December 2018 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] How we will use the GSoC money
by Vincent Untz 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Hi, (let's see how a public discussion about money goes :-)) The Google Summer of Code brings us great students, but also means that the openSUSE project will get $8000 (if I'm not mistaken) at the end of the summer. That's $500 per student. A while ago, I requested comments on my blog about what to do with the money, but didn't get any feedback. So I take this as "do what you feel is best", and this mail is about the plan. As a reminder, the main issue is that we will likely not have the openSUSE Foundation created in time for this. For instance, Google would like us to get some form filled before the end of June; this is not a mandatory timeline, but I think it shows that we won't be ready with the Foundation for that. The current plan is to give that money to another organization we feel close to, and I have two candidates in mind: - the Software Freedom Conservancy (http://sfconservancy.org/): it's a really nice org that provides a home for various cool projects (see http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/), and those projects help make openSUSE a great project. - the Desktop Summit (https://www.desktopsummit.org/): it's one of the biggest event this year, and this would help us have some more visibility (since we'd be sponsors, I guess). I'm sure they would welcome this to secure their budget. Note that an alternative solution would be to leave the money to Google for a future GSoC or similar program, but I feel it's better to use the money where it can make a difference today. Now, it's not too late to change the plan. If you have a better suggestion, please tell us. There's no need to argue forever about it, just explain why you think it's good. Keep in mind that if we cannot receive the money ourselves, this also means that we cannot use it to buy stuff for openSUSE. Pavol and I will take the final decision since we are the GSoC admins for openSUSE. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE at Chaos Communication Congress
by ddemaio 27 Dec '18

27 Dec '18

Hi all, I wanted to let you all know that openSUSE will have a lounge at this year's Chaos Communication Congress. Please consider stopping by and relaxing with the openSUSE members that will be in attendance. If you have any questions, please reply to this thread. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] GSoC: call for mentors
by Ana Martínez 21 Dec '18

21 Dec '18

Hi! Google has already announced Google Summer of Code 2019[1] and, as you may have read in the last blog post in news[2], openSUSE is looking for mentors and organization admins that would like to help bringing new programmers to our community. We need at least one more organization admin and several projects openSUSE related to be able to participate. The application period for organizations is open from January 15 to February 6, so if you would like to participate as an organization admin please get in touch with Hernán, Christian or me by January 20. For mentors, the limit to create an issue with your project(s) in the mentoring page[3] is January 31. If you want more information about the program and what openSUSE has been doing, check out last blog posts[4], our mentoring page[5], Google’s Mentor Guide[6] and the "Google Summer of Code: Organizations Apply" video[7]. Regards, Ana [1] - https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline [2] - https://news.opensuse.org/2018/12/21/21411 [3] - https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues/new [4] - https://news.opensuse.org/category/project/mentoring/gsoc [5] - https://101.opensuse.org [6] - https://google.github.io/gsocguides/mentor [7] - https://youtu.be/L4JNz6zWzLs -- Ana María Martínez Gómez https://anamaria.martinezgomez.name -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC19 Meeting Week 4
by ddemaio 18 Dec '18

18 Dec '18

Hi all, We will have the Week 4 meeting for the openSUSE Conference 2019 this evening, Dec. 18 at 18:00 UTC on the opensuse-project channel on freenode IRC. Below are the meeting notes from previous meetings. v/r Doug Links: Trello board - https://trello.com/b/xhSviOKO Week 1 - https://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2018/opensuse-proj… Week 2 - http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2018/opensuse-proje… Week 3 - http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2018/opensuse-proje… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 2018-12-04 board meeting minutes
by Christian Boltz 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hello, here are the board meeting minutes of Dec 4, 2018. One of the items mentioned below was (finally ;-) already done: The membership rules were updated - I'm sure you've seen Richard's mail about that some days ago. = Attendees = All board members = openFATE = openFATE will be shut down in some weeks. ACTION: Richard will send an announcement/reminder mail with the shutdown date (at least 1 week before actual shutdown), so that people have a last chance to backup (or implement!) a feature request = Election committee = We discussed some questions the election committee asked. ACTION: Ana will send them an answer. = Membership rules = The board decided on new rules how to become an openSUSE Member at the face2face meeting in May, which make becoming an openSUSE Member much easier. In the following discussion on the openSUSE Conference and the project mailinglist, everybody agreed with that change. However, the wiki page was never updated. The board voted unanimously that the new membership rules should be applied now. (Sarah and Christian didn't vote because of a possible conflict of interest.) ACTION Richard will write the updated rules, send the draft to the board (except Sarah and Christian to avoid a possible conflict of interest), and then update the wiki page. ACTION: Richard will write to the election committee and explain our decision. ACTION: Richard will write to the membership committee and ask them to apply the updated rules. He'll also ask which membership officials are still active. = Merge board election rules and membership rules = The board wants to merge the election rules and membership rules into one "government document". This won't change the rules, it will only move all of them into one document / wiki page. The merge will be done as a separate change, after the membership rules were updated. = Next meetings = The next board meeting will be 2018-12-11, then we'll do a christmas break (but still read and answer mails). The first meeting in 2019 will be 2019-01-08. Regards, Christian Boltz -- BTW mission statement sounds a bit like at the beginning of this century. Why do we need such crap anyhow at all? Since ages the main motivation to use a SUSE based system is written down in /etc/motd :) [Lars Müller in opensuse-factory] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 2018-2019 Board Elections
by election-officials＠opensuse.org 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

2018-2019 Board Elections underway. Call for Candidates. Membership Drive <url>https://news.opensuse.org/2018/12/13/2018-2019-elections-underway-with-call…</url> -- from: The Elections Committee: M. Edwin Zakaria Ish Sookun Gerry Makaro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] New xfce unstable repository for preview and testing
by Maurizio Galli (MauG) 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Dear Geekos, A new Xfce repository for the unstable release of Xfce Desktop Environment is now available for openSUSE: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/X11:xfce:rat RAT is the acronym for "Released After Today", meaning the future release of Xfce. In a more playful way, a rat is meant to represent the unpolished nature of this release: a rat is scruffy looking compared to a mouse (the cute and beloved mascot of Xfce) . The goal of this project is to test and preview the new software so that bugs can be spotted and fixed ahead of time by contributing upstream. The software in this repository is from Xfce Git Master Branch thus meant for development and testing only. Because commits are frequent and bugs/regressions are very likely, its use in production devices is strongly discouraged. We hope you'll have fun with it and anyone is welcome to contribute to it if wishes to do so! Cheers, -- Maurizio Galli (MauG) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board meeting minutes of Nov 13, 2018
by Ana Martínez 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

Board meeting minutes of Nov 13, 2018. You can also find them in the Wiki: https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2018-11-13 Enjoy reading! ;) = Attendees = Complete = openSUSE.Asia budget = Although the board requested that SUSE increase their sponsorship of the openSUSE.Asia Summit for next year (discussed the meeting of 21 August[1]), SUSE is currently not able to do so. It is already confirmed that the budget will remain the same. The Board will revisit this situation with SUSE after their impending independence. ACTION: Simon confirms with next year organizers that they handle the money with an official account = GSoC money = It seems it is possible to donate the GSoC money (in contrast to what thought on the meeting of 21 August[1]). The board waits for more information about this topic. = Unanswered email of offended person = The person has already been answered in private and the issue is considered by most board members as resolved. = Elections update = We already have an election committee and information of what their “job” is has been sent to them. The board expect the committee to work autonomously and is not going to get involved in any way. = Conflict in mailing list = It was agreed that getting in touch with the people involved may help ACTION: Richard contacts involved person/s = Thank you email = Send email from the board to thank sponsors[2]. ACTION: Gertjan writes a draft for review and send the emails afterwards = Copyright request = We spoke about a copyright request to verify everybody had the same understanding. There was nothing to decide or vote at this stage as we are still waiting on the other party involved. Regards, Ana [1] - https://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Board_meeting_2018-08-21 [2] - https://news.opensuse.org/2018/11/06/marvell-tuxedo-computers-sponsor-opens… -- Ana María Martínez Gómez https://anamaria.martinezgomez.name -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Membership Process Documentation Updated
by Richard Brown 09 Dec '18

09 Dec '18

Dear Project, For those who may not know, openSUSE Members are those contributors who have rights to vote in openSUSE Board elections or other votes requiring a formal decision by the Project as a whole. At this years annual Face to Face Board meeting, the Board decided to change the rules related to the Membership eligibility and approval process, based on the proposal and feedback from this thread in February https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2018-02/msg00015.html We announced the change at the openSUSE Conference, and are aware that at least some of the Membership Officials have been conducting their business since aligned with the new rules. However, as part of their job in preparing for the upcoming elections, our Election Committee noted that the documentation on our wiki was inconsistent and out-of-date with these decisions. They were, very rightly, uncomfortable with conducting the elections with any ambiguity regarding our membership process. As the Board Member who was intended to update those pages, I'd like to apologise to my colleagues on the Board, the Election team, and the Project as a whole for dropping the ball on this one. As an Election committee has been formed and elections are upcoming, normally the Board would stay well away from involving itself in anything to do with Elections and/or Membership. This is to avoid any conflicts of interest and preserve the integrity of the elction, as it is the Membership who elect the Board, and it's entirely possible current Board members might seek re-election in the upcoming election. However, to rectify this situation I have now updated the appropriate places on the Wiki https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Membership_officials#Process To summarise the changes to the Membership Rules * Contributors can become Members once they have contributed to the Project in a measurable way and requested Membership * Members remain Members as long as they wish, but inactive Members will be sent annual reminders to see whether they wish to remain a member. * Retired Members in good standing become "Members Emeritus" and retain all the Perks of being a Member, besides voting and eligibility to run for the openSUSE Board. The changes to the process followed by the Membership Officials are as follows * Applicants now only require 1 positive and 0 negative votes from the Membership Officials to become a Member * Acceptances/Rejections should be done by a different Official than the first voting (so in essence, 2 positive votes are required, with an opportunity for objections to be raised) * Disputed decisions require Membership Officials to discuss amongst themselves before rejecting. Deadlocked decisions can be escalated to the Board. * We hope to replace connect.opensuse.org. Any contributions/ideas from anyone are welcome (WE NEED HELP). Replacing connect.o.o presents an opportunity to add layers of automation to streamline this process, such as automatically verifying contributions and ongoing activity to prevent the need to send annual reminders. While the above has been long discussed, partly announced, and significant parts of the Project have been operating under the new rules, the Board recognises that this could be seen as changing the rules right before an election. This situation was discussed during this weeks Board meeting, during which the Board decided to go ahead with these changes. To avoid any conflicts of interest, the 2 potentially conflicted Board members who may stand for re-election in the upcoming election were not allowed to vote on this decision. This decision was however passed by all 4 of the remaining Board members. This unanimous decision by the remainder of the Board constitutes a 2/3rds majority which is required to amend our election rules (https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules#Amendment:) This should hopefully negate any concerns that this documentation of our previous decisions is not intended to impact the upcoming election, but is a necessary action by the Board to enable the Election Committee to go forward as they see fit. All of these actions have been discussed with and approved by our Election Committee, and this announcement can be seen as a joint statement from both the Board and the Election Committee. Regards, Richard Brown openSUSE Chairman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] New members running for board
by Vinzenz Vietzke 06 Dec '18

06 Dec '18

Hi all, as far as I can see the "new" membership process is still under rework. As there are three board seats open and people needed to fill them (and do the work included) I wanted to know: Is joining openSUSE and directly running for board something totally inappropriate? Or would it be worth the work stepping up and writing some words of intentions and plans? Would be great to hear you thoughts. Regards, vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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