June 2015 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Planned downtime 2015-06-09: openSUSE Mailing Lists
by Theo Chatzimichos 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

On Tuesday 2015-06-09, from 09:00 to 11:00 UTC, the machine that hosts the openSUSE Mailing Lists http://lists.opensuse.org will be offline. During that time, sending or receiving mails to the openSUSE mailing lists, or viewing their archives will not be possible. All the mails that will be sent during the downtime will be delayed. The reason is that the old machine is on an old distribution, and running out of resources. We will migrate the service to a new virtual machine, that will integrate it to a new configuration management infrastructure. We’ll send a followup announcement with the final status as soon as we finish the migration. On behalf of the openSUSE Administration team -- Theo Chatzimichos <tampakrap(a)opensuse.org> <tchatzimichos(a)suse.com> System Administrator SUSE Operations and Services Team

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE:42 rough estimates?
by Stanislav Baiduzhyi 04 Jun '15

04 Jun '15

Just out of curiosity, are there any (very) rough estimates when to expect next release of openSUSE (SLE-based one)? Plus-minus month or two would be fine. I have a machine waiting for reinstall, and I don't know if to wait for some time and install 42.1, or to install 13.2 for now... -- Regards, Stas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] just a personal note
by jdd 04 Jun '15

04 Jun '15

I just noted that somebody (not me) added me as a member candidate. I myself rejected this proposition, because I'm already a member and I don't want to be twice :-) It's an historical problem. 10 years ago, when I was writing for the openSUSE fr wiki, I created two Novel accounts (jdd and jdd_sysop) to have a twin view of the wiki: as admin and as user, but this is the same people. And I become member as jdd_sysop (I don't remember why) this is quoted on my two wiki personal pages :-) so thanks a lot for the one that proposed me, but it's not usefull :-)) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Members retirement
by Michal Hrusecky 04 Jun '15

04 Jun '15

Hi, sent this on Monday, but seems like it never arrived :-( As discussion on similar topic is still ongoing, resending. > Hi everybody, > > as you all know, we have a group of contributors that are eligible to > participate in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks - yes I'm > talking about openSUSE Members. We have now about 600 of them, but as you can > see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of them voted. > > This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in > elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is > somewhere in middle. But it would be nice to know. At some point we might need > to take some project wide decisions and it would be great to know at that point > how many of the still active members voted. > > We discussed this topic at not so recent openSUSE Board Face to Face meeting > and touched it on oSC 15 during project meeting. Also taking under > consideration the responses that were provided to a similar topic approximately > 2 years ago, we (in the board) think it would be a good idea to > implement something to help with that. Automatically monitor openSUSE > Members activity on mailing lists, OBS, bugzilla, maybe more. Remember > when we last saw openSUSE Member on any of those channels and if he > doesn't show for for example one year, we can send him e-mail asking > whether he still wants to be a member with a link to click to create > artificial activity for the automat. And if he doesn't click on it in > let's say month, we will retire him - he will be moved to openSUSE > retired geekos group. If he comes back and want to be member again or if > he was retired by accident, he can be made member again by just clicking > on the link from the mail or by asking membership committee and they > will approve him without any additional questions. > > What do you think? As it will affect whole project some feedback would be > appreciated. If it goes well, I would put it for project wide vote to let the > project members decide. > > To answer some of the obvious questions: > > Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway and measure their activity? > > A: No, it's too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that we cannot > measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator that those > people are no longer interested, but they might be just working on project > aspects we cannot measure. > > Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of > not being interested? > > A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (1 year) and if we monitor even > mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere... > > Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member? > > A: Kind of yes. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever. Now > it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big change, but still > a little difference. > > Q: What if mail with warning gets lost? > > A: If you loose your membership by accident by loosing an e-mail, you can still > contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated > immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix > your e-mail in connect in that case ;-) > > [1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/RBrownSUSE/46342/opensuse-board-… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] oSC looking past 2016
by Amey Abhyankar 04 Jun '15

04 Jun '15

On 3 June 2015 at 22:03, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei(a)suse.com> wrote: > Hi, > > - - How can we come up with a model that provides a more sustainable > organizational effort? i) The place - I am attending oSC since 2012. Looking at the trend,oSC12 probably had highest number of attendees. But yes we co hosted oSC12 like this year. Number matters! I am still giving maximum ++ to oSC12 because the location. I believe It was easy to access to most attendees being a capital city & relatively big city compare to host cities for oSC13,14 & 15 respectively. It is obvious that, bigger cities [population wise] always has large audience & contributors in general. During oSC12 I met several openSUSE contributors who traveled thousands of miles to attend oSC12 from outside & within Europe. Same experience continued for oSC13. ii) Technical/Audio~Video setup - Places like Universities already has 50~60% technical setup ready & we don't have to spend that much time & energy on setting things up. I was lucky enough to attend 'Video streaming and recording via Open-source software' session by Martin Caj & continued by Juergen Weigert to get detailed information. > > - - What would it take to raise oSC attendance closer to the top of your > list, given the other reasons listed above plus your own are still > present? i) Length of conference - Yes we talk/complain about less audience on 4th i.e. last day of the conference. :-) feasibility check = Shall we go with/try out 2 or 3 days conference structure instead of 4 day structure? I am comparing openSUSE Asia 2 day summit last year + count of attendees against recent oSC's. Regards, Amey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 15:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=27&month=5&year=2015&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] ActiveDoc?
by Greg Freemyer 01 Jun '15

01 Jun '15

I happened to be looking thru activedoc today: https://activedoc.opensuse.org If you login (with your opensuse creds) and look at recent edits, its a pretty active site but 50% or more of the recent changes are new pages unrelated to opensuse. I thought of deleting some of them but I didn't find a delete option. Is there one? Ignoring that, my real issue is that the latest content seems to be for openSUSE 12.3. Is there an equivalent document set for 13.1 and 13.2? Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer www.IntelligentAvatar.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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