10 Jun
2016
10 Jun
'16
02:09
At the moment, it seems that a large portion of the projects listed on
the openSUSE derivatives page (https://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives)
have been abandoned or out of date, which couldn't possibly give a
good impression of the distro to prospective users. What should be
done about these pages?
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10 Jun
10 Jun
06:13
On 06/10/2016 11:39 AM, Karl Cheng wrote:
At the moment, it seems that a large portion of the
projects listed on
the openSUSE derivatives page (https://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives)
have been abandoned or out of date, which couldn't possibly give a
good impression of the distro to prospective users. What should be
done about these pages?
As its a wiki anyone can register and provide updates fixes etc.
Unfortunately large parts of the wiki are atleast somewhat out of date.
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07:38
On 10 June 2016 at 04:09, Karl Cheng <qantas94heavy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What should be done about these pages?
they should be updated by people who have an opinion of how it should
look.. thank you for volunteering, I look forward to seeing the page
get a little refreshed :)
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14 Jun
14 Jun
19:07
Hi,
yesterday I updated the Derivatives pages with a shorter (and less
confusing IMHO) description for openSUSE Edu Li-f-E. Since i was doing
that while updating the Italian translation, i accidentally pasted a
translated string and saved the English page (the description of
openSUSE Medical [0]). Now i would like to undo that edit, but the
Wiki gives me the following message:
"
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by
another user, who was blocked by Abuse filter. The reason given is:
Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Norton 123".
The reason given for Norton 123's block is "Automatically blocked by
abuse filter. Description of matched rule: phone number spam (in title
/ copy)"
Start of block: 14:23, 14 June 2016
Expiry of block: 14:23, 15 June 2016
Intended blockee: 137.65.227.73
You may contact Abuse filter or one of the other administrators to
discuss the block.
Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you
have a valid email address registered in your user preferences and you
have not been blocked from using it.
Your current IP address is 137.65.227.73, and the block ID is #386.
Please include all above details in any queries you make.
"
Since my IP address is different from the one provided in that
message, why the Abuse Filter is blocking me?
Thanks in advance,
Bye
hawake
[0] https://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives#Medical
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21:34
Hello,
Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2016, 21:07:24 CEST schrieb G G:
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the
following
reason:
Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by
another user, who was blocked by Abuse filter. The reason given is:
Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Norton
123".
The reason given for Norton 123's block is "Automatically blocked by
abuse filter. Description of matched rule: phone number spam (in title
/ copy)"
Start of block: 14:23, 14 June 2016
Expiry of block: 14:23, 15 June 2016
Intended blockee: 137.65.227.73
Since my IP address is different from the one provided
in that
message, why the Abuse Filter is blocking me?
137.65.227.73 is the IP of one of the authentification proxies (all
requests to the wiki go through one of them).
It looks like AbuseFilter does IP blocking :-/ (besides user blocking) -
and with the current config, it blocks the auth proxy IPs (instead of the
real IP [1]) and therefore also blocks valid edits :-(
I just disabled the "block user and/or IP" option in AbuseFilter
(hopefully this doesn't result in too much spam) and removed the IP
blocks so that you can edit the wiki again.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] There is a MediaWiki setting for proxy handling [2] so that the
original IPs are honored, but obviously nobody did set that for the
openSUSEwiki, and the server admins in Provo are less responsive
than I'd hope :-/
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSquidServers
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15 Jun
15 Jun
20:22
Hi,
I just disabled the "block user and/or IP"
option in AbuseFilter
(hopefully this doesn't result in too much spam) and removed the IP
blocks so that you can edit the wiki again.
Could it be useful to disable auto-promotion to editors of new users
who make many changes?
Thank you Christian. And thank you to the user Qantas94heavy who
corrected the typo.
Bye
hawake
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21:53
Hello,
Am Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2016, 22:22:30 CEST schrieb G G:
I doubt ;-) and besides that, the integration with Access Manager makes
things even more interesting. I don't know the details, all I know is
that we have a ~300 lines extension that does the integration between
Access Manager and Mediawiki (including user creation etc.).
Without understanding how this integration works exactly, it's probably
better not to play funny games with user permissions.
The real fix is to tell the wiki about the proxy IPs so that it can see
the "real" IPs of the users and spammers [1]. Once we have that, I can
re-enable user and IP blocking without the overblocking you noticed.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] See footnote in my mail yesterday ;-)
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I just
disabled the "block user and/or IP" option in AbuseFilter
(hopefully this doesn't result in too much spam) and removed the IP
blocks so that you can edit the wiki again.
Could it be useful to disable auto-promotion to editors of new users
who make many changes?
16 Jun
16 Jun
19:53
Got it. (Yes, i've read your useful link yesterday).
Thank you for the clarification.
Bye
hawake
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