22 Jun
2015
22 Jun
'15
12:10 a.m.
During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE
LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and
"SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically
said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion
of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream
of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard,
for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was
releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
_and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully
communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the
phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other
sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included)
implementation.
1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html
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22 Jun
6:31 a.m.
PatrickD Garvey - 15:10 21.06.15 wrote:
During the various discussions about some source code
provided by SUSE
LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and
"SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically
said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion
of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream
of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard,
for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was
releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
_and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully
communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the
phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other
sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included)
implementation.
SLE is used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based
upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another
word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations
are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome
only.
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6:33 a.m.
Michal Hrusecky - 6:31 22.06.15 wrote:
PatrickD Garvey - 15:10 21.06.15 wrote:
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and
everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
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During the various discussions about some source
code provided by SUSE
LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and
"SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically
said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion
of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream
of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard,
for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was
releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
_and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully
communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the
phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other
sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included)
implementation.
SLE is used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based
upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another
word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations
are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome
only. 
10:58 a.m.
New subject: Aw: Re: [opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2015 um 06:33 Uhr
Von: "Michal Hrusecky" <Michal.Hrusecky(a)opensuse.org>
An: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org
Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
[...]
SLE is used to
refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based
upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another
word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations
are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome
only.
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and
everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-) 
11:02 a.m.
On 22 June 2015 at 10:58, Axel Braun <Axel.Braun(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Um, you can already build SLE 12 appliances in SUSE Studio
And I would expect you to be able to build openSUSE 42 ones once, you
know, we actually build it ;)
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Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and
everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ...
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11:45 a.m.
Am Montag, 22. Juni 2015, 11:02:44 schrieb Richard Brown:
On 22 June 2015 at 10:58, Axel Braun
<Axel.Braun(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Um, you can already build SLE 12 appliances in SUSE Studio
And I would expect you to be able to build openSUSE 42 ones once, you
know, we actually build it ;)
Sure I can - but anyone using the appliance, and just wants to add a single
package, requires to clone and rebuild the appliance, instead of just issue a
'zypper in <package>'.
I'm actually building on Studio to give less experienced users a smooth start,
and not to make things more complicated...but that is in fact what happens
with SLE-builds at the moment.
A repo that contains just the packages that are available on Studio would be
highly appreaciated.
Cheers
Axel
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Hmm,
checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and
everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ... 
5:22 p.m.
New subject: Aw: Re: [opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 10:58 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ...
What should be in the download directory? The announcement mentioned
making source code available.
-Scott
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2015 um 06:33 Uhr
Von: "Michal Hrusecky" <Michal.Hrusecky(a)opensuse.org>
An: opensuse-project(a)opensuse.org
Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
[...]
SLE is
used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are
based
upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also
another
word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So
speculations
are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look
yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses
Gnome
only.
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE
and
everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
9:14 a.m.
On 22 June 2015 at 00:10, PatrickD Garvey <patrickdgarveyt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
During the various discussions about some source code
provided by SUSE
LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and
"SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically
said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion
of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream
of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard,
for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was
releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
_and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully
communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the
phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other
sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included)
implementation.
1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html
You're absolutely correct, I chose my words carefully :)
SUSE are providing openSUSE with SLE sources, which includes sources
for open source packages which are contained in the SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server _and_ Desktop Products.
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4:06 p.m.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Richard Brown <RBrownCCB(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
On 22 June 2015 at 00:10, PatrickD Garvey
<patrickdgarveyt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Richard, for the confirmation.
So, folks, can we now use the precision that the English language
allows? "SLE sources" are available. Use them as appropriate.
Thank you,
PatrickD
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During the various discussions about some source
code provided by SUSE
LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and
"SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically
said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion
of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream
of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard,
for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was
releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
_and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully
communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the
phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other
sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included)
implementation.
1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html
You're absolutely correct, I chose my words carefully :)
SUSE are providing openSUSE with SLE sources, which includes sources
for open source packages which are contained in the SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server _and_ Desktop Products.
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