined to make changes to it, please do so. :D Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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