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[opensuse-project] openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 7 Released
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

The openSUSE Project is happy to announce that the openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 7 (M7) is available for download[1]. This release includes GNOME 2.28 beta 2, KDE 4.3.1, RPM 4.7.1, and much more. This is a Milestone Release, one of several that lead up to the 11.2 final release in November. It may not be suitable for production systems, but is ready for contributors who want to help with testing and development for 11.2. This release is of "beta" quality, and would have been labeled a beta in past openSUSE development cycles. Changes Since openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 6 ============================================ Milestone 7 includes an initial version of the YaST2 installer theme, new KDE theming, is built with RPM 4.7.1, and adds the "--download-only" option for several Zypper commands. And, of course, it includes many updated packages: * Linux kernel 2.6.31-rc9 * Valgrind 3.5 * Samba 3.4.0 * Evolution 2.27.91 * OpenOffice.org 3.1.1 RC 1 * Gwibber 1.2 A more complete list can be found on the wiki[2] and an updated list of Factory packages can be found on DistroWatch[3]. 11.2 is looking fantastic. Want screenshots? We've got 'em! Check out the shots here[4], and/or add your own. Most Annoying Bugs ====================== As this is a milestone release, 11.2 M7 does contain a few bugs that we know about, but should not stand between courageous contributors and release testing. The big bugs in 11.2 M7 are: * grub and bootsplash still use 11.1 artwork * Bug 537343:[5] GNOME live system asks for root password to mount * Bug 537470:[6] GNOME YaST Control Center cannot be started You can track the Most Annoying Bugs on the wiki[7] along with 11.2 development. Testing! Testing! Testing! ============================== As you can see, 11.2 M7 does have a few bugs that we know about -- but there may be more lurking somewhere in the release that haven't been found yet. If you want to make sure 11.2 final is free of Most Annoying Bugs, we'll need your help finding, reporting, and fixing those hidden bugs. To learn more about testing openSUSE, visit the Testing[8] pages on the openSUSE wiki. To follow the testing and development process, we suggest that you subscribe to the openSUSE-Factory mailing list, and join the #openSUSE- Factory channel on Freenode to discuss openSUSE development. Get Milestone 7 Today! ========================== What are you waiting for? Grab the milestone release today! Downloads are available at software.opensuse.org/developer/[9] now. Note, if you need to try the live CD on a machine with no CD-ROM drive, you can copy it to a USB key with the following command: dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M Replace "image.iso" with the name of the ISO image that you have downloaded, and replace "sdX" with the actual device name of your USB drive. Be careful! This will erase the target device, so make sure you have the correct device name and have any vital data backed up! The next milestone is scheduled to be released on October 1, 2009. A reminder: only one more milestone release is planned for 11.2, followed by two release candidate (RC) releases. See the detailed roadmap on the on the wiki[10]. [1]: http://software.opensuse.org/developer [2]: http://en.opensuse.org/Factory/News [3]: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse [4]: http://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots/11.2_Milestones [5]: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537343 [6]: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537470 [7]: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.2_dev [8]: http://en.opensuse.org/Testing/ [9]: http://software.opensuse.org/developer/ [10]: http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.2 -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Conference: Demo Points on Saturday
by Jan Weber 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Hi, as the conference is getting a closer and we are looking forward to it, there are still some things that need a little bit help. The Open Day on Saturday will be the day for all who are interested in openSUSE and Free Software to drop by and get information about all this. There will be 4 Demo Points in the entrance area, for users to take a look at openSUSE, this Points need some people to drive them: So sign up and help with the demo points[1]. Thanks for your help! Cheers Jan [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Conf_2009_Demo_Booths

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[opensuse-project] Power Outage
by ml-admin＠opensuse.org 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

Broadcast message from ml-admin(a)opensuse.org (/dev/pts/0) at 07:30 GMT ... The system is going down for halt NOW! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] I will use the CIVS service for the choosing of the name.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

Hello, I really like Condorcet Internet Voting Service (CIVS) http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html I want to use it in choosing the name. I would like to have the choice done and have someone annouce it at the openSUSE Conference (Sep 17-20). So I will take all names and add them to the service. I envision having all entries by the Sep 8. Starting the voting on Sep 9 and ending on Sep 16. My question is who should be allowed to vote? Just memeber of the openSUSE community or having a registration page (location TBD) where I will take all the names and email addresses. What do you think the critera for this voting should be? I have used CIVS in the past and I think it is the best way to get the top 5 names and use them in the order the voting provides. I want to be able to make sure the name will not infringe on any copyright, trademark, or ... We will go down the list till we find one that does not violate any of it. Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Four options for the openSUSE LTS/openSLES initiative currently.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

There are basically four options. From the new wiki I set up on http://www.zenez.com/mediawiki/openSLE-openSUSE_LTS-wiki/index.php5/Overvie… They are as follows. 1. openSUSE [4] Server CD Server Edition, somewhat alike the GNOME and KDE media https://features.opensuse.org/305664. 2. openSUSE [5] LTS longer term security and support, community driven complete release. 3. openSUSE [6] LTS subset (a reduced core of openSUSE[7]) with mainly Server SW. 4. openSLES a CentOS equivalent for SLES[8] based on SUSE Linux Enterprise[9]. I see only 1, 3, 4 as really possible given the current people that have said they are willing to work on the options. >From personal emails to me on options 3 and 4. It currently stands as 23/23. Option 3 could be done on the OBS in league with factory. Option 1 needed a community maintainer/s. As per openFATE. https://features.opensuse.org/305664 I hope this clears up what I see as the options currently available. [4,5,6,7] http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org [8] http://www.novell.com/products/server/ [9] http://www.novell.com/linux/ Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Reminder: openSUSE Project Meeting Wednesday September 9, 2009 at 12:00 UTC
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

The next openSUSE Project meeting will take place tomorrow (Wednesday September 9th) at 12:00 UTC. See all time zones on the Fixed Time World Clock[1]. As always, the meeting will be held in IRC on the #opensuse-project channel on Freenode. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Project_Meeting_2009-09-09 Please add topics as soon as possible. Also, if you have questions for the meeting, but can't attend (we know that the meeting times can't work for everyone) please add them to the agenda as well. We also take live questions, of course. For more on IRC meetings, see: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About. As always, we meet in #opensuse-project on Freenode. Fire up your favorite IRC client and head over to #opensuse-project. Not familiar with IRC? A good overview can be found at irchelp.org. This site is not affiliated with openSUSE. For more information on Freenode, see http://freenode.net/. Wondering what meeting times are? Check the openSUSE Meetings page[5]. All project meetings and team meetings should be listed there. [1]: http://is.gd/32PXK [2]: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Naming of the new group/project and other stuff maybe at the conference.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

Hello, After talking with a few people I would like to solicit ideas for a new name for our openSLES project. The driving factor for this is to avoid confusion with SLES. It will also allow us to avoid any conflicts with copyright, trademark and branding. So put on your hats and assist us with comping up with a new name. Also, I would like to request that maybe someone could bring up the subject of forming this group at the up comming SUSE conference. This is our chance for those attending to discuss what we may do to be able to have one voice to talk to Novell. I think that maybe using the new name could assist us in having a larger group of people joined together that will have enough buying power to be heard by the upper Novell management. I think this is a good topic for discussion at the conference. I hope we may find someone that is attending the conference to chapion it. Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] New Start Ups and Systems (SLES)
by member greenarrow1 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

Looking at the world economic situation and a shortage of developers, not only with openSUSE but other distros this is really a bad time to be trying to develop a new system. Companies and people are just not spending and a change over to a new system even if free still would cost money when most corporations are looking at ways to cut expenses, not add more by changing over to a new system. Individuals are doing their best just to retain their current job or jobs plus maintaining what they are working on for whichever Linux system they are currently involved with. Adding to this at the current time would create further hardships on all. I am not stating adding SLES is a bad idea but at the current time it just might be hard starting this up to where it will lead to success down the road. People to include developers are facing hardships and this idea in better times would attract a lot more developers and people of interest than trying to create a system when financial problems beset most of the world. I am not against starting SLES but we all need to look ahead and make sure we have the ability to support this in the future. It is fine to select names but do we have the actual real time support to keep this going until the end, have support to maintain the system once it is finalized? Another words, do we have the base to support this entire idea and to further maintain it? PeterPac InNetInvestigations-Forensic SLED/openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSLE-openSUSE_LTS-wiki and list of current names proposed.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

Hello All, Here is the wiki I have started http://www.zenez.com/mediawiki/openSLE-openSUSE_LTS-wiki/ and all the proposed names are on the wiki at... http://www.zenez.com/mediawiki/openSLE-openSUSE_LTS-wiki/index.php5/OpenSLE… -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> 801 849-0213 ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Decision made - openFATE feature 306967, KDE default
by Michael Loeffler 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

Hi all, the topic of a "default desktop" was raised in July as a feature[1] in our openFATE feature tracking system by a community member, and it was a subject of a lively debate within openFATE and on the openSUSE Project mailing list[2]. The default desktop is an issue that many openSUSE users and contributors are passionate about. After consideration of the project discussion I discussed the feature request further with the openSUSE Board and other leaders within the openSUSE project and came to the decision to follow the request: we will default the radio button to KDE in the DVD installer. Therefore, with openSUSE 11.2 release, the KDE desktop will be installed if the user accepts the default setting. Users can also choose the GNOME desktop at this stage. We want to make clear that both desktops are considered equal citizens within the openSUSE Project, and this will not have any impact on the quality of the GNOME desktop within openSUSE. GNOME will continue to be offered as a top- level installation choice, and we will continue to strive to provide the best GNOME and KDE desktop experience. Thanks to everyone for conducting the conversation in a professional and courteous manner and for the quality of feedback we've received. This shows the strength of our community, and it's good to know we can address the tough issues head on and remain focused on the project goals. Best Michael [1] https://features.opensuse.org/306967 [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-08/ -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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