openSUSE Project August 2020

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-08-18

by Gerald Pfeifer

Present: Axel, Gerald, Marina, Vinz Excused: Simon == References to non-public SUSE tools == * Recently Jira and Confluence, for example. * Gerald points out some of those went from being "unknown unknowns" to "known unknowns", so while there's work to do, things are moving towards more transparancy. * AI Gerald to relay to "Close the Leap Gap" meeting on Fridays * status quo is understood, but what's the roadmap? * what workarounds can be put in place? * On a related note Marina is now attending the openSUSE release engineering meetings somewhat regularly. == Foundation == * Vinz prepared a Wiki portal based on original presentation by Axel and input by others. * Mail has gone out on August 7th. * https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-08/msg00070.html * Not a lot of reactions, aka mostly silence * Hopefully more due to vacation period than lack of interest? * AI Vinz to follow up on project@ == SUSE Keynote at openSUSE conference == * Doug and Marina discussed, the two of them and Gerald brainstorming and checking out options. == meet2.opensuse.org == * We tried it this meeing, and it worked like a charm. * Big thanks to Marco and the Azubis! Next call: same slot in two weeks = September 1st, 8:00 CEST -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] meet2.opensuse.org testing phase

by lethliel

Hi, Today I am able to introduce you: https://meet2.opensuse.org which is a bare metal machine with 24 CPUs and 128 GB RAM. It is installed based on the packages provided by the trainees. Our trainees from SUSE are working hard on packaging jitsi for the (open)SUSE distributions and providing a new jitsi instance to the openSUSE community. They made an awesome progress! meet2 will be in testing phase starting Monday until 24.08.2020. If there are no problems we will switch the active service to the new instance (meet2 -> meet). Keep in mind that meet2 is also based on voluntary work. So please use meet2.opensuse.org for your community meetings and report problems to admin(a)opensuse.org The only known issue is the bandwidth which is currently limited to 1 GBit. But this will be solved when the server gets a new 10 Gbit NIC. I would like to thank Dominik Gedon, Enno Gotthold, Leon Schröder, Martin Rey and Quang Tran for their work and dedication with this project. Happy testing and a good and healthy time to all of you. Cheers, Lethliel (Marco) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Hacktoberfest 2020

by Natnael Getahun

Hi community, Hacktoberfest is coming up. If you're not familiar with it, it is an event that encourages people to make their first contributions to open source projects. It's for developers, designers who make artwork and people can contribute in the form of documentation as well. Community members can are encouraged to help new contributors by guiding them through their first contribution, creating educational content, doing a meetups, etc. I would like to help coordinate the efforts for openSUSE’s presence during Hacktoberfest and need some help from the community members. Is anyone willing to help guide/plan or bring in new members to the various openSUSE-related projects? We can do a meeting or focus on marketing or something? Here is some info about it https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com. Best Regards, Natnael Getahun Full-stack developer -- SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Mail server migration August 10

by Per Jessen

Dear all, next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers (mx[12].suse.de] and on to our two new mail servers "mx1.opensuse.org" and "mx2.opensuse.org", which I finished setting up beginning of July. Primary services affected are: - mailing lists - member aliases forwarding Apart from a minimal interruption at the time of switch-over, neither service should really see much effect of the migration, but you never know. The new setup includes spam- and virus filtering, selective greylisting, inbound and outbound TLS support, and an SRS daemon. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to write to me or to the Heroes list. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Election Campaign Page

by Pierre Böckmann

Dear All, with a bit of delay I set up a campaign page now at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ad_hoc_Board_election_2020_platform_crowby… If you have questions, feel free to reach out and ask! Kind regards Pierre Böckmann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Ballot is open

by Ish Sookun

Dear community members, The ballot for the openSUSE Ad-hoc Board Election is open. Your voting credential has been sent to the email address which you registered as your member email alias target. If you did not receive it please contact us on election-officials(a)opensuse.org. This election is being carried to fill one vacant seat on the openSUSE Board. There are two candidates in the election and members are invited to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice. Blank votes are also allowed. Details about the election are published here https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Regards, Ish Sookun // On behalf of the Election Officials. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Ad-hoc openSUSE Board Election 2020 - Election (voting) phase

by Ariez Vachha - openSUSE

Dear community members, Today marks the start of the election (voting) phase of our **Ad-hoc openSUSE Board Election 2020.** as announced here earlier today by Ish Sookun. You should all have received your voting email by now if you have not and are a qualified member then please contact the election officials by emailing election-officials(a)opensuse.org The elections officials have seen traffic on some of the other chat groups, of members still asking why they have received an election email, as they were unaware are of it occurring. Full details can be found at: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election You can vote up until 30th August 2020. The final results will be announced and the final results will be announced on 31st August 2020. -- Best Regards, Ariez Vachha ajv(a)opensuse.org On behalf of the Election Officials. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 1 week

[opensuse-project] Too many open bugs (Leap 15.2 retro)

by Lubos Kocman

Hello openSUSE! one of the items raised on the retrospective* was a large number of open bugs, not just for openSUSE Leap 15.2 but for openSUSE Distribution in general. Tracked as https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70000 . I already had a discussion with Oliver and Antonis on this topic on the Quality Assurance event that took place last Friday in Schweig. I'd like to share with you the idea of a regular "Bug smashing" meetings. (I'd call those "Bug triaging", those meeting will not get bug fixed but just allow to triage them properly, if I understand correctly) These https://meet.opensuse.org meetings would focus on outstanding bugs and respective "problematic components" (e.g. Other or Base system). We'd focus on one Bugzilla component at a time and would go through the results of pre-agreed queries. It could be multiple short (20 mins) sessions per week E.g. "Base system" Bug smashing etc. I don't mind low attendance but having an option to join and raise particular issue is very important to me. Keep in mind that the openSUSE Release Team is supposed to do this "overseeing" anyway. But I think we can be a bit more transparent about it. The idea is that I'd share screen go through the list of bugs, find an agreement on the next steps, and then the person sharing the screen (typically Release Team member) would write an update to the bug. This would then be followed by sending a notification to the bug owner or finding a new bug owner in case of no response. The public and virtual nature of sessions would enable people to join and raise attention to the bug that might be not getting enough attention. The goal should be on processing bugs in a way that we're able to achieve a decent response time and not cause a potential decrease in quality or close bugs that might potentially lead to a data loss. We're not doing this for the sake of better-looking statistics, but to have a more stable distribution. The pre-requisite for this is an agreed policy about how to tackle bugs properly. So we're helping instead of causing harm. The policy should provide answers to the following questions: What is expected to be tracked in Bugzilla and where to track other requests. E.g. the Documentation component is a bit controversial as it contains various types of requests. Criteria for keeping bugs open or closing them. (aka cleanup that helps). E.g. the definition of CLOSED/Insufficient data, do not close issues that lead to data loss. Agreement about setting the priority on issues, who is expected to do so, and what it means to the bug owner be it SUSE Employee or not. There are two ways how to see priority. How much of an issue is it for Given release (e.g. release can't be shipped with open P1 or P0) and how big of a priority is it to the bug owner. We need to find an agreement. Agreement about ownership of bugs. How does the screening team fit in and so on ... Agreement how to track 'seen' bugs P5 vs Confirmed etc. Agreement on who handles regular processing of bugs for what product(s) and what releases/versions. The last one is important as there seems to be a big difference in overseeing issues for the current release and releases in the maintenance phase. Who should oversee maintenance updates is still an open topic at least for SLE. I'd like to find an agreement with the openSUSE Maintenance team and join forces to be more efficient at pre- agreed bug processing. **Let's use https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-bug-smashing-ideas-20200… for a brainstorm and revisit document on next the next Release Engineering meeting* on the Wednesday 19th Aug**. More info and meeting details are in the brainstorm document. [0] https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.2/Retrospective Best regards openSUSE Release team

5 months, 2 weeks

Re: [opensuse-project] Election Campaign Page

by Richard Brown

On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 18:31 +0200, Pierre Böckmann wrote: > On Tuesday, 11 August 2020 16:09:01 CEST you wrote: > > Hi Pierre, Thanks for your responses, I have some followup > > questions. > > > > On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:47 +0200, Pierre Böckmann wrote: > > > > I'm dissapointed to find that your platform seems to be > > > > entirely > > > > based > > > > on effectively re-hashing the failed no-confidence vote. My > > > > views > > > > on > > > > that matter are not only well documented, but the vote failed, > > > > so > > > > it > > > > seems a peculiar decision to run primarily on the same topic. > > > > > > I am disappointed, too, that you pick a single point and pretend > > > this > > > would be > > > all I base my campaign on - though that is absolutely untrue. > > > > Skipping over responding to this train of thought in the name of > > compromise, collaboration, and wishing to avoid being baited into > > conflict. > > First accusing me of primarily running on the topic of a failed vote, > now > accusing me of trying to bait you into conflict... > Nothing of that's true or going to happen, I was only answering your > mail > without any bad intention and without any ulterior motives. Reading > those into > my response is not OK but at the same time it's ultimately telling > more about > your motives than mine. > Let's leave it at that. I find it very interesting you took my observations as 'accusations'. After all, I feel my observations are easily justifiable. In your platform, the "Why you shoud vote for me.." section ONLY states the No-Confidence Vote. There is no mention of the Foundation in that section at all. The "Current Issues" section dedicates a large paragraph to the No- Confidence Vote. That paragraph calls the work of your potential teammates 'unncessary' and 'disgraceful'. In the same section you only provide a single sentance to the foundation. There are no details as how you'd support the topic or what you'd expect the foundation to look like. And of your goals 3 of them are clearly related to your no-confidence motion, 1 is related to the foundation, and 1 is somewhat more generic. Considering the above, I think it's very easy for any reasnoble reader to feel that your primary motivation for running is to re-hash the no- confidence vote and there is a significant lack of substance beyond that. If the perception I got from that is incorrect, fine, then my first reply was a clear opportunity to clear up that misperception on my part. I find it exceptionally telling that, once realising that we had a difference in opinion regarding the content of your platform, that the discussion has evolved the way it has. I would have hoped a Board member would have taken the opportunity to look inward, and ask themselves how a voting Member like myself got such an impression. You have instead taken the route you have, even going so far to use rhetorical deflections to suggest that my words are more telling about my motives than yours. I think it's important for you to realise, my motives don't matter. I'm not the one running for the Board, I'm just a voter like several hundred others who's support you will need. You are the one running for the Board, and I suspect this thread has done a good job of showing what sort of Board member you could be. I'd like to thank you for all the responses in this thread. I have found it very insightful and helpful in deciding where my vote will go. Regards, -- Richard Brown Linux Distribution Engineer - Future Technology Team Phone +4991174053-361 SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 2 weeks

[opensuse-project] Election campaign page

by Ish Sookun

Dear all, Pierre has set up his election campaign page at https://en.opensuse.org/ openSUSE:Ad_hoc_Board_election_2020_platform_crowbyte. Feel free to read and ask him questions. Let's keep the election debates on! Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

5 months, 2 weeks

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